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Grapplejack posted:No go nuts. I don't think he has any tutorials outside of miriki and the starter ones tbh so you aren't going to lose anything. He does have more tutorials if you actually complete the basic "how 2 atack" and "how 2 deflect and git gud" ones.  There's one on sweep attacks and jump counters, IIRC.
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Jan posted:He does have more tutorials if you actually complete the basic "how 2 atack" and "how 2 deflect and git gud" ones. There's also a 'free combat' option where you can go hogwild. Anyway, just made it to Sempou temple (because I couldn't beat Genichiro Ashina) and the building warned me that it was a dangerous area. Like, the literal building. That can't be a good sign right? Is it too early in game for me to be there?
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Nah you'll be fine, it's a bit of story flavor. You'll eventually talk to the voice later on. I'd compare it to the entrance to Old Yharnam
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Apr 12, 2019 16:35
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nah, you can tool around there if you want. you can't fight the boss at the end until after you finish ashina castle though.
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Apr 12, 2019 16:36
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Jerusalem posted:Oh motherfucker, (Ashina Castle after Mibu Village) Owl you death-faking son of a bitch This fight is really hard... two hits and I'm dead? wahhhh
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Ok cool. I also found (item description) some sort of cyanide? The description said: take this and you die. What's up with that? I'm curious in which situation I'd want to use that. Can someone give me a vague answer?
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Necrothatcher posted:This fight is really hard... two hits and I'm dead? wahhhh On the other hand, this is the fight that confirmed that the combat had finally clicked for me and I "got gud" (for NG). He has some fairly predictable attack patterns, and you can go on indefinitely with proper deflecting. Hell, for my winning run, after whittling his health down enough, I let him hit me with the Lloyd talisman-style anti-heal, because that makes him attack more aggressively and get posture to break faster. FWIW, careful use of Shadowrush sped up the process a lot. Get 2-3 of them in and his health will be low enough to get his posture red and then go to town. It's the first time using a Combat Art on a boss actually helped rather than hasten my untimely demise.
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shut up blegum posted:Ok cool. I also found (item description) some sort of cyanide? The description said: take this and you die. What's up with that? I'm curious in which situation I'd want to use that. Can someone give me a vague answer? There isn't really any obvious one outside of using a death to de-aggro normal enemies so you can get a back stab sometimes. It doesn't put a black strike through your resurrections either so I guess there might be an edge case use for using one if you're about to die to a boss and want another res in the same phase?
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shut up blegum posted:Ok cool. I also found (item description) some sort of cyanide? The description said: take this and you die. What's up with that? I'm curious in which situation I'd want to use that. Can someone give me a vague answer? If you use that and then resurrect it doesn't put your other resurrection on cooldown. Resurrecting also puts you at half health so it could be a last-ditch effort to heal if you've run out of gourds but haven't died yet. It's an extremely niche use case but it does exist I suppose?
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Anyone got any tips for the Corrupted Monk illusion fight? I keep coming so close and failing just at the end, anything I can do to soften 'em up?
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shut up blegum posted:Ok cool. I also found (item description) some sort of cyanide? The description said: take this and you die. What's up with that? I'm curious in which situation I'd want to use that. Can someone give me a vague answer? so you die, and you use a resurrection getting back up, but it doesn't put the black strikethrough cooldown on your resurrection so you can immediately burn another one if you eat poo poo. in theory, you can use it to drop all aggro'd targets and discreetly resurrect at will, or even use it to eat poo poo during a boss where you know you're about to die and resurrect, but in practice it's kind of useless. more than anything i get the feeling it's something they put in while they were still tinkering around with the resurrection mechanics and as they got fine tuned and changed around it kind of just lost its purpose. gently caress: beaten; edit
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Southpaugh posted:Anyone got any tips for the Corrupted Monk illusion fight? I keep coming so close and failing just at the end, anything I can do to soften 'em up?
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Southpaugh posted:Anyone got any tips for the Corrupted Monk illusion fight? I keep coming so close and failing just at the end, anything I can do to soften 'em up? Snap dem seeds.
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Southpaugh posted:Anyone got any tips for the Corrupted Monk illusion fight? I keep coming so close and failing just at the end, anything I can do to soften 'em up? Ash clumps seemed to work quite well.
