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Falcon2001 posted:Yeah, to expand on this, my big bullshit problem is inventory management. I don't know why so many folks playing modded MC are cool with just like a fuckpile of chests around their base, because every mod adds a billion items, but it drives me up a goddamn wall. I am admin on a custom modpack, and we had one player rage quit when we added a few mods as we refused to change the AE2 config to disable channels and remove the meteors, Why do some people want to make everything a cakewalk?
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TheresaJayne posted:I am admin on a custom modpack, and we had one player rage quit when we added a few mods as we refused to change the AE2 config to disable channels and remove the meteors, Why do some people want to make everything a cakewalk? The meteors are really dumb, hth. Subtle "cazhuls rooinin muh minecrafts" too
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Apr 23, 2019 08:13
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any time the challenge is "run for an hour across the overworld" and nothing else it's something that can be casually excised
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Apr 23, 2019 08:20
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TheresaJayne posted:I am admin on a custom modpack, and we had one player rage quit when we added a few mods as we refused to change the AE2 config to disable channels and remove the meteors, Why do some people want to make everything a cakewalk? The point I was making (and really, just echoing) is that different players find different things 'bullshit' - the flip side here is that there's definitely stuff in your modpack that SOMEONE thinks is 'just an ez mode mod'. For me, Inventory Management is just a huge pain in the rear end. I don't mind long exploration trips (like Patware mentioned disliking) if I know what I'm off to get, I don't mind working with finicky multiblocks, etc. I don't even really mind Gregtech style 'bits and bobs and pieces and parts'...as long as I'm not slowly filling up my base with millions of bullshit chests where I can't find anything. I totally see why some people would find those other things irritating. But as far as I'm concerned? Remembering where you stored something is not like...a fun minigame. It's just dumb bullshit. Building an intelligent AE2 system is interesting, even building something super basic like a Simple Storage Network is rewarding, because there's some give and take and planning to do. (I don't really mind channels to be honest, but I do think the meteors are pretty dumb and anti-fun. Channels are really only a pain when you're doing enormous crazy stuff and actually at that point I do kind of enjoy the logical challenge)
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In Sevtech im about to head to mars. Is it just the same bullshit from here on in? Im asking this because my base is now starting to lag. I cant even look at my tinkers tank without a restart now. And it isnt fun. I cheated in a crystal clear lens for my envirotech, and im still 2 days + waiting on the 2nd teir crap so i can at least put speed upgrades in. Also, Sevtech. the best advice i can give anyone starting. Build your arc furnace as close to where you work as possible, crusher next to it.
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Falcon2001 posted:The point I was making (and really, just echoing) is that different players find different things 'bullshit' - the flip side here is that there's definitely stuff in your modpack that SOMEONE thinks is 'just an ez mode mod'. i did discover that rtp plugin uses the same RNG and so when you rtp you will always appear within 2 chunks of a meteor.
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Patware posted:any time the challenge is "run for an hour across the overworld" and nothing else it's something that can be casually excised Yeah remove having to look for ore too. Also the end portal. And the water temple/dungeons. (I'm being purposely facetious I understand you)
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There's a compass specifically for finding meteors. It takes like 15 minutes tops if you have any kind of fast travel, like a horse. Horses are good, even in modded minecraft. They have step assist and go fast. My favorite AE2 gripe is charged certus. You need to find one in the world. Ever. Once you have one, you can make a charger and make as much as you want. I think this happens because people go straight to y-level 11 and start branch mining, when certus is almost always around 40-50.
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Apr 23, 2019 13:03
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Meskhenet posted:Im asking this because my base is now starting to lag. I cant even look at my tinkers tank without a restart now. And it isnt fun. Do you have any other machines in the same chunk as your tinkers stuff? There's a bug/leak/whatever that causes other machines/chests/items inside the same chunk as the controller to freak out which can eat up a ton of resources on its own.
