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Peacoffee posted:I want to say that was the one my friend had. I remember he got mad once when I took off the nacelle and pretended it was a sonic screwdriver. Never tell him about the time a spare nacelle for the Romulan Warbird model got a blinky light and a paint job, and became a handheld scanner. 
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:When I was a young lad I had an enterprise toy. Those came with a panel you could slot in where the stand plugged into, so you could play with it like a toy. I had the older -D that had four sound effect buttons (impulse, warp drive, phasers, torpedoes) and no battle damage... and somehow I wound up with another one that had just one button for voice clips. I also had the TOS Enterprise, the Enterprise-E, the Romulan Warbird, the Klingon Vor'cha-class cruiser, the Defiant.... oh yeah and that shuttlecraft you could stick the action figures into.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I also had the TOS Enterprise, the Enterprise-E, the Romulan Warbird, the Klingon Vor'cha-class cruiser, the Defiant.... oh yeah and that shuttlecraft you could stick the action figures into. I had both the multi-button D and the Generations battle-damaged D, the E, and the shuttlecraft. Also the transporter, and one Christmas I woke up to find the bridge playset with all the figures at their stations. I still maintain the best playset was the Engineering one that came out in the Generations toyline. Shame about the figures.
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The only playset I ever had was the Runabout and that thing ruled. It even had seatbelts!
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I'm finally doing a proper DS9 rewatch. I haven't actually watched the whole show through since it was first broadcast, and even then I know I missed a lot, especially in the later seasons. Time to fix that. I'm up to "The Storyteller". The only part here that actually works is the character stuff that presages the whole O'Brien/Bashir friendship. Their plotline down on Bajor with the cloud monster is never really properly explained or resolved and doesn't make a whole lot of sense to begin with. The other plotline up on DS9 is as basic as can be and might have benefited from some better acting, but at least Nog's joke with Odo's bucket landed pretty well, I thought.
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Just watched the DS9 documentary What We Left Behind. It's really good! Really great sense of humour, well made, season 8 should be made based on their writers' room and section 31 show canceled to pay for it. There's obviously a lot of life left in the show!
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Really? I thought their Season 8 pitch was by far the worst part of the doc and that Ira seems to have forgotten what he was up to at the end of 7 and didn't bother to fix that prior to the meet. To avoid spoilers: he has most people acting way out of character from where they could possibly be, even with 20 years passing, and thinks Bajor was a proud resistor of joining the Federation at the end instead of... calling it off temporarily during the war on Sisko's order to avoid a Dominion occupation. Worst of all he wants to shove S31 in everything because that's all people can think of these days I guess and still obsessed with Bajoran religion and wants it to be the centerpiece of everything. Practically nothing from the Season 8 pitch lined up with where the show came from or where it could plausibly have gone and it was a major bummer to watch in an otherwise solid documentary.
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Gorgo Primus posted:Really? I thought their Season 8 pitch was by far the worst part of the doc and that Ira seems to have forgotten what he was up to at the end of 7 and didn't bother to fix that prior to the meet. To avoid spoilers: he has most people acting way out of character from where they could possibly be, even with 20 years passing, and thinks Bajor was a proud resistor of joining the Federation at the end instead of... calling it off temporarily during the war on Sisko's order to avoid a Dominion occupation. Worst of all he wants to shove S31 in everything because that's all people can think of these days I guess and still obsessed with Bajoran religion and wants it to be the centerpiece of everything.  See also: Killing Nog for shock value because “this is DS9; you can’t get comfortable”. 
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There's an extremely fascinating split between who doesn't doesn't like the season eight pitch.
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So when (and where) is this documentary going to be viewable for those of us who didn't back it on Kickstarter and who can't see it in a cinema in the US?
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They sent out an email yesterday that they're going to offer additional streaming options for non-backers, after the theatrical release is finished, but no concrete details yet.
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Watched a few episodes of TOS. It's neat but dang is it whiplash going from the end of DS9 to that Pilot, to the first actual episode. Dumb question: What's the deal with that Pilot? Big Mean Jerk posted:
Oh gently caress that noise. I think some of my favorite parts of DS9 are the more "comfortable" parts. and I'm a real sucker for the trope of characters breaking the mold, I really like Rom and Nog.
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Oxyclean posted:Watched a few episodes of TOS. It's neat but dang is it whiplash going from the end of DS9 to that Pilot, to the first actual episode. CBS thought the series could work, but they didn’t actually like “The Cage” as an episode so they demanded some changes — they felt it was too slow with not enough action, and disliked Roddenberry casting his side piece as the female lead (or weren’t ready for a strong female lead of any sort, to hear Roddenberry tell it) — and ordered a second pilot, namely “Where No Man Has Gone Before”. Jeffrey Hunter (Captain Pike) wanted to be in movies instead, and he wasn’t under contract because the pilot had been rejected, so his character was replaced too. Thus only Spock was really left over for the second pilot. Then during the first season they ran out of episodes in the can and reused a lot of “The Cage” with a frame story as “The Menagerie”.
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skasion posted:CBS thought the series could work, but they didn’t actually like “The Cage” as an episode so they demanded some changes — they felt it was too slow with not enough action, and disliked Roddenberry casting his side piece as the female lead (or weren’t ready for a strong female lead of any sort, to hear Roddenberry tell it) — and ordered a second pilot, namely “Where No Man Has Gone Before”. Jeffrey Hunter (Captain Pike) wanted to be in movies instead, and he wasn’t under contract because the pilot had been rejected, so his character was replaced too. Thus only Spock was really left over for the second pilot. Roddenberry's wife is the computer voice in the rest of the series right? Thought the voice sounded familiar while watching The Cage. I think I liked The Cage more then Where No Man Has Gone Before. The focus on action kind shows on the latter. Also, I think the Netflix episodes are out of order or something? I saw "Where No Man Has Gone Before" but going by the episode list, I'm sure I didn't see "The Corbomite Maneuver" or "Mudd's Women" but I did see The Man Trap and Naked Time, and just started The Enemy Within.
