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Infinitum posted:Don't like this post, because it continues a meta discussion without providing any reasoning for the vote. no
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Jon Joe posted:Before I get into infi’s (imo more substantiated) points against me, I wanted to address merk’s: your posts haven't really pinged me until this one, which reads as very self-conscious and defensive, but trying not to seem flustered, which is p scummy imo. would vote
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Apr 2, 2019 21:40
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Jon Joe posted:Yep, that’s my role. I’m a fake vig. I wasn’t expecting somb to remind people not to post/close the thread, because I thought the purpose of my role was to draw out reactions. I couldn’t use it on fool because it would draw out too much confusion over if the item he didn’t get had anything to do with it, infi wouldn’t be here until until the deadline and I didn’t want to cause that much chaos so close to it, merk I expected to have the discipline to not give anything away. You, though, seemed hot headed enough that you could possibly admit something if you were scum. hmmmmmmmmm. Jonathan Fisk posted:that's classic lie overexplanation. What's the real story 
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Apr 2, 2019 21:43
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George Kansas posted:your posts haven't really pinged me until this one, which reads as very self-conscious and defensive, but trying not to seem flustered, which is p scummy imo. would vote I like jokes, and like to mix them with the serious stuff. I was also born self aware in what were the most horrifying seventeen minutes of my life. Sue me.
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Apr 2, 2019 21:56
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Real curious what you thought about anything I posted before then considering this is your first interaction with me in the game GK. Got anything more solid than “not pinging”?
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Apr 2, 2019 22:01
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Jon Joe posted:Real curious what you thought about anything I posted before then considering this is your first interaction with me in the game GK. Got anything more solid than “not pinging”? Looks pretty forced given your other, more questionable, play.
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Apr 2, 2019 22:03
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Jon Joe posted:I like jokes, and like to mix them with the serious stuff. I was also born self aware in what were the most horrifying seventeen minutes of my life. Sue me. unrelated: are you claiming to remember your own birth? or is this a joke flying way over my head.
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Apr 2, 2019 22:03
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:unrelated: are you claiming to remember your own birth? or is this a joke flying way over my head. Yes to both
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Apr 2, 2019 22:04
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Jon Joe posted:Real curious what you thought about anything I posted before then considering this is your first interaction with me in the game GK. Got anything more solid than “not pinging”? not really Anomalous Amalgam posted:
i hadnt read that yet, i reacted to it after that post, sir
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Apr 2, 2019 22:44
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George Kansas posted:not really fair enough, fair enough.
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Apr 2, 2019 22:45
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merk posted:I used to get pretty hot when people attacked me personally in mafia. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3729528&pagenumber=1906#post493892158 This post in the Discussion Thread isn't about the Amoeba stuff earlier, but I could see someone thinking it might be. Therefore, I'm posting it here for transparency.
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Apr 2, 2019 22:47
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Poop posting at work for a minute, so can't make any big posts (Only big poops) What the gently caress is 'fake vig'. I want more explanation to that please Jon Joe. Like that's essentially a vanilla role, and I don't buy that for a loving second. There's def more to that role. ##vote Jon Joe Fisk I did like you for town previously, but you need to stop tunneling toalpaz and make some commentary on other players. Would also potentially be down for a merk vote as well, as they're posting style on catchup is pinging me
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Apr 2, 2019 22:59
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What is pinging you about me?
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Apr 2, 2019 23:03
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Infinitum posted:Poop posting at work for a minute, so can't make any big posts (Only big poops) It’s. Fake. It’s a vig where it’s garaunteed to fail. And I look like I have a kill to anyone that investigates for kill having. Only part I didn’t mention because it wasn’t relevant was I could have chosen to use at night instead, except to even less effect because nobody would see it unless we have a watcher/tracker type role.
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Apr 2, 2019 23:06
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i think taste is being pretty inhospitable but i lean town on him atm would vote toalpaz (i wont let item wifom deter me from who i think is most likely to be scum), would vote. would also vote jonjoe for already stated reason Infinitum posted:Would also potentially be down for a merk vote as well, as they're posting style on catchup is pinging me is this just a tone thing or do you have a particular reason for thinking he's scum? i've agreed with a lot of merk's reasoning, and even if he's scum he's a high content poster and worth keeping around
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Apr 2, 2019 23:07
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Jon Joe posted:It’s. Fake. It’s a vig where it’s garaunteed to fail. And I look like I have a kill to anyone that investigates for kill having. what do you think the game purpose of such a role is, because I'm the new guy maybe it's just not obvious to me but that sounds bizarre.
