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Procrastinator posted:I want to ask the opposite question. What, in your opinion, should never be removed from pro wrestling, if you want to continue to enjoy it? Convoluted submission holds, lariats and power bombs done from the traditional setup. I love wrestling and these moves are the top of wrestling for me in the stuff that isnt real, but is awesome. Zach Sabre Jr. is a cartoon, specifically he is the wrestler that cartoons promised me as a kid, the guy who ties people into knots. That is awesome, and I would miss figure fours and sharpshooters too in the move to a more shoot resembling product. Powerbombs and lariats, best of the hoss moves, and completely not something you would want to do in a fight if you have other options available, but wrestling is great. Marvel movies steal liberally from pro wrestling moves in their choreography, and that isn't a mistake, wrestling has some of the best looking stuff. That said, in addition, one thing I would change as I forgot to mention it the other day is match length, not all the time, but sometimes I like a sprint, and just seeing two guy wreck each other for a minute or two and get pin or submission. Flash KO's and subs are awesome in boxing and MMA and add pins to that list and there is no reason it should be awesome in Wrestling. People get too weird about quick matches. vv Ah, yeah, also give me back my fireworks goddammit! vv remusclaw fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Apr 11, 2019 |
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Procrastinator posted:I want to ask the opposite question. What, in your opinion, should never be removed from pro wrestling, if you want to continue to enjoy it? The weed belt.
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Apr 11, 2019 13:30
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Didn't they remove/cut down on pyro after a bunch of incidents like lighting Taker, Triple H, and a bunch of fans on fire within a year or two?
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Apr 11, 2019 14:14
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Procrastinator posted:I want to ask the opposite question. What, in your opinion, should never be removed from pro wrestling, if you want to continue to enjoy it? 24/7 titles
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Apr 11, 2019 14:16
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Benne posted:-- Someone ripping off the T-shirt of his supposed faction to reveal the T-shirt of his REAL allegiance underneath These are literally my favorite wrestling things
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A greasy old pedophile shrieking "Puppies" at the top of his lungs
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Procrastinator posted:I want to ask the opposite question. What, in your opinion, should never be removed from pro wrestling, if you want to continue to enjoy it? The New Day. Tag Wrestling. Dropkicks. Suplexes of every variety. El Gallinero Gros posted:Piledrivers we don't need the blood. its nice but when we have it people overdo it. when done for a meaningful reason though. your list is perfect Your heel is my favorite kind of heel. which is why I love heel batista so much. he only turned face because he was disrespected. AkumaHokoru fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Apr 11, 2019 |
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Apr 11, 2019 16:53
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Dumb c00l hand signs should never leave pro-wrestling.
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WCW died because they stopped having luchadores take off their mask to reveal who they really are. The Ciclope thing and that time La Parka hit the diamond cutter and then ripped off his mask and it was DDP are incredible, and if WWE has done it recently then you better show it to me right this instant. Fake edit: that time Sting wore a Sting mask in the crowd in TNA is one of the funniest things I have ever witnessed.
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Apr 11, 2019 17:56
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There was a lot more of that in WWF in the late 90s. Triple H dressing up like Goldust to shoot Kane with a goddamn cannon, Taker dressing up like Kane to get close to Vince, etc. Last time I can remember something like that happening is when CM Punk came out dressed like Jeff Hardy and I think that was ten years ago.
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Apr 11, 2019 18:03
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Sting comedy bits always stick with me. Both sting-masked sting and 'that's not sting, that's a PICTURE of sting' especially.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:There was a lot more of that in WWF in the late 90s. Triple H dressing up like Goldust to shoot Kane with a goddamn cannon, Taker dressing up like Kane to get close to Vince, etc. Last time I can remember something like that happening is when CM Punk came out dressed like Jeff Hardy and I think that was ten years ago. I'll never forget how angry that young Jeff fan was. Perfection. Regarding blood, to specify, it bothers me that WWE builds up matches as violent spectacles and then nobody bleeds. The build to Ambrose vs Lesnar had hardcore legends approach Dean and hand him brutal weapons, with the implication that Dean was gonna even the playing field by turning the ring into his personal abattoir. Had that happened I wouldn't have minded Brock going over as long as he took some stuff and made Dean look good . Instead, we got a mediocre hardcore match from a '99 episode of RAW.
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Procrastinator posted:I want to ask the opposite question. What, in your opinion, should never be removed from pro wrestling, if you want to continue to enjoy it? Indie standoffs Delayed selling where the guy holds off certain death just long enough to lay out his opponent so nobody can pin anybody Fighting spirit spots including the 1-count and 1-count into the delayed sell Kicking people in the head When the babyface does the fingers together "this close" after nearly pulling off a quick win Awesome/silly billing locations. I watched an old WCW recently with a jobber billed: "FROM OUTTA TOWN.... SNAAAAAAAAAKE BROOOOOOOWN!"
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I'll never forget how angry that young Jeff fan was. Perfection. That was all Brock's fault. "Naah, don't wanna do hardcore stuff. Might get hurt before I go back to UFC again."
