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As Nero Danced posted:Question, to see if I understand Captain Marvel's role correctly: Does she pull a Poochie in the first 10 minutes? "I must go, other planets need me" and then comes back in the last 10 minutes of the movie to get a participant trophy? I think she says something to the effect of "I'm a pretty big deal, policing the entire universe and poo poo. Now that I'm here, let's go take down Thanos, I got this." And then she proceeds to get knocked out by the power stone I think, resulting in Tony believing he has to use the gauntlet himself. I wonder what the original plan was. If Captain Marvel was the one to use the gauntlet, but fucks it up, just lmao.
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Mat Cauthon posted:Agreed. It's just so strange to me. Like, if you're going to write her out of the movie, do it in a way that might give the audience a bit of a shock. She'd come back at the end of the film anyway!
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Apr 24, 2019 02:39
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No, seriously, where the hell is Hulk? Is he just not in Endgame at all?
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Apr 24, 2019 02:39
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:No, seriously, where the hell is Hulk? Is he just not in Endgame at all? He undoes the snap to bring everyone back, but it fucks up his arm really bad.
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Apr 24, 2019 02:41
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teagone posted:He undoes the snap to bring everyone back, but it fucks up his arm really bad. To add to this, he's professor Hulk, but either the fusion of Banner and Hulk's minds is uninteresting or it happens offscreen because everything I've seen says "five years have passed, he's professor Hulk now" without explaining how the hell that happened. e:vv that's a bummer. Got the feeling I might say that about a lot of this one. As Nero Danced fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Apr 24, 2019 |
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Apr 24, 2019 02:48
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It's the latter.
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Apr 24, 2019 03:01
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leaks are real lmao
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Apr 24, 2019 03:02
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teagone posted:Yeah, I don't think the Russo's really gave a poo poo about how their time travel component worked in Endgame at all. They were gunning for the easiest ways to manipulate audience emotions to get the biggest impact, regardless of whatever consequences or paradoxes happen as a result. There aren’t really any paradoxes per se. It’s just incredibly dumb. Here’s the entire plot of the 3-hour film: Thanos is tracked down and killed in the first 10 minutes. They build a Sliders machine and pillage five new stones from an alternate universe. Stark and Black Widow died during the pillage, but all the dust people are back now. Literally nothing else happens in the main timeline.
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Apr 24, 2019 03:11
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Has anyone mentioned the post credits scene(s) or the Stan Lee cameo?
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Apr 24, 2019 03:27
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Spalec posted:Has anyone mentioned the post credits scene(s) or the Stan Lee cameo? I haven't heard of either actually. my own theory is that every Stan Lee cameo was Steve Rogers watching over the timeline after going back to Peggy, while wearing a convincing mask. e: I still like mine better, silly as it is. As Nero Danced fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Apr 24, 2019 |
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Apr 24, 2019 03:28
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Spalec posted:Has anyone mentioned the post credits scene(s) or the Stan Lee cameo? No post credits scene apparently. Stan Lee cameo is a younger version of himself driving past Cap and Stark in the 1970s when they time travelled back to the SHIELD base in Winter Soldier to get the tesseract.
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Apr 24, 2019 03:32
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Reviews are out. It's the 'best Marvel movie ever,' I cried my eyes out, I want to name my child Rocket Raccoon, etc. etc. Based on the plot spoilers I'm somewhat surprised.
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Apr 24, 2019 03:34
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Shneak posted:Reviews are out. It's the 'best Marvel movie ever,' I cried my eyes out, I want to name my child Rocket Raccoon, etc. etc. disney has a sword of damocles hanging over every critic's head especially after the fox buy plus they were already bad at their jobs, with one or two exceptions
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Apr 24, 2019 03:37
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Shneak posted:Reviews are out. It's the 'best Marvel movie ever,' I cried my eyes out, I want to name my child Rocket Raccoon, etc. etc. Imagine if you had just read an outline of Infinity War. It wouldn't sound great or make sense, but IF ended up being one of the best superhero movies of the decade.
