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Crosspeice posted:Frankly you should just show off every Delta in some way, even if they're like 20 levels below the trainers and faint immediately. Hey, just so you're aware, this will not realistically happen. There are a total of 199 separate species of Delta pokemon. It's like asking someone to raise and show off every pokemon between Bulbasaur and Slowking in the national dex. Otherwise I have the following requests from y'all quote:Gastrodon
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Miss posted:what about this blighter? 
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Yeah, I have been surprised by how many Deltas are in the game, it's a real shame a good chunk are postgame. You've done a great job showing some of them off! Use your favourite Delta. I think mine is Tentacool, since it's such a good concept.
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I spoiled myself a bit and looked at the deltas on the Insurgence wiki, so I'm gonna ask you to do Delta Maractus because holy loving poo poo it's perfect.
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I also vote for Delta Kabutops.
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 This perfectly captures Delta Shuckle's attitude.Miss posted:what about this blighter? This is wonderful, too!
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Kitfox88 posted:I spoiled myself a bit and looked at the deltas on the Insurgence wiki, so I'm gonna ask you to do Delta Maractus because holy loving poo poo it's perfect. I want to change my vote to this.
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DoubleNegative posted:presented without comment *Looks at defensive stats*  Something tells me it doesn't get a huge amount of use out of Sturdy.
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 Hello everyone and welcome back. I just spent the better part of 8 hours recording this, and 75% of that footage is being thrown straight away because it's irrelevant.   First up, Generator is moved into the Hall of Heroes to join 24 others.  Demyx, the Wizard Ludicolo is back. You all asked if TMs could make him usable.  In short, yeah. TMs can fix a lot of his problems.  I took him up from 50 to 90 and he's merely alright. But everything he does, Cirno can do much better.  I seem to remember saying that Delta Mawile isn't very good, but for some reason you all wanted to see me use him. So, sure, whatever.  Here's the thing... by level 62, it's pretty drat apparent that it's just not good. Regular Mawile is barely good, and was largely only saved from obscurity by dint of its Mega Evolution giving it Huge Power. Delta Mawile doesn't get that safety net.  So I'm gonna give TuxedoMask his new home in the BestPalsClub.  Never used a Shellos or Gastrodon before.     MaryShelos seems pretty usable.  I took her up to 48, and she wouldn't be too bad to use in a normal pokemon game.  Please don't misunderstand, I don't hate her. I just don't see her having a place on the team in the postgame.  Giratina is standing too close.   If we give him a crystal piece to hold, he will become his primal form in battle.  Actually not all that impressed with his stats.  It's gonna be a bit one-sided, but we can use the DexNav to fight a bunch of trainers with level 50 pokemon.   Giratina automatically primal evolves. Regular Giratina has a BST of 680. It's extremely high, but most of his stats are balanced. Primal Giratina has a BST of 820.     Its ability also becomes Omnitype, which... uh... https://wiki.p-insurgence.com/Omnitype_(Ability) It's just easier to link it than try to explain it. It hurts my head just trying to think about it.  So we'll just cut to the chase and drop PokeSatan back in his box where he belongs.   The next request takes us over to Route 14, just outside of Oranos Town.  While searching for the grotto on the route, I find this peeking out from behind some trees.  Ah, bingo.  Double bingo!    We'll need this young lady's services.   Hahahahaha. Yes!  It's like Artix never left the party!   Jumping ahead 45 minutes... Baggy here is something of a gimmick pokemon. She has the highest defense stat I've ever seen, and Bulk Up only makes it grow larger. But then once she's sufficiently swole, she plays a neat little Power Trick and suddenly that 521 Defense is 521 Attack. If she, somehow, could get off 6 Bulk Ups, she could have 2,084 effective attack! Of course, then she'd also have the defenses of wet paper mache and a stiff breeze could take her out. v  v Realistically, she's too much of a glass cannon to be effective. But in a theoretical punching bag scenario, she could deal some frankly shocking amounts of damage.Anyway, I know I said I was probably done with the team overviews, but given that we're replacing four members I think one is called for here.   Blaze is a Delta Greninja, and he's there pretty much because I had an open 6th slot and wanted to fill it with something.   Virulence, a Delta Camerupt, can learn a pretty impressive number of moves. Poison Gas doesn't have perfect accuracy, but it's fine. It hits 9 times out of 10, which is close enough for government work.   I had a devil of a time pinning down a move list for Anubis here. Stone Fist, which used to be a mainstay of Centaurion's attack list, makes a welcome return.   