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Lisa Hanawalt also publishes books with her art style. What a fraud.
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Lurdiak posted:Nobody gives Tim Burton poo poo about all his movies looking exactly the same. I don't know if people give him poo poo but Tim Burton is definitely mocked for having the exact same aesthetic and actors in every movie
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Mar 17, 2019 00:49
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Picasso's got like one thing, he paints faces weird. And he keeps doing it! What a hack
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Son of a Vondruke! posted:Uh... both those shows did do crossovers.  
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I forget what point I was trying to make, but I just remembered that time scooby doo crossed over with twin peaks. Scooby doo should go on bojack.
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Mar 17, 2019 02:21
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Billzasilver posted:I forget what point I was trying to make, but I just remembered that time scooby doo crossed over with twin peaks. Scooby doo should go on bojack.
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Mar 17, 2019 03:12
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Related: They recently released a movie on DVD (and I presume streaming) that wraps up The 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo which never had an actual ending in the 80s. 
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Mar 17, 2019 03:15
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Astroman posted:Related: They recently released a movie on DVD (and I presume streaming) that wraps up The 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo which never had an actual ending in the 80s.
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You people are absolutely ridiculous. I'm not sure why saying it's "a little strange" gets this kind of defense. It is. It's a little strange. If you think that's a completely off-base reaction to the point where you're posting pictures of these one-off crossover episodes, then I honestly have to think you're a little bit stupid, or at least playing stupid to try to score internet points. Like do you really think American Dad and Family Guy share continuity because they crossed over once? Do you honestly not see how that's different from the Cleveland Show and Family Guy? Or Futurama being sufficiently distant in setting from the Simpsons? Or how, if Matt Groening did another show in the year 3000 in the same art style, you'd kinda expect it to be related to Futurama? If you can't, then you're either kind of an idiot or you're playing in bad faith. Saying it's strange is a very mild sentiment. And no, no one's saying it's strange that it has the same art style, because obviously people will continue to draw in their own style. I'm saying it seems strange that it's the same art style AND the same setting. You have to understand that the "AND" is important, because it's two things that are put together. I've been putting "AND" and "ALSO" in all-caps, but no one seems to notice. Hawkgirl posted:But as pointed out several times on this very page, the universe IS different. It’s a lot more Family Guy vs American Dad than Family Guy vs Cleveland Show like you’re pretending. Like this? This is a complete idiot's post. Who has pointed out any reasons the universe is different? So far we haven't seen anything except human-like animals walking around in the modern day. I guess thinking it's strange it's not the same universe makes me biased for some reason? If you're an idiot, sure, that makes plenty of sense.
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There's been several American Dad cameos in Family Guy and vice versa, including Steve's simulation sequence and the end of the hurricane episodes. (along with The Cleveland Show, but obviously that doesn't quite count)Billzasilver posted:I forget what point I was trying to make, but I just remembered that time scooby doo crossed over with twin peaks. Scooby doo should go on bojack. Scooby-Doo has crossed over with everything, it's rad.
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Mar 17, 2019 04:18
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Actually I just fired up a newer American Dad episode, I forgot just how much it looked like Family Guy. I haven't seen this show in years. Well, mark me down for that then too. It's a little strange if they aren't officially a shared universe.
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Mar 17, 2019 04:25
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Phenotype posted:Actually I just fired up a newer American Dad episode, I forgot just how much it looked like Family Guy. I haven't seen this show in years. Well, mark me down for that then too. It's a little strange if they aren't officially a shared universe. The new seasons are good. It's had a remarkable run of good quality.
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Mar 17, 2019 04:30
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PostNouveau posted:The new seasons are good. It's had a remarkable run of good quality. American Dad is a good show, the writers are great at both magic realism and character driven humor.
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Mar 17, 2019 04:44
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It’s scary how good American Dad is. Almost as good as Bob’s Burgers. Which had a crossover with Archer
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Lurdiak posted:Nobody gives Tim Burton poo poo about all his movies looking exactly the same. to be honest though the end of the circus trilogy is apparently really good please go see it (i'm talking about Dumbo and Devito here) Phenotype posted:You people are absolutely ridiculous. I'm not sure why saying it's "a little strange" gets this kind of defense. It is. It's a little strange. You: "This is strange" Everybody: "Nah not really, here's a bunch of different examples showcasing different things dude, it's okay!" You: "Everybody else is idiots" Like there's no reason to be this hostile but here you are.
