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FAT BATMAN posted:Wait you can packet-hack doors?? I thought all that packet hacking was only good for sending fake PDA messages! It's also remarkably easy with just two packets. One of "address_1" with the value being the door's ID, one of "command" with value "open" rndmnmbr fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Apr 5, 2019 |
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There is also a command that will open or close and then bolt the doors, a bit like a reversable emag with extra steps.
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The ideal captain is one that actively enables antags through feined incompetance. Winning the round is a job for the crew, not you. You're just the corporation appointed gamemaster.
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The multitool is your friend for learning door wires and can be printed at any General Fabricator. With it you can test each wire before cutting them. If you test a wire and the door bolts drop, you can test the same wire again to raise the bolts. If I recall correctly, testing a third time will drop them permanently. Once you find a wire that makes the test light turn on/off, pull out the wirecutters and snip it. The wire colors are the same for each door in that round, allowing you quick knowledge of which ones to snip when Also, wear insulated gloves. Always wear insulated gloves.
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Dont Touch ME posted:The ideal captain is one that actively enables antags through feined incompetance. Winning the round is a job for the crew, not you. You're just the corporation appointed gamemaster. That depends on the antag. If they're pursuing an actual gimmick or are otherwise making an effort to keep things fun or interesting, I do what I can to accommodate them. If they're just rampaging all over the place or otherwise wrecking poo poo up, then they're getting shot.
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EclecticTastes posted:That depends on the antag. If they're pursuing an actual gimmick or are otherwise making an effort to keep things fun or interesting, I do what I can to accommodate them. If they're just rampaging all over the place or otherwise wrecking poo poo up, then they're getting shot. As AI I generally only capture or start looking for a traitor if I catch them blatantly murdering someone or a few bodies have already been dropped without a clue as to whodunnit. Even if I DO lock them in a room, if Security's not hot-footing it over to keystone cops their way in against the suspect I'll just let'em out. Not the crew's problem, ergo, not my problem  .
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Redeye Flight posted:That maximizes the number of miserable people as it also includes yourself! If you're smart enough to wear a full biosuit, internals, and latex gloves, the only misery you'll experience in Pathology is actually making the disease.  This does not apply if you roll the tier 5 "electrical discharge" symptom, but if you roll that, you're better off waiting outside the station entirely.
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So what's the average on pathogens escaping containment because a greyshirt or Captain came stumbling in to see if something cool was being made?
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Dieting Hippo posted:The multitool is your friend for learning door wires and can be printed at any General Fabricator. With it you can test each wire before cutting them. If you test a wire and the door bolts drop, you can test the same wire again to raise the bolts. If I recall correctly, testing a third time will drop them permanently. Once you find a wire that makes the test light turn on/off, pull out the wirecutters and snip it. The wire colors are the same for each door in that round, allowing you quick knowledge of which ones to snip when If you snip the door bolt wire, you need to pulse it with a multi tool to get them back up. Really, there is no reason to be cutting wires to gain access, it's conspicuous and really annoying for the rest of the crew which will put a target on you. Just pulse the power, go through, crowbar it again behind you and close the panel. Unless you're busting into like, sec or the AI chamber or something like that, most people don't really give a poo poo. Or if sec sees you, of course.
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^^^^ I thought a cut bolt wire would drat a door to always have dropped bolts. Thanks!Neddy Seagoon posted:So what's the average on pathogens escaping containment because a greyshirt or Captain came stumbling in to see if something cool was being made? With security shutters like OSHAN? Never, you get to work in peaceful bliss. Everywhere else? Weld the doors 'cause you're going to get someone coming in to hide out, not expecting someone to actually be in Pathology.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:So what's the average on pathogens escaping containment because a greyshirt or Captain came stumbling in to see if something cool was being made? As long as you're not literally culturing it in a monkey/assistant in the quarantine area, pretty much zero: The pathogen has to touch or be injected into someone to spread, it doesn't just splash onto a table and infect the entire station. I don't think it spreads via ingest but I've never bothered testing that. If you want to accidentally infect the station, leave a syringe/spraybottle full of it around or infect the diner patrons while loudly yelling that the diner is now a biohazard level 5 area and showing up without a full bio suit is an eventual death sentence. If you're not an antagonist, please don't do this with anything lethal because Pathology is not a quick and easy death unless you roll some of the more interesting T4/T5 symptoms. I'll probably do up a rough and dirty guide to Pathology in the secrets thread if anyone wants. redneck nazgul fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Apr 5, 2019 |
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Dont Touch ME posted:The ideal captain is one that actively enables antags through feined incompetance. Winning the round is a job for the crew, not you. You're just the corporation appointed gamemaster. a surprising number of traitors don't have the heart to kill you if you're endearingly/stupidly trusting enough as captain e: or any job really. of course some will still slice your arms off with a katana and leave you to die but those are the breaks Yinlock fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Apr 5, 2019 |
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Dieting Hippo posted:^^^^ I thought a cut bolt wire would drat a door to always have dropped bolts. Thanks! Cog2 Path also has shutters....as I am made painfully aware of every time I try to go in there.
