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forkboy84 posted:Totally unrelated, have they said anything about Bryan's injury or is it still all quiet on that front? Still all quiet If you're wondering about Sasha: Dave posted:The Sasha Banks situation also remains unchanged. She isn’t happy and the company isn’t reacting much to her. The attitude right now from the company side is that she can go sit out the rest of her contract if she wants to.
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All this is is gonna do is make any indie wrestlers who have even remotely built a brand for themselves that much more hesitant to sign a long term contract with WWE. So uhh, yeah keep doing it
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Raskolnikov38 posted:how much time is left on sasha's contract and aren't they just going to freeze it/add time to it if she's not at the shows 2 years. Extending it to 2023 or longer would be nuts and give them PR damage when (again) they've never let a male talent sit longer than 10 months before granting them a release. Even Harper would only be 11 if he sat from now until next March when his deal's now ending
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Chris James 2 posted:2 years. Extending it to 2023 or longer would be nuts and give them PR damage how many minors did the KSA just kill the other day again?
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Apr 25, 2019 15:16
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Raskolnikov38 posted:how much time is left on sasha's contract and aren't they just going to freeze it/add time to it if she's not at the shows She just re-upped recently. So years.
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Apr 25, 2019 15:18
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poo poo, the WWE stock’s already down 10 points on the day, might as well do some spring cleaning on the roster. Just let Harper go already, guys. Send Sasha packing and release some of the guys on NXT that will never be used.
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Apr 25, 2019 15:21
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Just going through the Observer and Dave lists the rosters as they stand now after the Shakeup & then further tinkering. Smackdown really has 1 face tag team, Heavy Machinery? I assume he's not included New Day because Big E is out for the time being but that's an unbalanced roster. He also said "If there wasn’t the doctrine not to book Anderson & Gallows, they could fill the void, and they still could." What on earth is that about?
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Apr 25, 2019 15:28
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Chris James 2 posted:In chart form This chart owns and I can't believe WWE publishes it every quarter
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forkboy84 posted:Just going through the Observer and Dave lists the rosters as they stand now after the Shakeup & then further tinkering. They've been pretty obvious about leaving when their contracts are up.
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Apr 25, 2019 15:30
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Aphrodite posted:She just re-upped recently. So years.
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pressedbunny posted:I don't understand why someone would re-sign if they were that unhappy with how they or anything else was being booked. From the sound of it Sasha has been disillusioned for the last couple of years; how much money did they throw at her feet to not just gently caress off when her then-current contract was up? They'd been jerking her around about maybe listening to her and doing the tag belts as a thing around then, and she did think that'd mean a big push because it's what her and Bayley tried for at least a year to get So she signed, then they finally did it, had them retain like once and then drop it at the biggest stage possible to move back down to the low-card
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Our guys aren’t employees, they’re contract workers!
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I don't get how wwe can allow you to sit out your contract. Does that not violate their end of the contract? Like isn't the whole point of having a contract that both parties will live up to their expectations? If you're not booking the person doesn't that give them the right to go elsewhere?
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The_Rob posted:I don't get how wwe can allow you to sit out your contract. Does that not violate their end of the contract? Like isn't the whole point of having a contract that both parties will live up to their expectations? If you're not booking the person doesn't that give them the right to go elsewhere? They have downside guarantees. WWE reserves the right to bury you for x amount of $.
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Aphrodite posted:They've been pretty obvious about leaving when their contracts are up. publicly or privately? because given how the WWE handles these things, they may be stuck here for a very long time.
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WWE would probably argue that as long as they keep paying them, they can pay them to sit at home. Vince has enough money that he can pay people to put them in a drawer for years. Given women’s average wrestling career length they may gamble that putting Sasha on the shelf for 2-3 years may finish her.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Better Woolie is now the Worst Woolie. Woolie was always the best.
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Can I just get the loving gasoline and matches now?!? Lacking that, where can I donate some cash for torches and pitchforks for the masses?
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Lmao that Goldust quietly slipping out the back door hosed over our beloved Lou Parper trying to exit out the front
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It seems obvious to me that maybe you shouldn't publicise that you've asked for your release until after its been approved? If not than WWE will just bury you and extend your contract to publicly save face. Like you'd think Harper and Sasha would learn from how Neville was treated. Like I understand it's effective if your goal is to make WWE look like the villain, but it's not super useful if it's putting your ability to work elsewhere in jeopardy if you're not planning to fight it in court. Harper seemed to be trying to leave on positive terms too. Dacap fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Apr 25, 2019 |
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Tomahawk posted:According to Meltzer WWE is not only not granting Luke Harper a release but is adding 6 months to his contract for the time he missed during wrist surgery jesus christ bet this does wonders for morale. harpers been nothing but a good soldier with the dumbass things they've done with him if theyve done anything at all.