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Phenotype posted:You people are absolutely ridiculous. I'm not sure why saying it's "a little strange" gets this kind of defense. It is. It's a little strange. If you think that's a completely off-base reaction to the point where you're posting pictures of these one-off crossover episodes, then I honestly have to think you're a little bit stupid, or at least playing stupid to try to score internet points. Like do you really think American Dad and Family Guy share continuity because they crossed over once? Do you honestly not see how that's different from the Cleveland Show and Family Guy? Or Futurama being sufficiently distant in setting from the Simpsons? Or how, if Matt Groening did another show in the year 3000 in the same art style, you'd kinda expect it to be related to Futurama? If you can't, then you're either kind of an idiot or you're playing in bad faith. Saying it's strange is a very mild sentiment. shut the gently caress up lmao
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Mar 17, 2019 05:33
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Asema posted:You: "This is strange" What pisses me off is that I voice what I thought was a pretty innocuous opinion and half a dozen people fall all over themselves to purposely misunderstand me and call me bigoted or whatever. Would you expect a Matt Groening show set in the year 3000 to be related to Futurama? If so, then me saying it's "a little strange" these two shows aren't related is something that you should basically agree with. I'm not saying anything negative, I'm not even voicing a strong opinion. I even said I was looking forward to the new show. Why do you need to try to refute my opinion somehow?
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Mar 17, 2019 05:59
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All I’m saying is if all you were really trying to say is “this is strange” you wouldn’t need the 6 page essay to prove it lmao
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Phenotype posted:Actually I just fired up a newer American Dad episode, I forgot just how much it looked like Family Guy. I haven't seen this show in years. Well, mark me down for that then too. It's a little strange if they aren't officially a shared universe. well, it's not strange at all, really. american dad came into being when family guy was canceled. it's clearly supposed to be a not-family guy show.
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Mar 17, 2019 06:45
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*michael schur writes the same sitcom, repeatedly, for years* "this is good. i like this exploration in this same vein. there are many good ideas to come from this same creative river" *lisa hanawalt gets her own show where she does her thing as a creator instead of an art/creative director* "woah woah woah hold up now, this is derivative"
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Did u kno that Ash Ketchum and Red technically never exist in the same universe? How loving CURAZYYY is that?!
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Mar 17, 2019 08:55
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I’m 11 years old and welcome to my TED Talk
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Mar 17, 2019 08:56
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Billzasilver posted:I’m 11 years old and welcome to my TED Talk
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FactsAreUseless posted:An 11-year-old talking Pokemon theories would be the best TED Talk ever recorded. Comedy bang bang has some podcast episodes that are really really good https://comedybangbang.fandom.com/wiki/Dash_Grabum It has some great lines like “no, I don’t really eat the Pokémon. Canonically, I’ve never eaten anything.” Billzasilver fucked around with this message at 11:14 on Mar 17, 2019 |
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"Some people are saying that this new cartoon looks like Bojack." "Yeah, it does." "Well you realize they're saying that because they are sexist, right? Like there is literally no debate here. Can we all just agree on that?" "No." "OK, well clearly you are sexist. I thought you were, but this is proof!" "No I''m not, and here are a bunch of examples of why I'm not." "Well here are a bunch of examples of why you ARE." etc etc. Nobody is going to change anyone's mind here. Both sides believe they are right and no matter what the other says on the surface, they'll still believe they can read their mind and see the secret true motivations behind their posts. It's really kind of tiring. Of course, by posting this, I'll be accused by both sides of trying to "shut down discussion". Well yeah, I am, because it's annoying. I remember when Futurama came out there were people saying the art style looked like the Simpsons. That Groening was one note. If Futurama had failed and not had it's own distinctive plot, writing style, and following it would have gone down as a footnote in animation history. And when Parks and Rec came out a lot of people (including me) thought it was a rip off of the "documentary series" style of The Office. I would bet that a lot of people who are criticizing the new show are sexist. But a lot probably aren't. If they say they aren't, you can only guess at knowing. You can accuse them all day and be totally sure they are, but you can't prove it. If you think they can, report them to a mod for sexism and let the mod decide. 