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EclecticTastes posted:That depends on the antag. If they're pursuing an actual gimmick or are otherwise making an effort to keep things fun or interesting, I do what I can to accommodate them. If they're just rampaging all over the place or otherwise wrecking poo poo up, then they're getting shot. the polite thing to do when it's the (rare!!!) occasion to get serious as the captain is to morph into the cool blue armour to show you mean business
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If you have to ask who’s at fault, the captain is a safe bet.
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rndmnmbr posted:I can packet-hack doors, but is there an actual tutorial on going at it with a full toolbelt and not electrifying it? FFS, I have better luck with tearing down reinforced walls than door hacking. Alternatively is there a way to add the packet sniffer/sender to my PDA if I don't come default with it? Steal/trade/loot a pair of insulated gloves. Find an out of the way door and pry open the panel, snip the lines until you find which one drops the bolts and note it. Go to the door you want and cut all lines but that one, prybar it open. Alternatively: to fix the door you bolted, mend all wires and pulse the one you cut that dropped them. Hardmode: pulsing lines will tell you what each does via subtle hints, you can probably pulse the right combo to let you in, electrify trap or disable the id scan or poo poo, but it's just easier to full disable and pry, since you need gloves to do that anyway.
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redneck nazgul posted:If you're smart enough to wear a full biosuit, internals, and latex gloves, the only misery you'll experience in Pathology is catching the disease by some unknown game mechanic allowing germs to exfiltrate the containment area
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redneck nazgul posted:As long as you're not literally culturing it in a monkey/assistant in the quarantine area, pretty much zero: The pathogen has to touch or be injected into someone to spread, it doesn't just splash onto a table and infect the entire station. I don't think it spreads via ingest but I've never bothered testing that. Please do. I tried messing with it a while back and was completely baffled when it came to actually getting anything to happen.
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Please make the starting samples more dangerous for those of us that just wanna put them in a cup and drink them
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Dirk the Average posted:Please do. I tried messing with it a while back and was completely baffled when it came to actually getting anything to happen. There's a "gently caress you" gene called symptomicity that if it changed from a 1 to a 0 makes your pathogen do nothing. I think a lot of the confusion comes from this.
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My first round of SS13 was... Successful? I made sure to pick assistant. Immediately decided I should print myself a cargo barcode and try send myself to somewhere. Did not realize cargo is fired through space - and lost my barcode. Surprisingly unharmed, I ended up in the chapel where I found a lovely lawyer suit, and proceeded to the bar. There, I decided the best course of action would be to give the barkeep my gold bar and start drinking. After getting completely obliterated, I was dragged to medbay and patched up - only to realize I had lost my ID somewhere. After asking fellow bargoers for help, I meandered off in search of the HOP, and somehow blundered my way there. While waiting in line a passerby fed my some sort of pills and ran away - HOP claims they saw no such thing! But I did get a new ID card only to discover my original was inside my PDA. After wandering back to the bar and finding it empty, I decided to try serving myself. I had no such luck, but did find an engineering suit which I appropriated. On my way out, I was stopped only to be offered by a 'Psychotherapist' to be 'treated'. With more mystery pills... This alleged doctor ran off after I ate all the pills at once exclaiming "You ate all of them? You're gonna die now!" Apparently I should have waited to dose? Stumbling around and seeing rainbows everywhere, I managed to find my way to a walrus in a shuttle pod selling more drugs, but by then my stolen suit had started to suffocate me. My attempts to cut my way through an access door were unsuccessful and I collapsed... Only for some angel of a medic to meander by (probably visiting the drug walrus) and drag me to medbay where I was healed up. He also helpfully explained that suits need oxygen, lessons interrupted by me dropping dead for no discernible reason. Fortunately it was but a few steps to the cloner, just in time for end of round shuttle evacuation and for another doctor to give me super strength. Then for whatever reason people were beating each other to death aboard, and I was teleported back to the station just before docking at Central. So much for my 'escape' goal. DarkDobe fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Apr 7, 2019 |
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Pathology is duuuuuumb.
