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Away all Goats posted:The funniest was the writers going 'no! It was a moment of passion. She actually wanted to have sex in front of her dead son' The thing is, in the books she does want to and it would have been super easy to just adapt the scene as it was. Maybe avoid the part where she's currently on her period but w/e The show made that scene so much weirder than it already was.
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tho ngl GRRM does have a point that the scene as written in the book doesn't work as well in the show, where Jaime has been in KL p much the whole time anyway and was there for Joffrey's death. In the book it's this huge high emotion moment where they're seeing eachother for p much the first time since he was captured by the Starks, and both dealing with the death of their son-- and Jaime struggling with the double guilt of failing as a Kingsguard and failing as a protector to his family, with Cersei struggling with both being happy to see him and being furious he wasn't around to stop Joffrey from dying, plus the added bonus of being disgusted he doesn't have a hand any more lmbo They really should have just cut the scene or found a way to play up the grief in a better, less rapey way.
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esperterra posted:tho ngl GRRM does have a point that the scene as written in the book doesn't work as well in the show, where Jaime has been in KL p much the whole time anyway and was there for Joffrey's death. In the book it's this huge high emotion moment where they're seeing eachother for p much the first time since he was captured by the Starks, and both dealing with the death of their son-- and Jaime struggling with the double guilt of failing as a Kingsguard and failing as a protector to his family, with Cersei struggling with both being happy to see him and being furious he wasn't around to stop Joffrey from dying, plus the added bonus of being disgusted he doesn't have a hand any more lmbo Oh come on nothing says grief like raping your sister on you dead incest sons coffin. That is just a classic scene in every movie.
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Elephanthead posted:Oh come on nothing says grief like raping your sister on you dead incest sons coffin. That is just a classic scene in every movie. hmmmm fair argument tbh
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Apr 24, 2019 23:50
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The only explanation I've come up with is that they knew the scene existed in the book and figured it was an opportunity to make Circe more sympathetic by having her get raped. This is kind of obscene ofc I just don't see any other reason for it to be directed the way it was.
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Apr 24, 2019 23:57
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I like to imagine GRRM having sex Go on ...
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No Wave posted:The only explanation I've come up with is that they knew the scene existed in the book and figured it was an opportunity to make Circe more sympathetic by having her get raped. This is kind of obscene ofc I just don't see any other reason for it to be directed the way it was. This shouldn't bother me but it's been like five posts now It's Cersei
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Sky Shadowing posted:There might even be a moment where the Living are trying to retreat into Winterhold That's the Skyrim place.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I like to imagine GRRM having sex Put your finger in my moon hole! Watch me fly!
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I like to imagine GRRM having sex One of GRRM's many book delay excuses was that he contracted a urinary tract infection from anal sex with his partner Ol' Shitdick nearly lost the mast of his loveship that day
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I like to imagine GRRM having sex I'd imagine it's a lot like the ending of Brian Yuzna's Society. "I love the thrill of the hunt... and the taste of the shunt!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcfav-5kArM
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Doltos posted:This shouldn't bother me but it's been like five posts now Circe is annoying but not nearly annoying as people spelling Jaime as Jamie idk why that on bothers me the most out of all the weird names in this show
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Apr 25, 2019 00:28
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Thom12255 posted:That's the Skyrim place. My avatar should be a solid indicator of why I get that messed up rather often.
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ruddiger posted:"I love the thrill of the hunt... and the taste of the gunt!"
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esperterra posted:Circe is annoying but not nearly annoying as people spelling Jaime as Jamie Well, that one's a common name in real life too, and it's usually spelled Jamie. In my head, I always pronounce Jaime as hy-may.
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esperterra posted:Circe is annoying but not nearly annoying as people spelling Jaime as Jamie Between reading AGOT and watching season one I thought he just inexplicably had a spanish name
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Phenotype posted:Well, that one's a common name in real life too, and it's usually spelled Jamie. That's what I mean, I don't know why mispelling Jaime of all names bugs me when it's one of the most normal names lol
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Apr 25, 2019 00:39
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I like to imagine GRRM having sex They should have a grrm sex scene cameo
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ROFL Octopus posted:They should have a grrm sex scene cameo
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ROFL Octopus posted:They should have a grrm sex scene cameo I guess there could be one last scene in Littlefingers old Brothel, who's paying those women now he's dead anyway?
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Apr 25, 2019 00:47
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They formed a sex workers coop.
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Thom12255 posted:I guess there could be one last scene in Littlefingers old Brothel, who's paying those women now he's dead anyway? Bronn
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It’s an autonomous collective.
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words were literally invented to talk about food and sex so actually grrm gets it and yall are puritan cuckolds
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A Buttery Pastry posted:In the case of Dany, I wonder if they could have had her keep that vulnerability throughout the show? She can keep the bluster when she has an audience, acting like she thinks she's supposed to act as a Warrior Queen, and then make her all impostor syndrome when alone. That could sorta make her not being a convincing Warrior Queen work, what with it being an actual in-show smoke screen for someone with a head full of stories about what Targaryans are supposed to be without the proper temperament for living up to them. They actually did with a couple times with Robb early on, which I really liked. It would be more representative of Dany's internal monologues  in the books (yeah, yeah, I know) as well
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Phenotype posted:Well, that one's a common name in real life too, and it's usually spelled Jamie. Jaime's dyslexic so maybe it's intentional.