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Oxyclean posted:Roddenberry's wife is the computer voice in the rest of the series right? Thought the voice sounded familiar while watching The Cage. The production order is all weird for like the first half of the season. But it also basically doesn't matter, they didn't expect them to be watched in order.
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Oxyclean posted:Roddenberry's wife is the computer voice in the rest of the series right? Thought the voice sounded familiar while watching The Cage. Yes, and also Nurse Chapel in TOS and Lwaxana in TNG/DS9. At the time she was just Gene’s mistress though — she married him between TOS and the movies. Oxyclean posted:Also, I think the Netflix episodes are out of order or something? I saw "Where No Man Has Gone Before" but going by the episode list, I'm sure I didn't see "The Corbomite Maneuver" or "Mudd's Women" but I did see The Man Trap and Naked Time, and just started The Enemy Within. Netflix has episodes in the order in which they originally aired, not that in which they were produced. Except for “The Cage” which didn’t air till years and years later so they just tack it onto the front.
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Pick posted:There's an extremely fascinating split between who doesn't doesn't like the season eight pitch. Which is?
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skasion posted:CBS thought the series could work, but they didn’t actually like “The Cage” as an episode so they demanded some changes — they felt it was too slow with not enough action, and disliked Roddenberry casting his side piece as the female lead (or weren’t ready for a strong female lead of any sort, to hear Roddenberry tell it) — and ordered a second pilot, namely “Where No Man Has Gone Before”. Jeffrey Hunter (Captain Pike) wanted to be in movies instead, and he wasn’t under contract because the pilot had been rejected, so his character was replaced too. Thus only Spock was really left over for the second pilot. CBS wasn't involved back then, it was NBC.
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Orv posted:You know I think Avery Brooks might've always been crazy. is he crazy now
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:is he crazy now Watch his segments from The Captains with Shatner and tell me he's not crazy, high as hell, or both
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I was looking at Memory Alpha earlier, specifically about planned/considered episodes that didn't get made, and get this: they were considering making a sequel to A Piece Of The Action during DS9, but didn't because the writers (specifically Ira) were disdainful of having the Iotians be hardcore TOS fans. The Fifty Year Mission wasn't lying when DS9 was described as the inmates running the asylum, were they? 
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They were afraid they'd get backlash from the fans.
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Ben Nerevarine posted:Watch his segments from The Captains with Shatner and tell me he's not crazy, high as hell, or both He might be crazy but he's also clearly trolling the gently caress out of Shatner.
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brookes probably did not feel like getting into heavy racial poo poo with william shatner so he just played piano at him until he left him alone
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:is he crazy now I mean I don't think he's full on loco crazy but he's always seemed way more into and playful as Sisko on DS9 than any of the other cast and every time I see something with him since he seems extremely relaxed with being weird. "Beets!"
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He's like a theater professor now so I'd imagine overall he's fairly mellow, but drat do I love how much he hammed it up with early Sisko
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Which is? Smart people don't like it
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Snow Cone Capone posted:He's like a theater professor now so I'd imagine overall he's fairly mellow, but drat do I love how much he hammed it up with early Sisko He's also well known for being very professional and devoted to acting as a craft. Apparently he was pretty disdainful of actors who wanted to be celebrities and big names or whatever.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I mean he willingly lives in New Jersey so maybe
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Nessus posted:Newark, Camden, and the entire filmography of the Jersey Shore are actually a bipartisan scheme to keep you mooks out of here so we can continue enjoying the dark fruits of Weird NJ. Like the tooth replacement fruit that grows in Orange, or Springsteen's necromantic rituals. I was born, raised and live in NJ and I'm really, really loving sick of Springsteen zombies
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galenanorth posted:They already used up the "shock value death" card with Jadzia Dax only two seasons before the season that's being pitched, and at least it was done in a way that seemed to make sense They killed a character 20 years ago because she left the show is a pretty weak argument against killing a character to start off a revival *eyes Discovery that's killed... 4 characters already?* It was a loving one day fast pitch, you guys are way too harsh. What we got, I'd watch.
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Pick posted:Smart people don't like it I’m genuinely curious what the reaction to it is outside these forums. It really felt like Ira and RDM and all the other writers had forgotten what made DS9 work in the first place and were just cribbing from other shows that had come since that don’t really fit the DS9 tone. I mean I know it’s all hypothetical and it was a one-off brainstorming session that wasn’t ever meant to be seen outside the doc, but it’s disappointing that the same guys who knocked it out of the park the first time around were so clueless in how to capture even an iota of that magic again.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:
This is DS9; you can't get comfortable because Quark won't splurge for the plushy bar stools
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Snow Cone Capone posted:This is DS9; you can't get comfortable because Quark won't splurge for the plushy bar stools Not true. Those come with an VIP premium.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:CBS wasn't involved back then, it was NBC. Actually, they were. Here's how it went down. "The Cage" was produced. CBS had first look rights with Desilu so it went there first. CBS rejected it because it was too similar to Lost in Space. They they shopped it to NBC who saw promise, but still didn't like the pilot but commissioned the second pilot of "Where No Man Has Gone Before."
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