Ramses has pre-nerf Gale Wings, and 110 power Acrobatics. He does learn Brave Bird by level up, so I could just as easily swap one for the other, and then give him a held item. While Psychic might look odd on his otherwise physical move set, don't forget that he has 309 SpAtk!  Cirno also makes an appearance here, because she's traded Psychic for Thunderbolt.  Now that we've caught up, let's cover some new ground. Holon Lake is up this waterfall, so let's try out our new magic carpet, yeah?  I couldn't decide on which reference to make, so... ¿Porque no los dos?   Holon Lake is huge. It's 140x120 blocks. It's also, I would say, particularly obnoxious. Now don't misunderstand me, all of the Holon Region has an encounter rate that could best be described as "way too loving high" but the lake is one of two places in the region where there is no reprieve from it. If you're surfing on the lake's surface, literally 90% of the encounters are against Tentacruel, with the remaining 10% being Starmie. Now look again at the size of the lake and despair. If your lead pokemon is slower than either, you're not gonna be able to escape the battles without taking some amount of damage as payment. And if you choose to fight? Well, there are enough of both that you'll run out of PP for your attacking moves. There is no winning here short of bathing in Max Repels.  project.   The strawman trainer is describing a very real and very serious problem. Someone definitely was writing what they knew.  saltwater lake.   I just can't figure out why they disappeared- they had all these cool Delta Pokemon!     There's a whole cave system down there.   Who the hell had this dialogue originally and why are so many trainers copying it? While wandering around, we get a notice.  Sorry, it's just a rock.  Anyway, before we go down to investigate that noise, we need to go over here first. Trying to be as efficient as possible, you see.  This is in the far upper right of the map. When we approach the turtle...   It runs away.  While chasing it down, this jerkbag hails us for a battle.    Just south of that guy is the turtle again.  And like before, it runs off.    This time it's under the water.  Was. Was under the water.  Another person wants to battle with us. This guy is in the south of the map.    Who's more pathetic, the little girl, or the guy who lost to her?  This island is just north of where we entered the map.  This is getting really old.  This is in the southeast corner of the map.  We're actually not chasing the turtle this time. We're going after a different delta. One that won't run away.                Delta Snivy and Delta Servine are Water type. Delta Serperior is Water/Dragon. All three have Multiscale (Reduces damage the Pokemon takes when its HP is full) as their regular ability. Snivy and Servine both have Hydration (Hidden; Heals status conditions if it's raining) as their hidden ability, while Serperior has Drizzle (Hidden; The Pokemon makes it rain when it enters a battle) for its. Here's where we run into a problem. Serperior is an alright tank, but it's not particularly great either. At best it's alright defensively. Most of what it learns is special attacks, and both its attacking stats are 75 base. To put it bluntly, it's mediocre at best.  No I will not raise one to show it off.  Gotta love the bad transliteration of "leviathan" used for Illusion of Gaia/Illusion of Time's English localization.  Anyway, our slippery turtle has fled underwater once again.  There's a cave hidden under the northern shore.  Once we surface, a cutscene takes over.  Can't see poo poo, captain.  The game will assume we were able to see what was happening, so lemme fill you in.   These two were fighting each other.  And then they ran off.  This is the Holon Undercave. There's several Deltas to find down here, so let's not waste any time.                     Delta Dratini's line is Electric/Water type. All three have Swift Swim (Boosts the Pokemon's Speed stat in rain) and Volt Absorb (Hidden; Restores HP if hit by an Electric-type move) as abilities. It's only got two weaknesses. It's a pseudolegendary that resists 5 types. It has 134 base attack. It's good!   Close enough.  And behind Yu'lon is this!     Did I cover Mega Politoed before? I swear I did. Well, whatever. When in mega form, it has 600BST, with 140 base SpDef and 120 base SpAtk. It's just Politoed, But Better. Also it has Drizzle.  Anyway, onto the next delta.    This has officially Gotten Old.  Over against the far wall of the Undercave is a small dive spot.  Going in the door in the previous shot was actually a trap, because the dive spot is the only way to get up here.              Delta Mabgy and Delta Magmar are both water type. Delta Magmortar is Water/Steel type. Magby and Magmar both have Swift Swim and Rain Dish (Hidden; The Pokemon gradually regains HP in rain) for abilities. Magmortar has Mega Launcher (Powers up aura and pulse moves) and Filter (Hidden; Reduces damage from supereffective attacks). It's pretty good! The Mega Launcher ability makes it an absolute beast damage-wise. Plus its typing renders it resistant to ten different types of damage, and fully immune to an 11th.   Not gonna lie, ScubaSteve is on my shortlist for a team slot.  