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Southpaugh posted:Anyone got any tips for the Corrupted Monk illusion fight? I keep coming so close and failing just at the end, anything I can do to soften 'em up? Is this the second fight at fountainhead palace? If so then I didn't use snap seeds at all in this fight I just turtled around with the umbrella 
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Well then. Sword monkeys were an interesting creative decision. Dunno if the spoiler text is necessary at all, but figured I'd rather play it safe Edit: oh man, guns too. and they have better aim than the early gun mooks. Terra-da-loo! fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Apr 12, 2019 |
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Apr 12, 2019 18:02
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Jan posted:On the other hand, this is the fight that confirmed that the combat had finally clicked for me and I "got gud" (for NG). He has some fairly predictable attack patterns, and you can go on indefinitely with proper deflecting. Hell, for my winning run, after whittling his health down enough, I let him hit me with the Lloyd talisman-style anti-heal, because that makes him attack more aggressively and get posture to break faster. Thanks for the tip. This game is so crazy in how it burns patterns into your mind until you're parrying just through muscle memory. I fought Owl maybe 30 times and most times took a stomping. The final time it all just clicked and I only had to use one gourd gulp. It suddenly felt like I was dictating the flow of the fight, can't think of many other games like this.  Seriously, does this have the best sword combat in a videogame to date? I think it might.
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Snap seeds, hit em, repeat 2x, while deflecting her attacks that are real low, she’ll do these sweeps at least once or so even while you’re spamming snap seeds and then she’ll jump back, try to use a combat art or latent skill to dash over there and do the same except with Firecrackers until she’s dead. It’s easy, and snap seeds have a 3 use limit btw, and firecrackers take a bit longer maybe but are just as effective. drat, should I get Shadowrush, High Monk or Empowered Mortal Blade? Can meaning towards shadowrush for the rushing attack, I waste lots of spirit emblems using shuriken + R1, but I don’t know if anything else is worth it.. the last regular skill I can unlock is ‘most virtuous deed’, and of course, most of the special move combos, and moves themselves. I really like mortal Blade but I never really know if Ashina Cross does much, but I just fought Ministry mooks for like an hour to restock on emblems, so I don’t wanna waste these SP. Edit: I was also thinking that.. but I don’t have much experience with ‘sword combat’ in video games, as I never played like DMC, or action games like that. But drat, it’s such an improvement, I’d much rather have a fight last like 20 seconds with the possibility of basically getting basically killed in one combo or hit etc, than chip away at dudes with a huge sword for literally minutes, then roll to safety and repeat. Going back to that feels so sluggish and honestly a bit stupid looking when I played it after Sekiro, and I’m glad they not only made an incredible sword combat system that’s also their best combat yet. And like I said, on top of that, there’s always the chance that the fight could end in seconds, which keeps even basic Hirata enemies still a challenge sometimes in the end game. The posture bar going up and the health bar going down is so simple on paper, but adds an insane amount of depth. I hope there’s a DLC of course, but I’d love a sort of spinoff like Bloodborne was to DS, with this sword combat at least. I feel like they will, but instead of a prosthetic you have something else. imhotep fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Apr 12, 2019 |
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I cheated and put a 100x multiplier on XP gain and fought some ministry dudes to unlock the last few skills for the achievement before i ended my game with the shura ending. 70k+ exp PER skill point when you need 9 of them is just absurd. The shura ending bosses made me yell a lot. Mostly at myself. gently caress the grab though, i just can't not get hit by it.
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Endings Question: If I'm doing Return does it lock me out of the return to Hirata from Purification? Or can I still follow that up and just have different options to give the kid at the end?
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Shadowrush uses emblems too so it won't help much with that.
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^burtle posted:Endings Question: The latter, only the bad end Shura locks you out of stuff. Killing the Fountainhead Palace boss is also the point of no return for a few things. (Though I haven’t checked to see if it’s the point of no Return. )
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Woozy posted:Shadowrush uses emblems too so it won't help much with that. Well yeah, but it’s an actual attack, idk, I was hoping it would maybe cover as much area while dealing more damage, or just being a fun alternative to Ichimonji Double and Mortal Blade..and then someone else was saying that High Monk was good, so I’m torn.
