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Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Chinston Wurchill posted:

Did anyone else pick up Little Bird last week? It's basically BKV's "We Stand On Guard" but with more of an indigenous bent and a greater focus on religion. I dig Bertram's art so I'll probably stick around for the mini.

Assassin Nation was pretty fun too.

Re: Assassin Nation,
Love Erica Henderson, but I thought this reference onomatopoeia stuff was pretty lame:


I liked the comic, but I hope they don't keep that up.

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Mar 19, 2019

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Chinston Wurchill
Jun 27, 2010

It's not that kind of test.
Yeah that rubbed me the wrong way too.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
enjoyed the first issue of wilson/ward's invisible kingdom. ward's style feels a little different than what he was doing in black bolt but i still dig it

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Scott Snyder/Francesco Francavilla mystery horror (?) project coming. I'm guessing it's not DC.
https://twitter.com/Ssnyder1835/status/1108761399394820096

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Mar 21, 2019

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Here's the alternate cover for the final issue of WicDiv. Almost makes me want to go to a comic store.

https://twitter.com/kierongillen/status/1108851443228966912

Also McFarlane is homaging himself.

Endless Mike fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Mar 21, 2019

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Endless Mike posted:

Here's the alternate cover for the final issue of WicDiv. Almost makes me want to go to a comic store.

Any word yet on when the last TPB will be out? Image tend to be quite prompt, so I'd guess July or August.

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition
Those solicitations include an announcement for a Hit-Girl series written by Daniel Way and I think I nearly swallowed my own tongue.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Jedit posted:

Any word yet on when the last TPB will be out? Image tend to be quite prompt, so I'd guess July or August.

That's probably right. Gillen would probably tell you if you tweet at him.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Little Bird was great.
Between this and House of Penance, Ian Bertram must love drawing entrails.

blast0rama
Aug 13, 2003

Tingly.


Saw that the first trade of Coda is out.

Any good?

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


I've been reading it since it came out. The story is very interesting, but the art is where it really excels. I'd recommend it.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



IUG posted:

I've been reading it since it came out. The story is very interesting, but the art is where it really excels. I'd recommend it.

Yeah I second this. The world-building is fantastic, too.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
https://twitter.com/kierongillen/status/1102624488041123840?s=19

Chinston Wurchill
Jun 27, 2010

It's not that kind of test.
Oh man I don't buy a lot of physical media anymore but this is tempting:

https://twitter.com/orbitalcomics/status/1110572828477325312

Uh, the second one, I don't do a lot of Twitter posting either.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Peter Cannon is so good! I really thought I was done with hearing what anyone else had to professionally say about Watchmen in a comic book but I like this.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


X-O posted:

Peter Cannon is so good! I really thought I was done with hearing what anyone else had to professionally say about Watchmen in a comic book but I like this.

It’s loving insane and I love every bit of it.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

Crossed is not good.

wielder
Feb 16, 2008

"You had best not do that, Avatar!"

Mr Hootington posted:

Crossed is not good.

Quite an understatement.

I will say Simon Spurrier did write some good stuff for that line, namely Wish You Were Here, but most of the other works are either bad or gross. Or both.

Even that book is not for the faint of heart though. Big fans of zombie fiction and slasher movies might have less issues with the subject matter.

wielder fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Mar 28, 2019

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


Mr Hootington posted:

Crossed is not good.

I was into Mercury Heat for a few issues when it was its own thing. Then it became a loving 6 issue (and more?) crossover with Crossed. I had never read anything Crossed before, and I tapped out before that story arch finished. I'm sure that killed anyone's interest in that series in record time.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

wielder posted:

Quite an understatement.

I will say Simon Spurrier did write some good stuff for that line, namely Wish You Were Here, but most of
the other works are either bad or gross. Or both.

Even that book is not for the faint of heart though. Big fans of zombie fiction and slasher movies might have less issues with the subject matter.

The subject matter of Crossed isn't zombie movies, it's rape. Burn it on a fire, and for preference lock up Jacen Burrows because I have some deep suspicions about that man.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

Mr Hootington posted:

Crossed is not good.

wielder posted:

Quite an understatement.