What a strange spot to find something like this.  We're nearly done. Just gotta chase down that turtle.    Finally, the sixth loving time we encountered it, we can fight Delta Turtwig.             Delta Turtwig's line is Water/Ground type. All three have Water Absorb (Restores HP if hit by a Water-type move) and Swift Swim (Hidden) as abilities. It learns a large number of special moves, but TMs can fix that right up. If you can hold out on evolving Turtwig until 37, it can learn Waterfall. Gonna be honest, there are better part-ground types out there, but it's still a solid pokemon.   In case you don't get it.    Hey! Amy! It's me! Professor Maple!Down, tiger, down! Listen, I've got some interesting news for you. But first, any luck with finding those fighting pokemon? Remember? Like the ones we saw in the desert? You saw... Regice fighting with a similar-looking pokemon... except it was made of water? The Delta won, naturally? Of course, it must have. Deltas are so much stronger! Ah, they didn't finish. I'm sure the Delta would have won in the end, though. They're the future of pokemon! They can't lose.  ...but as I was saying, this makes it very likely that Regirock was involved in the fight in the desert. If Delta Regice was really fighting its inferior form... perhaps a similar confrontation took place. We'd like your assistance. It's very possible that Registeel is going to confront its Delta form, too! Maybe we can trap it? Study it? Definitely do nothing malicious with it? Please come north. I'm waiting in Settlement Juliet. That's the settlement right up the mountain. 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There's something refreshing about getting mission control from someone who is very obviously the final boss of this whole area.
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What are you talking about, Prof Maple is just very enthusiastic about Deltas just like we are. He'd never stab us in the back!
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Sordas Volantyr posted:There's something refreshing about getting mission control from someone who is very obviously the final boss of this whole area. Maple seem to have wandered in from a MGS Pokemon romhack
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DoubleNegative posted:
...Source? Delta Regice looks like a Water-type (Regiwater?) which I guess gives it an edge over regular Regice, but every Delta has... the exact same statline as the regular version. Some of them for the better, some of them... for the worse. flat-out. You're a researcher for Deltas. You should know this. Are you really this blinded by cool stuff?! Also decidedly unrelated but I'm putting in a vote for Delta Torterra.
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LiefKatano posted:...Source? Delta Regice looks like a Water-type (Regiwater?) which I guess gives it an edge over regular Regice, but every Delta has... the exact same statline as the regular version. Some of them for the better, some of them... for the worse. flat-out. Of course he is! Didn't you see his manical laughter after saying that he's gonna rule the world with deltas? Just as Otacon was too enraptured by the idea of making his japanese animes come true before realizing he was working on a weapon of war, so too does this guy think deltas are unbeatable forces of nature that he can use to take over the world before Amy sends him to hell with ScubaSteve.
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DoubleNegative posted:
Is there just something screwy with pokemon essentials or is this intentional and if the latter why
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DoubleNegative posted:presented without comment 
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I got to see my pretty Mawile friend, I'm satisfied  Delta Magby is rad AF and I would not be mad to see you use one. Also I got too excited about Delta Regice after seeing ... I think it was in the Megathread, but someone posted fanart of Regis of every type. Looks like we're only getting three, but it's still a really cool concept.
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mycelia posted:I got to see my pretty Mawile friend, I'm satisfied
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Sordas Volantyr posted:There's something refreshing about getting mission control from someone who is very obviously the final boss of this whole area. It's incredibly goofy and, if he accepts his inevitable loss with a rueful grin, will cement him as a very fun and very good character Maybe we can introduce him to Reukra, make sure they stick to research, and everyone that isn't dead can get a happy ending
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DoubleNegative posted:Hey, just so you're aware, this will not realistically happen. There are a total of 199 separate species of Delta pokemon. It's like asking someone to raise and show off every pokemon between Bulbasaur and Slowking in the national dex. I don't think anyone actually asked for Goodra, but I would be happy to see either Sliggoo! Zereth posted:... what would Regifairy look like Like the healing fairies from OoT, only giant, obviously. Also I hope Delta Registeel is a fighting type and comprises one giant balled up fist with tiny little legs and that Regi-face somewhere on it.