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So many straw men in this thread the characters of Hanawalt's new show are afraid to fly near it
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Billzasilver posted:Did u kno that Ash Ketchum and Red technically never exist in the same universe? How loving CURAZYYY is that?! Uh, they did back in Silver where I named my player character "Ash"  checkmate.
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Wait who would this piss off Phenotype posted:You people are absolutely ridiculous. I'm not sure why saying it's "a little strange" gets this kind of defense. It is. It's a little strange. If you think that's a completely off-base reaction to the point where you're posting pictures of these one-off crossover episodes, then I honestly have to think you're a little bit stupid, or at least playing stupid to try to score internet points. Like do you really think American Dad and Family Guy share continuity because they crossed over once? Do you honestly not see how that's different from the Cleveland Show and Family Guy? Or Futurama being sufficiently distant in setting from the Simpsons? Or how, if Matt Groening did another show in the year 3000 in the same art style, you'd kinda expect it to be related to Futurama? If you can't, then you're either kind of an idiot or you're playing in bad faith. Saying it's strange is a very mild sentiment. Oh I guess that answered my question
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Astroman posted:"Some people are saying that this new cartoon looks like Bojack." you know what you call a person who finds discussions about sexist bias annoying? a sexist piece of poo poo lmao burned b*tch
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I'm going to assume they ARE the same universe and there's nothing anyone can do to stop me
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Mar 17, 2019 16:46
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Regy Rusty posted:I'm going to assume they ARE the same universe and there's nothing anyone can do to stop me
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This is a weird discussion to have. I will say that the jump from "it's strange this new show has an identical art style" "no its not strange at all" to "it's strange this new show has an identical art style" "no its not strange at all, and you only think it is because you're sexist" is really bizarre. When I first saw an image of the new show, I thought "oh, what's the deal with this new bojack thing?" And when I saw Lisa say "it's not a bojack thing, it's it's own thing, it just looks the same because I have a consistent art style" I went "huh, OK cool" and that was my shared universe adventure
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ninjewtsu posted:When I first saw an image of the new show, I thought "oh, what's the deal with this new bojack thing?" And when I saw Lisa say "it's not a bojack thing, it's it's own thing, it just looks the same because I have a consistent art style" I went "huh, OK cool" and that was my shared universe adventure Yeah exactly. If you feel the need to end that with anything other than “huh, OK cool” you have weird brain things going on.
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The styles aren’t even as similar as Family Guy and American Dad are. The colors are all flat on this show instead of watercolor textured, and there was a far shot of the town towards the end of the trailer that looks more hyperstylized than Bojack gets. I think it would be more jarring for Bojack to pop up in this show than it would be for Peter to visit Mr. Dad. Shut up now
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some kind of bug posted:The styles aren’t even as similar as Family Guy and American Dad are. The colors are all flat on this show instead of watercolor textured, and there was a far shot of the town towards the end of the trailer that looks more hyperstylized than Bojack gets. I think it would be more jarring for Bojack to pop up in this show than it would be for Peter to visit Mr. Dad. Shut up now I think you mean Stan Smith, who works for Patrick Stewart at the CIA.
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Yeah. Mr. Dad is what Stan Smith calls his gun. And his penis. And his car.
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I kind of get the complaint. It’s not about the art style but rather specifically the fact that they are animal people. This is a big part of the charm and uniqueness of BoJack and one of the things that sets it apart from other adult animated shows. A second show about depressed animal people is more along the lines of Matt Groening making another show about the year 3000 after Futurama than just applying his character style.
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:I kind of get the complaint. It’s not about the art style but rather specifically the fact that they are animal people. This is a big part of the charm and uniqueness of BoJack and one of the things that sets it apart from other adult animated shows. A second show about depressed animal people is more along the lines of Matt Groening making another show about the year 3000 after Futurama than just applying his character style. This might nail it down it removes some of what make BoJack unique. They didn't seem all that depressed though, it felt more like Aggretsuko from the trailer. Just a slice of life story. I don't get why people are so angry about it being this though. I certainly felt it was going to be BoJack related until I finished the trailer, it's a completely different feel. This is fine.
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