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nooneofconsequence posted:They have downside guarantees. WWE reserves the right to bury you for x amount of $. is the downside enough to live on? cuz i'd just say gently caress it and sit at home until vince decides he doesnt want to write me checks anymore
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Aphrodite posted:They've been pretty obvious about leaving when their contracts are up. Makes sense given WWE wasn't booking them anyway. I don't suspect WWE downside money is good enough to waste years not even getting on TV when you're a big enough name outside that other promotions want you.
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My hot take: you shouldn't use racist or homophobic slurs, and if you do, you should sincerely apologize and try to be a better person.
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HidaO-Win posted:WWE would probably argue that as long as they keep paying them, they can pay them to sit at home. Vince has enough money that he can pay people to put them in a drawer for years. Given women’s average wrestling career length they may gamble that putting Sasha on the shelf for 2-3 years may finish her. Luckily she's an independent contractor and can find other work!
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Jackie D posted:Luckily she's an independent contractor and can find other work! i wonder what would happen if sasha or haper tried to go on jon oliver's show lol
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Dacap posted:It seems obvious to me that maybe you shouldn't publicise that you've asked for your release until after its been approved? If not than WWE will just bury you and extend your contract to publicly save face. Yeah, and people who have not gone public have also not been granted their release. The issue isn't staying quiet or not, the issue is whether the WWE think you can be of value to the competition. Or potential competition. Or potential distant number 2 that's not going to in anyway be competition but still offer enough of an alternative to drive wrestler pay up. Tye Dillinger & Goldust were deemed not that important. Raskolnikov38 posted:i wonder what would happen if sasha or haper tried to go on jon oliver's show lol Aside from the obvious answer of "really bad comedy because it's Jon Oliver's show", the WWE would probably stop it much like they stopped Undertaker & Angle from doing Starcast. If you've a contract with the WWE they even have control over your appearances. Which seems to run contrary to what an independent contractor is but hey, we all know that's bullshit.
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forkboy84 posted:Aside from the obvious answer of "really bad comedy because it's Jon Oliver's show", the WWE would probably stop it much like they stopped Undertaker & Angle from doing Starcast. If you've a contract with the WWE they even have control over your appearances. Which seems to run contrary to what an independent contractor is but hey, we all know that's bullshit. HBO has the money to dare WWE to sue them over it unlike conrad but i was thinking more if maybe vince would shitcan them if they reached out
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Raskolnikov38 posted:HBO has the money to dare WWE to sue them over it unlike conrad but i was thinking more if maybe vince would shitcan them if they reached out I liked the bit in the Wrestling Observer this week where Conrad is told he'll be offered a suitable replacement, and then said "OK, give me Vince, Stephanie or HHH and we can donate all revenue generated to their charity, Conor's Cure, and I'll match the donation so we double it." Which is funny as a windup which makes WWE look bad on the charity front when they inevitably turn it down if nothing else.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:HBO has the money to dare WWE to sue them over it unlike conrad but i was thinking more if maybe vince would shitcan them if they reached out I wonder if WWE would even try to start poo poo with HBO given that they're ultimately AT&T and could buy WWE with pocket change
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All it would take is one good lawyer willing to take on a wrestler's "WWE independent contractor" case pro bono, and I guarantee you that particular wrestler would be granted their release quicker than Kevin Dunn could do jump cuts between cameras.
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Anyone have investor call highlights? Only thing I’ve seen is that Vince said they’re gonna have a new beginning in September. That new beginning thing they do every 3-6 months never really seems to pan out
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Tomahawk posted:Anyone have investor call highlights? Only thing I’ve seen is that Vince said they’re gonna have a new beginning in September. That new beginning thing they do every 3-6 months never really seems to pan out The "new beginning" is the Fox stuff they think will fix everything Tiered Network keeps getting kicked down the road Barrios didn't deny that hour 3 of SD is being talked about No Saudi questions answered No update on TV in India and UK HHH says they don't take stars, they make stars Net loss of $8.4mil Network subs day after this Mania was down 6% compared to day after last Mania (both paid and free down year-over-year)
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Tomahawk posted:Only thing I’ve seen is that Vince said they’re gonna have a new beginning in September. That new beginning thing they do every 3-6 months never really seems to pan out Ah, taking a page out of the Marvel/DC handbook I see. Chris James 2 posted:HHH says they don't take stars, they make stars On what planet?
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