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Apr 2, 2019 23:09
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George Kansas posted:even if he's scum he's a high content poster and worth keeping around I hate, have always hated, and will always hate this logic. Vote who you think is scum and don’t give high content posters a free pass. After all, you’re not to me, right? And you might not like my content but you can’t disagree there’s a lot of it. I started out this post just wanting to make a metalogic argument but now I think your double standards are sketchy af.
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Apr 2, 2019 23:10
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fool_of_sound posted:what do you think the game purpose of such a role is, because I'm the new guy maybe it's just not obvious to me but that sounds bizarre. As merk said it operates like I’m a miller (or godfather if I’m scum, but I’m not, but dont take my word for it)
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Apr 2, 2019 23:11
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Jon Joe posted:As merk said it operates like I’m a miller (or godfather if I’m scum, but I’m not, but dont take my word for it) Assuming the existence of the relatively rare gunsmith role. But I have a feeling somber just made some goofy roles in this game.
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Apr 2, 2019 23:14
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Jon Joe posted:I hate, have always hated, and will always hate this logic. Vote who you think is scum and don’t give high content posters a free pass. After all, you’re not to me, right? And you might not like my content but you can’t disagree there’s a lot of it. I started out this post just wanting to make a metalogic argument but now I think your double standards are sketchy af. If the town lost, then you were probably going to lose anyway, what with the town consisting of so many shitposters and lurkers.
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Apr 2, 2019 23:15
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Jon Joe posted:As merk said it operates like I’m a miller (or godfather if I’m scum, but I’m not, but dont take my word for it) yeah I looked that up though and it says the purpose of the miller is to weaken the cop by showing up as falsely guilty. that doesn't make sense if you have to actively choose to fake kill someone before the false guilty shows up; what is the motivation for activating your fake kill in that case?
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Apr 2, 2019 23:16
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George Kansas posted:If the town lost, then you were probably going to lose anyway, what with the town consisting of so many shitposters and lurkers. Put like that I like the argument more, though I still question your double standard of then voting me. Not that you can’t vote me for being scummy, this is a right to which all are entitled by birth, but that you would list this as something to follow but apply it inconsistently is, to me, ‘sus’ as the kids say.
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Apr 2, 2019 23:18
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George Kansas posted:If the town lost, then you were probably going to lose anyway, what with the town consisting of so many shitposters and lurkers. also d1 cases are generally bad, and infinitum's case is "posting pings me," so i guess i just think this logic is actually p good for d1? you dont want the game to devolve and become impossible to win because all the effortposters were lunched and NK'ed early.
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Apr 2, 2019 23:18
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fool_of_sound posted:yeah I looked that up though and it says the purpose of the miller is to weaken the cop by showing up as falsely guilty. that doesn't make sense if you have to actively choose to fake kill someone before the false guilty shows up; what is the motivation for activating your fake kill in that case? I appear as having a kill whether or not I’ve used it.
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Apr 2, 2019 23:19
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Jon Joe posted:Put like that I like the argument more, though I still question your double standard of then voting me. Not that you can’t vote me for being scummy, this is a right to which all are entitled by birth, but that you would list this as something to follow but apply it inconsistently is, to me, ‘sus’ as the kids say. In my mind I'm not applying it inconsistently 
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Apr 2, 2019 23:19
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Jon Joe posted:I appear as having a kill whether or not I’ve used it. ok, then what's the gameplay purpose of the fake kill at all?
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Apr 2, 2019 23:20
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fool_of_sound posted:ok, then what's the gameplay purpose of the fake kill at all? My best guess? It’s funny/flavorful
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Apr 2, 2019 23:21
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Jon Joe posted:My best guess? It’s funny/flavorful that seems strange but I dunno maybe this is an april fools game with all stupid roles or something.
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Apr 2, 2019 23:22
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Toalpaz posted:Dudes Fisk is third party or something, I can't imagine scum or town acting like this? Death miller or executioner? Toalpaz posted:To be clear, Fisk is assuming I'm lying about not being able to pardon myself. He's asking for a thunderdome hoping a real one is placed between me and him. He hopes I will pardon myself and town and scum will kill him. After rereading the game, ##vote Toal You can't possibly believe that Fisk is Death Miller, Jester, or Executioner. Moreover, if you believe Fisk is one of those third party roles, why aren't you voting Fisk? This is Toal seeing that Fisk is winning the argument and trying to find a way to bow out without looking scummy. I think it looks the opposite.
