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mandatory lesbian posted:Eviolite can stregthen pre-evos but that's one of a very few ways pre-evos can get a leg up on their evos Pikachu gets a Sp. Atk. advantage over Raichu if you give it Light Ball, and Vigoroth doesn’t have Truant.
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And Rhydon is objectively better than Rhyperior cause it's not fugly as hell.
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Dabir posted:And Rhydon is objectively better than Rhyperior cause it's not fugly as hell. They're both uniquely fugly.
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Apr 23, 2019 01:18
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rhydon is top tier monster design
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Farecoal posted:I stopped playing Pokemon after Gen 3. I'm playing through Platinum (for the first time) right now, and will go through all the remaining main DS games. I highly doubt I'll ever play the 3DS ones. Anyway, a question. My knowledge of Pokemon mechanics is pretty much limited to what a kid playing Pokemon would have known or cared about; is there ever a good reason not to evolve a Pokemon? Cute Pokemon were always my favorite, especially "baby" ones like Pichu, starters, etc. and would love to just them without having to evolve them. Yeah, some pokemon learn different moves in their unevolved form. For instance, I still have a Lotad in my current Alpha Sapphire run because it doesn't learn any good grass-type moves in its evolved form. Which is sort of important for coverage when you're doing a Water-based monotype run. Speaking of which, are there any good water-type pokemon I should be on the lookout for (preferably without trading)? Current team is Marshtomp, Lotad, Wingull, Magikarp, and Tentacool. Just completed the second gym in AS.
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huge power azumarill
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absolutely anything posted:that all being said you can totally get through single player not evolving anything, pokemon ain't hard. just use the babies you enjoy  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKCtm43kN5g&t=57s
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oddium posted:rhydon is top tier monster design Rhydon's general concept (chunky, bipedal, tailed dinosaur-kaiju) is almost as overused as monkeys/apes. Nidoking/Nidoqueen, Tyranitar, Kangaskhan (although Kangaskhan at least stands out by being a Mongolian kangaroo), Feraligatr, Aggron, Armaldo...
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those are some top tier monster designs also rhydon was the first monster so he gets a pass fro mthat anyway
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oddium posted:those are some top tier monster designs Rhydon is part of the same generation as Nidoking, Nidoqueen, and Kangaskhan (as the game designers must have been aware, since they gave Giovanni all four of them). I don't really think Rhydon is bad, though; it's just amusing to point out the similarities.
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This is very cute
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Silver2195 posted:Rhydon is part of the same generation as Nidoking, Nidoqueen, and Kangaskhan (as the game designers must have been aware, since they gave Giovanni all four of them). I don't really think Rhydon is bad, though; it's just amusing to point out the similarities. Speaking of Giovanni's team composition, I just noticed that he has a Marowak in B2/W2. Some pretty dark implications there (does it know Giovanni's underlings killed its mother?), although it was probably chosen just because it was a Kanto Ground-type.
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Gripweed posted:oh good. I really enjoyed the game but if there was more significant plot after that, that would be too much Only chance you're going to get one for awhile. Just saying.
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Silver2195 posted:Rhydon is part of the same generation as Nidoking, Nidoqueen, and Kangaskhan (as the game designers must have been aware, since they gave Giovanni all four of them). I don't really think Rhydon is bad, though; it's just amusing to point out the similarities. rhydon is literally the first monster designed, he is the ur-pokemon
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Rhydon contains the memetic code of all pokemon, and designed the universe with its 1,000 horns.
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thy kingdom come, thy drill be spun
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Gruckles posted:Rhydon contains the memetic code of all pokemon, and designed the universe with its 1,000 horns. This is much better than whatever Arceus is supposed to be.
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Silver2195 posted:Speaking of Giovanni's team composition, I just noticed that he has a Marowak in B2/W2. Some pretty dark implications there (does it know Giovanni's underlings killed its mother?), although it was probably chosen just because it was a Kanto Ground-type. On the other hand, a crime lord adopting a child he orphaned is genre-appropriate as heck for mob boss Giovanni. You can even read it positively as him making amends for his mistakes, or negatively as him grooming a loyal follower and extracting maximum  from his crime business.
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lightrook posted:On the other hand, a crime lord adopting a child he orphaned is genre-appropriate as heck for mob boss Giovanni. You can even read it positively as him making amends for his mistakes, or negatively as him grooming a loyal follower and extracting maximum Given that Giovanni has already abandoned one child and says that all Pokémon are tools, I highly doubt that he’s trying to do some “adopt the children of those I killed” poo poo
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Compared to later villains, Giovanni's very one note. He has virtually no excuse to do all the things he does and has no real motives apart from wanting to be the strongest and world domination.
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The Pokémon writers have no capacity to provide even a modicum of personality so I much prefer a simplistic Team Rocket taking over public buildings to the more recent over-complex under-written contrivances they’ve had.