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Apr 24, 2019 03:37
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Thor emptily murders you and a doppelganger walks in your shoes, OP
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Apr 24, 2019 03:40
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Mameluke posted:Thor emptily murders you and a doppelganger walks in your shoes, OP I doubt that's true but if Thanos actually does die permanently I'll never post again after the movie's release
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Apr 24, 2019 03:45
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Daddy Thanos posted:I doubt that's true but if Thanos actually does die permanently I'll never post again after the movie's release Toxx this please
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Apr 24, 2019 03:46
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Daddy Thanos posted:Imagine if you had just read an outline of Infinity War. It wouldn't sound great or make sense, but IF ended up being one of the best superhero movies of the decade. What does IF stand for I wouldn’t mind seeing it if it’s so good
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Apr 24, 2019 03:46
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Daddy Thanos posted:I doubt that's true but if Thanos actually does die permanently I'll never post again after the movie's release It’s already out, waiguo ren
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Apr 24, 2019 03:48
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DeimosRising posted:What does IF stand for I wouldn’t mind seeing it if it’s so good He means Netflix’s Iron Fist, obviously. ... It’s not very good, though.
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Apr 24, 2019 03:49
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The Unnamed One posted:He means Netflix’s Iron Fist, obviously. "What if 'Arrow' but somehow cheaper looking and worse?"
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Apr 24, 2019 03:59
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The Unnamed One posted:He means Netflix’s Iron Fist, obviously. On the upside, in comparison to that, Endgame doesn't sound too bad now.
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Apr 24, 2019 04:03
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Daddy Thanos posted:I doubt that's true but if Thanos actually does die permanently I'll never post again after the movie's release Dies twice my dude. Thor decals him, Tony dusts a past version of him.
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Apr 24, 2019 04:19
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Daddy Thanos posted:I doubt that's true but if Thanos actually does die permanently I'll never post again after the movie's release 
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Apr 24, 2019 04:20
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Daddy Thanos posted:I doubt that's true but if Thanos actually does die permanently I'll never post again after the movie's release he does. fun while it lasted!
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Apr 24, 2019 04:23
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Daddy Thanos posted:I doubt that's true but if Thanos actually does die permanently I'll never post again after the movie's release I'll miss you, account that's been here almost a full calendar month
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Apr 24, 2019 04:23
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Chris James 2 posted:I'll miss you, account that's been here almost a full calendar month Best light-gimmick account in forever.
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Apr 24, 2019 05:01
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Subverted expectations: The heroes can’t save the world, but you can be drat sure they don’t avenge it either. Maybe the real avengers endgame was the friends we remade along the way.
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Apr 24, 2019 05:11
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Maybe I'm reading all these spoilers wrong but am I correct in assuming That they say they bring back the snapped heroes and it's five years later, but these unsnapped people are back from their point of view like they never left (and I'm assuming all the ordinary people in the galaxy got unsnapped as well, because JESUS CHRIST if not), doesn't that mean that all the returned people are five years younger than their friends. Like Spider-Man is now five years behind all the people in his class who didn't turn to dust? Seems pretty hosed up if so
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I grew up reading Marvel comics, I was introduced to them by my dad. I have a significant level of nostalgia and love of the characters and that likely colours why I like the movies so much. To me it's incredible that these movies are getting made, they're exactly what I wanted when I was reading the comics as a kid. Every attempt prior to Iron Man seemed to be ashamed of it's source material, excising anything that was too silly, colourful, fun or otherwise interesting in favour of cheap blandness. A few movies got part of the way there, Donner's Superman, Burton's Batman and 1/3 of the X-Men movies (yikes) in particular but there was that ever-present shamefulness of being inspired by a comic book that held them back from being definitive versions of those stories and characters. Not that I think everything Marvel Studios has produced has been perfect, but the quality level has been pretty ridiculously high overall considering the track record of most comic book movies released prior. The time travel stuff is fine. They set up the rules, they can travel back and snatch the stones but have to put them back afterwards, and can't gently caress things up too much or the fabric of the universe falls apart and all that. It's hard to grasp due to the rushed pace, though as far as I figure it seems to stick with them. All time travel plotlines have these problems, doesn't stop the long list of time travel movies namedropped by Lang from also being a list of my most of my favourite movies. Time travel is fun, it's probably the most comic book poo poo there is, I'm completely ok with it being used as a plot device. Steve Rogers not going after Hydra or for Bucky after travelling backwards in time to live his life with Peggy I guess might seem out of character, but is also kinda easy to rationalize. It'd tear him up inside, but he's cheated enough and the alternative is the possibility of half the universe getting murdered again or worse. I enjoyed it, though It felt really rushed at times. There aren't plotholes so much as gaps in time where the movie assumes you can figure out what happened based on context and prior knowledge, it's taken to somewhat of an extreme and would end up incomprehensible to people coming in blind. It makes me think that maybe it might have worked better as a really expensive miniseries on Disney+, which is probably the direction they're going to go in eventually. SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Apr 24, 2019 |