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Maybe it's because I run around a lot but it's pretty rare that I have a lack of meteors or charged certus. By the time I have the resources and power to start an AE system I usually have a handful of meteor contents from looking for a good spot to set up and at least a half stack of charged certus from walking through caves or checking ravine walls for ore. I actually like the meteor holes for the quick early coal/copper/iron that is uncovered on the surface. In packs with mining world it's even easier to find meteors especially if the mining world is reset periodically. What's my best option for midgame power in Exoria? I've been running off a few windmills and randomly dumping excess creosote oil into a compression dynamo but now my machines are starting to drain my capacitor too quickly. Is the fluid transposer creosote into logs disabled? The recipe is there but I can't stick a log into the machine.
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Depends posted:What's my best option for midgame power in Exoria? I've been running off a few windmills and randomly dumping excess creosote oil into a compression dynamo but now my machines are starting to drain my capacitor too quickly. Got a lot of steel? Make an Immersive Tech multiblock turbine + alternator. It needs steam to run. Ostensibly, you're supposed to use one of its boilers to produce that steam, but there's a goofy mod interaction with Thermal Expansion -- the amount of steam the turbine/alternator needs is very, very small. This means that a single Thermal Expansion dynamo with the boiler augment can power multiple turbine/alternators. Each turbine/alternator puts out 24k RF/t. You'll need six HV connectors and two separate HV lines to carry all that power. I used a steam dynamo and fueled it with the fire crystal things that come out of sifting and from a void miner. Be warned, though -- there's a bug with IE where all power cables will mysteriously stop working once you load the chunk from disk. I solved this by running each power line through a redstone breaker, and used an hourglass or other timer to disconnect the wire for a tick every five minutes or so. Also, regarding logs -> creosote, I believe Thermal Expansion has an augment for the redstone furnace that turns it into a one-block coke oven.
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Depends posted:Maybe it's because I run around a lot but it's pretty rare that I have a lack of meteors or charged certus. By the time I have the resources and power to start an AE system I usually have a handful of meteor contents from looking for a good spot to set up and at least a half stack of charged certus from walking through caves or checking ravine walls for ore. I actually like the meteor holes for the quick early coal/copper/iron that is uncovered on the surface. My problem isn't with meteors per se, it's that you have to (or at least had to, don't know if it's changed) find at a minimum of four meteors to get all the inscriber plates. It was never just 4 meteors though, cause I'd always find dupes of the plates and have to go find another one. I'll find a meteor for the sky stone and then just command myself the plates because gently caress searching for them for the 20th time.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:My favorite AE2 gripe is charged certus. You need to find one in the world. Ever. Once you have one, you can make a charger and make as much as you want. I think this happens because people go straight to y-level 11 and start branch mining, when certus is almost always around 40-50. On one modpack I had three people caving and mining for about 10 hours before finding the first piece of charged certus. I've never had a problem before or since, but that really left a bad taste in my mouth. Nowdays, I just cheat in a charger if I make a AE system and haven't found a charged crystal.
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Or just do like a couple goon servers I've played on and crafttweaker a charged certus recipe that needs regular certus + redstone.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Also, regarding logs -> creosote, I believe Thermal Expansion has an augment for the redstone furnace that turns it into a one-block coke oven. I'm trying to make treated wood without having to use the stupid cauldron and going through the planks>lacquered>treated. There is a recipe for the transposer to squirt the creosote directly into a log for treated planks but you can't actually insert the logs
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Depends posted:I'm trying to make treated wood without having to use the stupid cauldron and going through the planks>lacquered>treated. There is a recipe for the transposer to squirt the creosote directly into a log for treated planks but you can't actually insert the logs Yeah there isn't any way to avoid that. Either make them in large batches or avoid having to use them in the first place.
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Rynoto posted:Do you have any other machines in the same chunk as your tinkers stuff? There's a bug/leak/whatever that causes other machines/chests/items inside the same chunk as the controller to freak out which can eat up a ton of resources on its own. Lol of course ive got other stuff in the same chunk >< Is there anything left in the pack though? Or is it all just waiting games? I might try that presteging skyblock. (if i can scroll up to find what it is called.)