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A lot of things about Giovanni got retconned, didn't they? Although I think some of that is the fault of the translators... https://twitter.com/obskyr/status/986295000060309509 I do like how the introduction of parallel universes allows multiple versions of Giovanni to be equally "canon", though. There can be an RBYGSC Giovanni who said "Team Rocket is finished forever!" and actually meant it, along with remake/USUM Giovannis who never stopped being evil. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Apr 23, 2019 |
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Silver2195 posted:Rhydon's general concept (chunky, bipedal, tailed dinosaur-kaiju) is almost as overused as monkeys/apes. Nidoking/Nidoqueen, Tyranitar, Kangaskhan (although Kangaskhan at least stands out by being a Mongolian kangaroo), Feraligatr, Aggron, Armaldo... Godzilla is king of the monsters for a reason
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Vegetable posted:The Pokémon writers have no capacity to provide even a modicum of personality so I much prefer a simplistic Team Rocket taking over public buildings to the more recent over-complex under-written contrivances they’ve had. Uhhhhhh...no? Quite a few characters in later gens had pretty awesome personalities. Alola in particular was full of em'. Giovanni is one note because he's a first gen villain. Putting him and Team rocket in more complicated circumstances flops because they're just the yakuza. They just wanted domination of the region and money in the first one. Trying to compete with cults, abusive parents and eco terrorists doesn't really fly afterward. Flopsy fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Apr 23, 2019 |
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Flopsy posted:Uhhhhhh...no? Quite a few characters in later gens had pretty awesome personalities. Alola in particular was full of em'. Giovanni is one note because he's a first gen villain. Putting him and Team rocket in more complicated circumstances flops because they're just the yakuza. They just wanted domination of the region and money in the first one. Trying to compete with cults, abusive parents and eco terrorists doesn't really fly afterward. I think it's sort of refreshing that Team Rocket just wants money and power with no real ideological justifications. (I guess some fans think they're "human supremacists," based mainly on a few lines from "The Legend of Thunder," but this isn't really reflected elsewhere in the anime; I don't remember Butch and Cassidy ranting about Meowth being subhuman or anything like that. And in the games, especially in Gen I, Pokemon are animal-like enough that Giovanni viewing them as tools comes across as general assholishness rather than a radical political stance.)
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Giovanni is cool, he invented Rhyperior and dropkicks pokeballs instead of throwing them.
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Funky Valentine posted:Giovanni is cool, he invented Rhyperior wtf I hate giovanni now
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Here's my Pokèopinion: all pokemon are good (even rhyperior), except for lucario
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i don't know if i've posted about it before, but i like gen 2 a whole lot especially due to team rocket mostly just fumbling around and doing weird bullshit to make ends meet or try and get giovanni's attention to get him to come back. it gives it a more relaxed feeling so you, the player, can just sort of focus on the ambience.
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all Pokemon are good but some are dumb and/or ugly. you can be ugly and still be good, and DON'T tell me not to sign my posts!!!
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Zuzie posted:Compared to later villains, Giovanni's very one note. He has virtually no excuse to do all the things he does and has no real motives apart from money m o n e y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpbbuaIA3Ds
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Zuzie posted:Compared to later villains, Giovanni's very one note. He has virtually no excuse to do all the things he does and has no real motives apart from wanting to be the strongest and world domination. What do you mean he has no excuse, he's a crime boss of course he wants more power
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Johnny Joestar posted:i don't know if i've posted about it before, but i like gen 2 a whole lot especially due to team rocket mostly just fumbling around and doing weird bullshit to make ends meet or try and get giovanni's attention to get him to come back. it gives it a more relaxed feeling so you, the player, can just sort of focus on the ambience. it’s so good
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Johnny Joestar posted:i don't know if i've posted about it before, but i like gen 2 a whole lot especially due to team rocket mostly just fumbling around and doing weird bullshit to make ends meet or try and get giovanni's attention to get him to come back. it gives it a more relaxed feeling so you, the player, can just sort of focus on the ambience. It is hilarious that the evil Team of Gen II’s grand plan is to take over a radio tower and beg for their old boss to come back. Gens I and II didn’t really have anything resembling a plot, but at least Gen II’s Team Rocket was almost endearingly pathetic.
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Yo they took over the radio tower so they could broadcast the same signal that made magikarp become red gyarados. It’s a little more sinister than you remember.
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If that was the plan, they don't get around to doing that before you get there.
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Funky Valentine posted:Giovanni is cool, he invented Rhyperior Easily the worst crime he ever committed.
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Apr 23, 2019 13:59
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rhyperior is fine you jerks!
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Sorry OP he’s a trash fire
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Rhyperior is an esteemed courtroom judge.
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