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Woozy posted:Shadowrush uses emblems too so it won't help much with that. The leap uses emblems, the charge itself does not. Granted, you can't choose not to leap if you have emblems, but you can still use the most important distance closing element if you're out.
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I unlocked the cure for dragon rot, should I use it immediately or wait until a certain moment in the story? And on an unrelated note, the music and the monks really give a creepy vibe to the Sempou temple area.
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shut up blegum posted:I unlocked the cure for dragon rot, should I use it immediately or wait until a certain moment in the story? Only use it if you want to hear what a NPC wants to say. It can be hard to talk while coughing blood
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WaltherFeng posted:Only use it if you want to hear what a NPC wants to say. Are you talking about the old woman near Sempou temple? She was coughing and saying something like 'I don't know'
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shut up blegum posted:Are you talking about the old woman near Sempou temple? She was coughing and saying something like 'I don't know' Talking about all NPCs. While sick they won't talk with you and you can't progress their quests.
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shut up blegum posted:I unlocked the cure for dragon rot, should I use it immediately or wait until a certain moment in the story? edit: Some NPC somewhere is like "oh thank god I feel better" and then five minutes later "aw gently caress me *cough*" SLOSifl fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Apr 12, 2019 |
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shut up blegum posted:I unlocked the cure for dragon rot, should I use it immediately or wait until a certain moment in the story? The game expects you to use the first one right away because you get an immediate reward for doing it. The cures are technically limited but not rare.
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I'm gonna try to own tutorial G-Man on NG now.
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HenryEx posted:I'm gonna try to own tutorial G-Man on NG now. I'm still legitimately upset that killing him in the tutorial doesn't give you a non-canon ending the first time you do it
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If I'm farming for Divine Confetti is it definitely worth it to ring the Demon Bell first? Without it I'm getting maybe 1 confetti every other time I do the Ashina Castle Antechamber run with all the blue samurai.
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The dialog with Isshin when you give him some Dragonspring Sake is a nice humanizing character moment  He talks about the times when he managed to obtain some Dragonspring where Owl would be completely unable to hold his liquor, Butterfly (implied) would steal it using illusion techniques and there was probably a bit in there about the Sculptor as well, and he sounds pissed off the whole time he's telling the story but then raises a toast to all of them at the end
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Basebf555 posted:If I'm farming for Divine Confetti is it definitely worth it to ring the Demon Bell first? Without it I'm getting maybe 1 confetti every other time I do the Ashina Castle Antechamber run with all the blue samurai. There's really no reason to farm it since once you hit endgame merchants have infinite supplies.
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Basebf555 posted:If I'm farming for Divine Confetti is it definitely worth it to ring the Demon Bell first? Without it I'm getting maybe 1 confetti every other time I do the Ashina Castle Antechamber run with all the blue samurai. i can confirm only that the demon bell quite noticeably and powerfully increases the drop rate (and perhaps tier) of upgrade materials specifically, i do not know whether or not the drop rate of non-upgrade materials is affected.
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Cowcaster posted:i can confirm only that the demon bell quite noticeably and powerfully increases the drop rate (and perhaps tier) of upgrade materials specifically, i do not know whether or not the drop rate of non-upgrade materials is affected. i'm pleased to report i just followed this up with checking the wiki and currently it basically has this written down nearly verbatim
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Grapplejack posted:There's really no reason to farm it since once you hit endgame merchants have infinite supplies. I'm stuck at Corrupted Monk and I really don't feel like going back there without 5-10 confettis. Apparently I can't by confetti until I beat him.
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Anecdotal evidence, but I didn't feel like I got any more confetti from doing a few runs with the bell than without. It's still slow as balls so I'm just being careful about using them until I hit endgame. I bashed my head on a Headless without confetti until I could deflect it to 50% posture and decided I was ready to blow two confetti at that point. e: ^^^^^^^^ Confetti doesn't do anything against corrupted monk? 
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Sapozhnik posted:The dialog with Isshin when you give him some Dragonspring Sake is a nice humanizing character moment Isshin is pretty great. Sekiro: Isshin would make a pretty good DLC like the ones in Metal Gear Rising.
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