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Meskhenet posted:
Sky Factory 4. Prestige is just the 'expert' mode, you don't have to do it. I'm having a blast with the pack on standard mode right now - I'm finally learning Deep Mob Learning, and there's a whole pile of mods I've never used that I have to use in it, like Simple Storage, Custom Chests, File Cabinets, etc. Also, I'm learning just how crazy you can do poo poo with Cyclic. That mod's weirdly powerful for something I've never touched before. The Nether's super unique too, and resource trees are surprisingly fun.
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Meskhenet posted:Lol of course ive got other stuff in the same chunk >< Skip prestige mode imo, the first big difference is that you have no vein miner until you 'purchase' it with prestige points, which means you're starting a block centered around trees, with no fast leaf decay, and no way to veinmine the leaves.
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Devor posted:Skip prestige mode imo, the first big difference is that you have no vein miner until you 'purchase' it with prestige points, which means you're starting a block centered around trees, with no fast leaf decay, and no way to veinmine the leaves. Also prestige mode means no hopping bonsais so you're stuck making a dozen regular ones for every tree and manually clicking them down and then clicking the drops into chests or drawers because each tree drops leaves, resin, acorns, wood, sticks, and saplings. I pushed through it long enough to actually get a couple prestige points but it made me not actually enjoy restarting. Whoops!
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Bonsai pots are so, so bad for performance. SF4 bases are going to be utter hellscapes of lag.
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For example: I took this on the Progress server. Guess whose base this was  
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Devor posted:Skip prestige mode imo, the first big difference is that you have no vein miner until you 'purchase' it with prestige points, which means you're starting a block centered around trees, with no fast leaf decay, and no way to veinmine the leaves. Do note that for Skyfactory 4, the leaves are important and you want to crook the leaves, not let them naturally decay. You get a shitton more saplings and acorns which are both important for progression.
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What are the SF4 leaves used for? I don't remember seeing anything in JEI.
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Evil Mastermind posted:What are the SF4 leaves used for? I don't remember seeing anything in JEI. They can be stomped in a tub for water (it's how I got my first two buckets) and sugarcane seeds, as well as crooked for drops and some other stuff I don't remember right now. Check (U)sage for them.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:For example: I took this on the Progress server. Guess whose base this was If you void those drawers properly this effect is vastly reduced. on the other hand you probably made those cost steel so... I'm kidding
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Bonsai pots are so, so bad for performance. SF4 bases are going to be utter hellscapes of lag. Shouldn't they be more or less the simplest single-block machines possible? Input doesn't change, timing doesn't change, there's no fuel to keep track of... it should literally be as simple as ticking itself once every 20 seconds or so to create a drop. How on earth is this such a resource hog?
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:For example: I took this on the Progress server. Guess whose base this was Playing SF3 I had a 5x12 grid of hopping bonsais going into hoppers and it didn't make that much lag 
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Vib Rib posted:Why though I've noticed if it's a hopping bonsai and it can't output an item, it'll keep one of that item in its queue. My guess is it's trying to send that item constantly until it can.
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McFrugal posted:I've noticed if it's a hopping bonsai and it can't output an item, it'll keep one of that item in its queue. My guess is it's trying to send that item constantly until it can. That checks out with what I've seen. Void upgrade anything you put bonsai hoppers into.
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Falcon2001 posted:That checks out with what I've seen. Void upgrade anything you put bonsai hoppers into. Use filing cabinets with the expectation you'll quit playing before it fills up imo
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 It's an item piping system. It apparently has Tesserats.
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Well now I definitely have to fit up my base with a glass ceiling to see those guys skitter along. 
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:
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McFrugal posted:I hope the entities aren't too laggy. Also why are those chests like that? Rendering gets hosed up at super high FOV.
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Ambaire posted:Rendering gets hosed up at super high FOV. Oh I see, those are single chests, not sideways double chests.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:
This is a delight. More mods need to focus just on weird storage things.
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Does it include some sort of hole-in-the-wall? Fakeedit: hahaha yesssss
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McFrugal posted:I hope the entities aren't too laggy. Also why are those chests like that? I am disappointed in myself that instead of reveling in the novelty and innovation of this, I also thought about the entity lag.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:
is there a giant rat that makes all the rules
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