I will say Simon Spurrier did write some good stuff for that line, namely Wish You Were Here, but most of
the other works are either bad or gross. Or both.

Even that book is not for the faint of heart though. Big fans of zombie fiction and slasher movies might have less issues with the subject matter.

Most of Crossed is not good, but Crossed+100 by Alan Moore is one of the best comics I've ever read. Genuinely a stupendous "silk purse from sow's ear" type situation.

Only the first six issues, though. Spurrier follows on from Moore's incredible mini-series with a continuation that's a lot more hackneyed, boring, etc.

Also, Kieron Gillen wrote a really good Crossed story in the anthology book (yes, Crossed is perplexingly popular enough that it had an anthology title that ran for 100 issues). The franchise is mostly horrendous, but there's a surprising amount of talent on display in some of its off-shoots.

wielder
Feb 16, 2008

"You had best not do that, Avatar!"
I haven't read what Alan Moore wrote for it, but I guess that would be expected of him too. You can find some good to great creators in the weirdest places.

Like, say, Jonathan Hickman on God is Dead. That was a thing too.

Jedit posted:

The subject matter of Crossed isn't zombie movies, it's rape. Burn it on a fire, and for preference lock up Jacen Burrows because I have some deep suspicions about that man.

That's also true. I wasn't recalling enough about how far it goes. Probably because I haven't thought of this in what feels like years. Which was for the best.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

Yeah issue 1 has a lot of rape and shout out to the lady who gets ran over and as the tire spins on her when the truck tries getting away says "I'm coming."

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
ennis please go to therapy

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




wielder posted:

I haven't read what Alan Moore wrote for it

It's extremely mediocre.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
Re: Peter cannon I'm glad someone finally read Gwenpool and decided to run with it

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

I've been out of comics for a bit, what happened with Southern Bastards? Is it over at #20 because it doesn't look like there's been anything since, but I haven't been able to find any indication that the story is over.

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib

wielder posted:

I haven't read what Alan Moore wrote for it, but I guess that would be expected of him too. You can find some good to great creators in the weirdest places.

Like, say, Jonathan Hickman on God is Dead. That was a thing too.


That's also true. I wasn't recalling enough about how far it goes. Probably because I haven't thought of this in what feels like years. Which was for the best.

Hickman started God is Dead; there might've been more to it than him just wanting some easy cash. Moore did a story in one of the God is Dead specials, too. That whole book was loving weird and all over the place (and pretty much pornography in various places, which was groan-worthy).

But anyway incongruous Moore involvement has a fine pedigree; he wrote for Youngblood.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

site posted:

ennis please go to therapy

I think writing the kind of stuff he does basically is his therapy. By all accounts he's a reasonably friendly guy and hasn't done anything awful to anyone.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

I think writing the kind of stuff he does basically is his therapy. By all accounts he's a reasonably friendly guy and hasn't done anything awful to anyone.

Ennis has three great loves and two great hates. The former are America, war comics, and tales of sexual misadventure. The latter are superheroes and Irish sectarianism. These things inform all his work. Crossed is the only one where he's really writing out the nasty, though.

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

I think writing the kind of stuff he does basically is his therapy. By all accounts he's a reasonably friendly guy and hasn't done anything awful to anyone.

Horror, suspense, and mystery writers, in my experience, tend to be really nice people in person.

It's similar to how Stephen King, despite his bibilography, is an elderly dork who was in a rock band with Dave Barry and Amy Tan for years. All the darkness goes into the work.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Wanderer posted:

Horror, suspense, and mystery writers, in my experience, tend to be really nice people in person.

It's similar to how Stephen King, despite his bibilography, is an elderly dork who was in a rock band with Dave Barry and Amy Tan for years. All the darkness goes into the work.

Not to take away from that, but wasn’t he on so much coke during the 80s that he, by his own admission, does not even remember writing most of his works during that time?

Though to be fair, everyone was on cocaine those days.

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib
He was a hardcore alcoholic too.

He wrote better when he was downing a quart of whisky a day

Andrigaar
Dec 12, 2003
Saint of Killers
He also could do no wrong in the eyes of publishers/editors, so he's made remarks about pushing the envelope just to see when one of them would flinch.