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garycoleisgod posted:Maybe I'm reading all these spoilers wrong but am I correct in assuming That they say they bring back the snapped heroes and it's five years later, but these unsnapped people are back from their point of view like they never left (and I'm assuming all the ordinary people in the galaxy got unsnapped as well, because JESUS CHRIST if not), doesn't that mean that all the returned people are five years younger than their friends. Like Spider-Man is now five years behind all the people in his class who didn't turn to dust? That's my understanding as well. The implications of this are pretty bad honestly. Imagine the chaos following the snap- it's essentially 5 years into Mad Max world, then everyone pops back in, without knowing where they went. That's just makes the universe even more messed up. E: SCheeseman posted:
Is Professor Hulk one of those gaps? From what I read he basically says "I sorted that out years ago, I'm fine now, don't worry about it." after the five year gap without explaining how he did it. As Nero Danced fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Apr 24, 2019 |
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Apr 24, 2019 05:57
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Aight, I just want to know. Is their a “Everyone” scene or a “Avengers..Assemble scene”?
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Apr 24, 2019 06:05
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Spam Musubi posted:Aight, I just want to know. Is their a “Everyone” scene or a “Avengers..Assemble scene”? Both.
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If they actually follow through with the people getting revived 5 years into the hell world thing, then phase 4 might be interesting if they deal with those ramifications. But otoh we already have a Spider-Man trailer where he appears to be on a class trip with the same friends who are definitely not 5 years older, so I'm guessing Dr Strange sends them through time portals or some poo poo in order to make the phase 4 universe nice and tidy and generic.
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As Nero Danced posted:That's my understanding as well. The implications of this are pretty bad honestly. Imagine the chaos following the snap- it's essentially 5 years into Mad Max world, then everyone pops back in, without knowing where they went. That's just makes the universe even more messed up. It's explained as him managing to find an equilibrium, it's not handwaved and is touched upon a little but the exposition is pretty brief. Though that along with Stark's daughter help establish that a lot has changed over those 5 years, some of it for good, there are things that people don't want to give up and not reversing those things was a condition of Stark's help in developing the time travel tech. Bringing everyone back as opposed to messing with their own timeline makes sense in that context, even if the universe they return to is in a bit of a mess. DrNutt posted:If they actually follow through with the people getting revived 5 years into the hell world thing, then phase 4 might be interesting if they deal with those ramifications. But otoh we already have a Spider-Man trailer where he appears to be on a class trip with the same friends who are definitely not 5 years older, so I'm guessing Dr Strange sends them through time portals or some poo poo in order to make the phase 4 universe nice and tidy and generic. When they're revived, everyone comes back in the same state they were in when they left. This means that they are actually 5 years younger than everyone else, it's unavoidably going to come up. Also, it was half of all life, animals like birds were shown as being affected. The ramifications of that would be really interesting to explore. SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Apr 24, 2019 |
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https://twitter.com/ErikDavis/status/1120550726072262658
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SCheeseman posted:When they're revived, everyone comes back in the same state they were in when they left. This means that they are actually 5 years younger than everyone else, it's unavoidably going to come up. Well that's clearly not the case in the Far From Home trailer sooooo, it's getting fixed somehow.
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it's cool that studios don't even have to make up fictitious people to give their movies fawning reviews now an army of david mannings
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DrNutt posted:Well that's clearly not the case in the Far From Home trailer sooooo, it's getting fixed somehow. Roughly half his classmates disappeared, it's never made clear who does so everyone in Far From Home that are also in the first movie may have been a part of that half.
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SCheeseman posted:Roughly half his classmates disappeared, it's never made clear who does so everyone in Far From Home that are also in the first movie may have been a part of that half. I applaud your optimism if you think this is going to be meaningfully addressed by Far From Home or any subsequent MCU films, but I am extremely skeptical about the prospects of that.
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