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Vengarr posted:Pathology is duuuuuumb. You're a funny guy, I like you, I'll be sure to infect you last
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Dont Touch ME posted:The ideal captain is one that actively enables antags through feined incompetance. Winning the round is a job for the crew, not you. You're just the corporation appointed gamemaster. This man knows how to correctly play Captain. As well, make sure you're wearing the fanciest clothing possible and never, ever, for any reason, do anything yourself. You have AUTHORITY and LEADERSHIP and by god you will delegate everything. Actually working is for plebians.
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frodnonnag posted:Steal/trade/loot a pair of insulated gloves. Better method: pulse the door wires until you see the test light go off. You now have a couple (10?) seconds to crowbar the door open, step through, and crowbar it back in place with no-one the wiser. dylguy90 posted:You're a funny guy, I like you, I'll be sure to infect you last Just gives me more time to call up the CDC and invalidate all that effort.
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hot take: atmos would be worthwhile if you could make chem smoke go through the vents it would then at least have potential for humorous non-antag fuckery in addition to antag fuckery
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:hot take: atmos would be worthwhile if you could make chem smoke go through the vents there's actually a framework for exactly this in the code but you have no idea the kind of hellish lag and destruction you'd be unleashing. it was left 95% done for a reason.
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Mimesweeper posted:there's actually a framework for exactly this in the code but you have no idea the kind of hellish lag and destruction you'd be unleashing. ...you toolboxed the coder right before they could push and commit it, didn't you? 
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Vengarr posted:Just gives me more time to call up the CDC and invalidate all that effort. My friend, do you have any idea what trying to treat a plague that mutates every other time it hops in a 50+ pop round is like
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dylguy90 posted:My friend, do you have any idea what trying to treat a plague that mutates every other time it hops in a 50+ pop round is like No, because I've never actually seen anyone seriously engage with pathology.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:...you toolboxed the coder right before they could push and commit it, didn't you? Have you SEEN the commit comments?! Swear to God, a toolbox to the head is far from a discouragement, but in fact the only thing that makes most of them feel alive. A WORRYING number of them read like suicide notes. Even the cheerful ones. ESPECIALLY the cheerful ones.
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Mimesweeper posted:there's actually a framework for exactly this in the code but you have no idea the kind of hellish lag and destruction you'd be unleashing. Flaming cheese smoke was a hell of a thing to witness.
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PopeCrunch posted:Have you SEEN the commit comments?! Swear to God, a toolbox to the head is far from a discouragement, but in fact the only thing that makes most of them feel alive. A WORRYING number of them read like suicide notes. Even the cheerful ones. ESPECIALLY the cheerful ones. "Commit Note: Popecrunch left me for dead but didn't finish the job, more fool Popecrunch. Farts are now atmos-processed and can overwhelm the station's oxygen in sufficient quantity". I actually haven't and am now morbidly curious as to where they can be seen.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:"Farts are now atmos-processed and can overwhelm the station's oxygen in sufficient quantity". Truly the future we deserve.
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DarkDobe posted:My first round of SS13 was... Successful? I don't want this post to go unnoticed, because this is a great post.
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Redeye Flight posted:I don't want this post to go unnoticed, because this is a great post. I have since gone on to: Become a Chaplain Bartender and serve people holy water infused abominations. Be the worst Sec ever. Highlights include strangling someone while trying to drag them. Oops? Try my hand at sciencing and proceed to detonate Telescience several times over, then manage to possibly strand miner(s) in the void. Catch the Cap in a generous mood, wherein her spare ID was put to good use and I was Executive HoP for a round. ID upgrades came with offers of floor pills, sadly declined, but the Chaplain that round downed an entire bottle to embark on a spirit journey. Not sure if he made it.
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Vengarr posted:No, because I've never actually seen anyone seriously engage with pathology. Really? It's not hard, the wiki is accurate. You should give it a try if you're curious.
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