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Book Dany is def a more vulnerable character. The show version loses a lot of what makes her tick by removing the prophecies that haunt her and make her see potential betrayals around every corner. They should have kept that and leaned into it, especially because aging her up (rightfully so) loses the vulnerability that naturally comes with her being loving sixteen still during the events of Meereen. She needs something to make her seem like a more rounded character. The tough as nails warrior queen schtick got old very fast when it turned out the show had nothing to reveal behind it.
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christmas boots posted:Whoa, somehow I'm just now encountering the "Jon Snow is Lightbringer" theory. This poo poo is wild. Read that as "Jon Snow is Littlefinger" theory. GURM's third epic reveal found!
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esperterra posted:Book Dany is def a more vulnerable character. The show version loses a lot of what makes her tick by removing the prophecies that haunt her and make her see potential betrayals around every corner. They should have kept that and leaned into it, especially because aging her up (rightfully so) loses the vulnerability that naturally comes with her being loving sixteen still during the events of Meereen. The women in the show seem to all be a victim of badass writing. I get it makes the twitter crowds cheer when Arya kills all the Freys or Sansa pulls out the big political intrigue guns on Littlefinger, but if every girls a badass then they aren't special. Even Cersei lacks the depth of book Cersei by turning her into an unrelenting mean queen.
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As much poo poo as people give The GURM for being a weirdo perv, his female characters are at least complex people and honestly it's one of my favourite things about those dumb gay books !!
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Doltos posted:The women in the show seem to all be a victim of badass writing. I get it makes the twitter crowds cheer when Arya kills all the Freys or Sansa pulls out the big political intrigue guns on Littlefinger, but if every girls a badass then they aren't special. Even Cersei lacks the depth of book Cersei by turning her into an unrelenting mean queen. Weirdly, I feel like actual badass warrior Brienne has shown the most vulnerability, but that could just be on account of Gwendolyn Christie being amazing.
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Crow Jane posted:Weirdly, I feel like actual badass warrior Brienne has shown the most vulnerability, but that could just be on account of Gwendolyn Christie being amazing. Brienne is one of the few women in the show that I think they really got right, like in terms of having depth like her book counterpart does. It's a shame they gave her absolutely nothing to do after her fight with The Hound. e: also yah christie owns
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Doltos posted:The women in the show seem to all be a victim of badass writing. I get it makes the twitter crowds cheer when Arya kills all the Freys or Sansa pulls out the big political intrigue guns on Littlefinger, but if every girls a badass then they aren't special. Even Cersei lacks the depth of book Cersei by turning her into an unrelenting mean queen. I feel like most of this can be fixed by writers remembering that 'badass' only rarely means 'ice cold bitch' when it comes to women. Like...the way Dany stands up to Viserys for the first time in Season 1 is MILES more badass in my book than any number of people that she burns later with a smug/cold stare. Also as the above posters said...Brienne's prolly the only badass woman on the show atm I consider to be perfect and yea...it's precisely because in her private times she acts out her vulnerabilities and hangups while doing what she has to the rest of the time. It actually makes her feel like a human being. CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Apr 25, 2019 |
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Crow Jane posted:Weirdly, I feel like actual badass warrior Brienne has shown the most vulnerability, but that could just be on account of Gwendolyn Christie being amazing. Yeah Gwendolyn Christie is a great actress and her character is well developed. I feel like most of the adults have good character development while the Stark kids kinda suffer from being the poster kids of the series. CrazyLoon posted:I feel like most of this can be fixed by writers remembering that 'badass' only rarely means 'ice cold bitch' when it comes to women. Like...the way Dany stands up to Viserys for the first time in Season 1 is MILES more badass in my book than any number of people that she burns later with a smug/cold stare. Exactly. Dany isn't badass anymore she's just a jerk, same with Cersei. Arya is more of a smug rear end in a top hat right now that needs to get knocked down a peg than a badass. Sansa too.
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With Cersei they at least gave her sympathetic traits, I just don't like their way of making her vulnerable as much as I enjoy book Cersei. Headey kills it always tho
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Phenotype posted:Well, that one's a common name in real life too, and it's usually spelled Jamie. I bet I’ve been doing that a lot. I phone post and don’t double check to see if autocorrect changed anything
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Doltos posted:The women in the show seem to all be a victim of badass writing. I get it makes the twitter crowds cheer when Arya kills all the Freys or Sansa pulls out the big political intrigue guns on Littlefinger, but if every girls a badass then they aren't special. Even Cersei lacks the depth of book Cersei by turning her into an unrelenting mean queen. Who isn’t a dead-eyed killer on the show, though? Sam and Gilly? Maybe Tyrion? Marge? I feel like the brutality of the world has most characters who survive follow that Arya/Sansa trajectory more often than not.
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