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Apr 2, 2019 23:23
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George Kansas posted:In my mind I'm not applying it inconsistently Peculiar, friend. I am extremely active and have generated mass amounts of content. Even merk, scum as I think he is, will admit to it, even if in the same breath he calls it “meh”. Does anyone else here see the sheer inconsistency of GK?
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Apr 2, 2019 23:23
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Votecount for Day 1  merk (2): A Sometimes Food, Retro Futurist, Jonathan Fisk, Jon Joe (2): merk, Hal Incandenza, Toalpaz (2): George Kansas, Infinitum, Jonathan Fisk, fool_of_sound (1): Jonathan Fisk, Jon Joe, Lynch No One! (1): fool_of_sound Jonathan Fisk (1): kaschei, Toalpaz, Amoeba102 (1): merk, George Kansas, Infinitum (1): merk, Retro Futurist (1): Anomalous Amalgam Dick Bastardly (0): merk, SolusLunes, SolusLunes (0): Infinitum, George Kansas (0): Infinitum, Toalpaz, Not Voting (3): Amoeba102, Dick Bastardly, ToalpazWith 15 alive, it's 8 votes to execute. The current deadline is April 02nd, 2019 at 10:10 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 4 hours, 45 minutes.
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Apr 2, 2019 23:24
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Jon Joe posted:Peculiar, friend. I am extremely active and have generated mass amounts of content. Even merk, scum as I think he is, will admit to it, even if in the same breath he calls it “meh”. I can present it in a different, probably more accurate way if you'd like merk is a drat good town player and i dont think its worth lunching him on "his content pings me" d1 i think the same of max, KB, MMT, and a couple other mafia players, but not very many
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Apr 2, 2019 23:27
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George Kansas posted:I can present it in a different, probably more accurate way if you'd like Sure, that’s better
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Apr 2, 2019 23:29
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Toal is a fine vote, they aren't quite as bad as a few games ago when they were obvious scum but this doesn't feel like town Toal
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Apr 2, 2019 23:32
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I like JJs LOL option and haven't ruled it out. I prefer rf, but would vote toal to clear the air
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Apr 2, 2019 23:38
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At this point I’m going to take a hit to both my pride and credibility to admit my insistence on an infi/fool divide is limiting my ability to think about this game in constructive ways, especially given the overwhelming amount of content we’ve had since then that I should be considering in a more wholistic light. I still do not believe that my initial insistence on the divide was wrong, and further assert that sometimes taking such risks is just what’s needed to win as town, but I will admit I held onto it too long and with too much certainty. I’m going to do a full reread, and my opinions may or may not undergo drastic shifts as a result. Brb.
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Apr 2, 2019 23:41
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Holy poo poo my posts loving suck looking from the outside, in. Anyway halfway through.
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Apr 3, 2019 00:04
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Jon Joe posted:It’s. Fake. It’s a vig where it’s garaunteed to fail. And I look like I have a kill to anyone that investigates for kill having. "It investigates like I have a kill" "Oh yeah it's a Miller role like Merk said." You have over 100 games under your belt in votefinder. You know the way SA plays Miller's is to claim them immediately; you should be policy voted just for not doing so http://mafiawiki.notesmash.org/wiki/Miller This is a whole bunch of horseshit you're shoveling right now and is suss as gently caress. George Kansas posted:is this just a tone thing or do you have a particular reason for thinking he's scum? i've agreed with a lot of merk's reasoning, and even if he's scum he's a high content poster and worth keeping around General tone. As I said he's pinging me atm and I don't have anything substantial past that. "Even if he's scum he's worth keeping around"? Maaaaaate wtf is that nonsense
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Apr 3, 2019 00:17
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That's my morning tea break done. I will try to be around for deadline, but work is busy today. Comfortable with vote on JJ Also cool with a Toalpaz or fool vote
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On page 9 of reread but wanted to respond - I already explained why I saved it, I thought I could use it to force a potentially useful reaction. I did not at the time believe I would merely be a flavorful miller.
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