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rannum posted:I think Insurgence & Reborn also have entirely too high wild encounter rates Encounter tables are determined entirely by manual entry. Water (and caves) by default has a much lower encounter rate than grass does. You give each one a value out of 180 to calculate the encounter rate. By default, Grass has an encounter rate of 25/180 or ~14% chance at any given step in tall grass. Water (and the inside of caves), meanwhile has a default rate of 10/180 or ~5.5% chance of an encounter while surfing. It's surprisingly easy to mess this up and crank the rate up too high with minimal changes. I don't know about Insurgence specifically on this front, since the data files for that aren't viewable without jumping through extra hoops, but for Reborn you can look through it no problem. So I did, and for every single map they're either the default values or lower, making random encounters happen less often than even in the actual official games (even grass is often reduced to a sub-5% encounter chance). Seems like an odd mercy, but this IS Reborn so reduced encounter rates mean you can travel through areas faster... in return you get even less things and are missing EXP so you gotta grind even more. The giant hellscape desert that OFS just did, for example, has an encounter density of 2 which works out to ~1% chance of a wild Pokemon encounter on any given step. And there's a few fair areas with density set to 1, even. How easy is it to mess up? Well, one game I played somewhat recently set density to 45. Out of 180. So that's a 25% chance of a fight every step. Not thinking it through makes 45 seem not that bad but good Lord is it obnoxious and awful. It's kind of amazing that Amethyst didn't mess that one thing up and instead messed it up in the opposite direction. Lotus Aura fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Mar 16, 2019 |
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LiefKatano posted:...Source? Delta Regice looks like a Water-type (Regiwater?) which I guess gives it an edge over regular Regice, but every Delta has... the exact same statline as the regular version. Some of them for the better, some of them... for the worse. flat-out. Pretty sure he's just supposed to be a crazy idiot. Also Normal Regice learns a fair variety of electric moves, so unless Water Regice learns something super effective against normal regice (... not exactly a stretch, to be fair), Normal Regice probably has the advantage.
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I love the fact that there's an ace trainer with a Metagross named New Meta.
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Dragonatrix posted:Encounter tables are determined entirely by manual entry. Water (and caves) by default has a much lower encounter rate than grass does. You give each one a value out of 180 to calculate the encounter rate. By default, Grass has an encounter rate of 25/180 or ~14% chance at any given step in tall grass. Water (and the inside of caves), meanwhile has a default rate of 10/180 or ~5.5% chance of an encounter while surfing. It's surprisingly easy to mess this up and crank the rate up too high with minimal changes. Huh, go figure!
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Please use that Delta Magmortar, I love its scuba design. It reminds me of the Big Daddies from Bioshock
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Man I'm beyond super bummed so many of these are locked behind postgame, they're all great designs.
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SirSamVimes posted:Use that Torterra
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SirSamVimes posted:Use that Torterra Not emptyquoting. Also I think this video will once again be relevant very soon.
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Mikl posted:Not emptyquoting. ... my god, Insurgence really is a pokemon game
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Does Insurgence not give Toxic perfect accuracy when used by a Poison-type? Cuz if it does, I think that'd be better than Poison Gas.
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serefin99 posted:Does Insurgence not give Toxic perfect accuracy when used by a Poison-type? Cuz if it does, I think that'd be better than Poison Gas. Kinda redundant, given the purpose of Venomous. Of course, so is Venomous, given access to a Toxic TM. Which is probably why it's stuck near the end of the game. What you're actually supposed to do with it is use it with a poison-inflicting damaging move. Probably Sludge Bomb. But that's kind of lame.
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Supremezero posted:Kinda redundant, given the purpose of Venomous. Poison gas isn't 100% accuracy, I think his point is "If you're going for a 'will poison the enemy pokemon' move why not go with the more accurate one."
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Kurieg posted:Poison gas isn't 100% accuracy, I think his point is "If you're going for a 'will poison the enemy pokemon' move why not go with the more accurate one." Yeah, but it'd make Venomous redundant, which would be unfortunate. So the problem is in fact Venomous convincing you to make weird move decisions compared to perfect accuracy 
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I dunno if it's just me, but delta snivy and Delta Dragonite's underbelly is kinda making me think theres a reason game freak doesn't put a lot of detail on things that do or would have scales. Otherwise I do adore the idea. Also I thought power trick didn't apply buffs that were done before using the move. Otherwise, I'm glad you decided to show off delta Camerupt, because it looks like a lot of fun to use.
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Listen I am all about that Delta Magmar line. I wanna see that scuba bastard destroy some poo poo.
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