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Indie standoffs Fave town to hail from: "From wherever he drat well pleases". They used that for Sid for a while in WCW.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Fave town to hail from: "From wherever he drat well pleases". They used that for Sid for a while in WCW. "Niggakeeprunnin, Mississippi" - Human Tornado
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Stealth Tiger posted:WCW died because they stopped having luchadores take off their mask to reveal who they really are. The Ciclope thing and that time La Parka hit the diamond cutter and then ripped off his mask and it was DDP are incredible, and if WWE has done it recently then you better show it to me right this instant. They had Jeff Jarrett dress up as a Villano in 2000 and it was terrible because Jeff Jarrett is the worst.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:There was a lot more of that in WWF in the late 90s. Triple H dressing up like Goldust to shoot Kane with a goddamn cannon, Taker dressing up like Kane to get close to Vince, etc. Last time I can remember something like that happening is when CM Punk came out dressed like Jeff Hardy and I think that was ten years ago. Not quite the same as the above, but the Los Conquistadores angle between Edge & Christian and the Hardys was a fun little gimmick.
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Before Brutus Beefcake (and tbh I'm not totally convinced on that count) was there anyone less talented/deserving in the WWE Hall of Fame than Jeff Jarrett? Only counting actual wrestlers, of course.
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Jeff Jarrett's plenty talented, he just sucks rear end and should never have won a world title once let alone like 8 times or whatever.
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Jeff Jarrett has his merits and talents, however he has the same problem Triple H has which is that he has a distinct idea in his head of what he is capable of and what he is best at, and this imagine differs greatly from what he is actually best at and where he should be used. So he ends up being real bad.
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Kvantum posted:That was all Brock's fault. "Naah, don't wanna do hardcore stuff. Might get hurt before I go back to UFC again." Still the WWEs fault for not checking before promoting the match like that. I personally will never criticise a wrestler for refusing to do hardcore bullshit (or really anything else they arent comfortable doing in the ring).
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The best things in pro wrestling are the simplest things. figure four leg locks clotheslines power bombs eye gouges back rakes atomic drops (with accompanying oversell) Heels cheating like motherfuckers even when they don't have to cheat to win Heels being made to look like god drat idiots in the middle of the ring (no one was better at this than Mr Perfect and Rick Rude) Faces having genuine intelligence instead of just being dudley do-right idiots Faces not getting fooled by the same trick over and over again (unless it is funny, although if you do this, you better look like Jim Duggan) Mustaches Archetypal, broad strokes characters that aren't hard to follow In-ring storytelling and psychology being the main drivers of the events
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Fave town to hail from: "From wherever he drat well pleases". They used that for Sid for a while in WCW. Lucha Underground had some sick billing: From the Edge of the World From the Cosmos From the Last House on the Left From Slamtown From When Reptiles Ruled The Earth Hey, speaking of cool billing, who all has had their name as part of a cool phrase? I don't mean like nicknames like "The Million Dollar Man" Ted Dibiase, for example, but like the following: This is Sting! The Man They Call Vader They Call Him Cage It's Bayley!
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Walrus Pete posted:Before Brutus Beefcake (and tbh I'm not totally convinced on that count) was there anyone less talented/deserving in the WWE Hall of Fame than Jeff Jarrett? Only counting actual wrestlers, of course. Jarrett was a hundred times more deserving just on his WWF accomplishments than Koko B. Ware.
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rare Magic card l00k posted:Jarrett was a hundred times more deserving just on his WWF accomplishments than Koko B. Ware. Koko B. Ware had a sick brainbuster though.
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rare Magic card l00k posted:Jarrett was a hundred times more deserving just on his WWF accomplishments than Koko B. Ware. zero times a hundred is still zero
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You guys are doing a great disservice to how awesome Koko's parts in "If You Only Knew" were.
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rare Magic card l00k posted:Jarrett was a hundred times more deserving just on his WWF accomplishments than Koko B. Ware. Koko sag his own theme song 
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Stealth Tiger posted:WCW died because they stopped having luchadores take off their mask to reveal who they really are. The Ciclope thing and that time La Parka hit the diamond cutter and then ripped off his mask and it was DDP are incredible, and if WWE has done it recently then you better show it to me right this instant. 
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It should also be noted that sometimes love is like a piledriver.
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Von Linus posted:It should also be noted that sometimes love is like a piledriver. Woop, woop woop, woop -Birdman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvBEvG8XShY
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Do you think La Luchadora got mad when she found out, or did Becky ask her permission to wear the outfit first? 
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There’s also Koko’s entrance at the ‘93 Royal Rumble
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rare Magic card l00k posted:Jarrett was a hundred times more deserving just on his WWF accomplishments than Koko B. Ware.
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Even in WWE/F canon Hillbilly Jim is a pretty underwhelming Hall of Famer. He was Hogan’s sidekick for a little bit then went down to the mid card. I don’t even recall hm being around for that long either.
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Jim was in the cartoon show, that makes him a Legend. A fraction of the older audience going "Oh yeah, that guy! I loved that guy when I was six!" is more than enough to get you into the WWE HoF.
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