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition

Unlucky7 posted:

Not to take away from that, but wasn’t he on so much coke during the 80s that he, by his own admission, does not even remember writing most of his works during that time?

On the one hand, pretty much everything he wrote from 1980 through 1987 makes a lot more sense to me now that I know he was doing a lot of coke at the time. It and Tommyknockers in particular are big old cocaine ideas.

On the other, it's not like he got less weird after he sobered up. He just got somewhat more concise.

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Wanderer posted:

On the other, it's not like he got less weird after he sobered up. He just got somewhat more concise.

dude, I can barely make it through summaries of the last few Dark Tower novels without falling asleep

Hobo Grandpa
Aug 22, 2014

"Trigger" is my trigger word.

Gaz-L posted:

BSS as a whole seems to 'ironically' love Scioli's work on those books and I don't get it.

Late chime-in to say I unironically love him too.

I think overall it's rare to get truly top quality writing & art from the same source. Usually one of the two lacks behind the other. In the case of Scioli, I do think his writing is weaker than his art.

I think with this Go Bots title specifically, the observation that it almost appears to be fanfic probably isn't far off. That said, I think that's kinda the appeal. It's not targeting mainstream readers.

The book feels like it could have been something someone was sketching in the back of their highschool notebook. It feels indie as hell. The colored pencil style art really leans into that and is done in raw sort of way that you don't get from Marvel or DC or even really Image titles anymore.

I'm not a Transformers guy, nor did I really know much of anything about Go Bots prior other than it's a weird knock-off but somehow tie-in world. I just love the idea of the tagline for the series about the Asimov code going out the window and robots being able to harm their masters.


Aside from Go Bots, my favorite recent indie read was Magical Beatdown #1 and #2. Sailor Moon if it was done by Quentin Tarantino.

Hobo Grandpa fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Apr 6, 2019

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
Yeah my love for Scioli is entirely his art. His writing does little for me (but his plotting is good because he’s all about bombastic comics and I love that).

I’m a weirdo who also likes Frank Miller’s recent stuff though so who knows. Maybe I just like bad art.

Cassa
Jan 29, 2009
I'll read a hundred books by Scioli over any more by Jim Lee.

His art was perfect for gobots, especially as a counterpoint to IDW's transformers stuff. Sketchy, scratchy and nowhere near the clean and polished look of the competitor.

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Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Hobo Grandpa posted:

Late chime-in to say I unironically love him too.

I think overall it's rare to get truly top quality writing & art from the same source. Usually one of the two lacks behind the other. In the case of Scioli, I do think his writing is weaker than his art.

I think with this Go Bots title specifically, the observation that it almost appears to be fanfic probably isn't far off. That said, I think that's kinda the appeal. It's not targeting mainstream readers.

The book feels like it could have been something someone was sketching in the back of their highschool notebook. It feels indie as hell. The colored pencil style art really leans into that and is done in raw sort of way that you don't get from Marvel or DC or even really Image titles anymore.
I wasn't blown away by Scioli's Super Powers backups in Cave Carson, but I liked American Barbarian a lot for its unhinged Kirby-sequel weirdness, and I loved Transformers vs. GI Joe. It really did feel like a crazy creative 12-year-old's homemade fanfic comics, in the best possible way. I just finally read it all last month, after owning the TPBs for far too long, so it's all still fresh in my head.

I was the biggest Transformers and GI Joe fan, being the perfect age at their '80s peaks. I collected the toys, watched the cartoons, and at one point owned every single issue of both Marvel series, including any related miniseries and tie-in issues. And I loved how Scioli (and co-writer John Barber) threw all those mythologies into a blender, salvaged what worked, and followed their own paths for the rest.

I'm not sure how much credit Barber deserves, since Scioli was definitely the star. I wonder if he was kind of like Mark Frost on Twin Peaks, reigning in some of David Lynch's most inaccessible ideas and strangest impulses to emerge with more of a standard narrative.

And I haven't read Go-Bots yet, so I don't know if pure, unfiltered Scioli will be better or worse.

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