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The whole time travel thing was broken from the moment ant man came out of the quantum realm. I mean who would have done the original snap if 2014 Thanos gets dusted in the future? Are we still spoilering?
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Shaocaholica posted:The whole time travel thing was broken from the moment ant man came out of the quantum realm. Apparently until Monday.
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May 3, 2019 20:25
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Shaocaholica posted:I mean who would have done the original snap if 2014 Thanos gets dusted in the future? 2014 Thanos is a duplicate created in a temporary universe by the time machine. Once all the stones are returned to that universe by Captain America, as explained by Tilda Swinton and reiterated at the end of the movie, the branch is trimmed. There is no future in that universe for Thanos to snap or not snap after that point because that branch has been eliminated.
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May 3, 2019 20:30
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Sir Kodiak posted:2014 Thanos is a duplicate created in a temporary universe by the time machine. Once all the stones are returned to that universe by Captain America, as explained by Tilda Swinton and reiterated at the end of the movie, the branch is trimmed. There is no future in that universe for Thanos to snap or not snap after that point because that branch has been eliminated. That's literally a paradox which is what I was saying originally which is every time travel movie that goes backwards.
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May 3, 2019 20:32
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Shaocaholica posted:The whole time travel thing was broken from the moment ant man came out of the quantum realm. Any time something is changed in the past, an alternate timeline is branched off and moves forward with that thing having changed. Prime timeline (the one we're watching) had the snap happen, there's no way to undo it. But now there is an alt-2014 timeline where Thanos & his army winked into a portal one day and were never seen again. Beaten, sorta.
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All of this is why... Nebula’s weird network functions or whatever opened the door that Thanos would have been brilliant enough and prepared that someone would seek to undo his plan and therefore stage resistance and safeguards to the stones being stolen. Which is what an evil genius powerful entity wild have thought of - but no.... RocketLunatic fucked around with this message at 00:44 on May 4, 2019 |
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May 3, 2019 21:23
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ruddiger posted:That actor plays a crazy eastern european hitman in HBO's Barry and he practically steals the drat show he's so good in it. Harton posted:Seriously he is hands down the best character on the show. Honestly I haven’t really started much of season 2 and he’s probably the only reason I’ll actually dig in one day and watch it. Every scene he’s in is just hilarious. I hope he gets more work. He's great.
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May 3, 2019 21:32
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Not analyzing or trying to reconcile the time travel nonsense is the only correct choice. It will just lead to a 12-24 month discussion morass.
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May 3, 2019 21:51
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May 3, 2019 21:54
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Just watched the movie and didn't someone on these dead gay forums predict this ending, with the exception of old Cap showing up and explaining what he'd done? The movie was good btw.
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May 3, 2019 21:54
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Sir Kodiak posted:2014 Thanos is a duplicate created in a temporary universe by the time machine. Once all the stones are returned to that universe by Captain America, as explained by Tilda Swinton and reiterated at the end of the movie, the branch is trimmed. There is no future in that universe for Thanos to snap or not snap after that point because that branch has been eliminated. Convenient. It's like magic.
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May 3, 2019 21:55
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FistEnergy posted:Not analyzing or trying to reconcile the time travel nonsense is the only correct choice. It will just lead to a 12-24 month discussion morass. Have you met us? People are still flinging poo poo over BvS.
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May 3, 2019 21:56
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Shaocaholica posted:Well nothing really makes sense in a superhero movie but this one just stands out to me is all because they tried to explain it and failed. Why did the restraints matter if Gort can just turn into a locust swarm and fly away?
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May 3, 2019 22:41
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FistEnergy posted:Not analyzing or trying to reconcile the time travel nonsense is the only correct choice. It will just lead to a 12-24 month discussion morass. Nah; it’s really not too complicated at all. There’s just the ambiguous bullshit exposition from Tilda Swinton that’s throwing people off.
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Wendell posted:Why did the restraints matter if Gort can just turn into a locust swarm and fly away? He was trolling them.
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May 3, 2019 22:47
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Shaocaholica posted:That's literally a paradox which is what I was saying originally which is every time travel movie that goes backwards. What's the paradox?
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I don't know if this is really spoiler-worthy, but re-watching GoTG2 this afternoon really made me wish the Ravagers made a cameo when all the snapped people came back. Just a good old-fashioned "hey, so, everything between us and you is going to be lit up, s'cool?" spectacle.
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May 3, 2019 22:58
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RocketLunatic posted:All of this is why... Fixed for you i hope
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MisterBibs posted:I don't know if this is really spoiler-worthy, but re-watching GoTG2 this afternoon really made me wish the Ravagers made a cameo when all the snapped people came back. Just a good old-fashioned "hey, so, everything between us and you is going to be lit up, s'cool?" spectacle. There were ravagers walking out of the portals, it was really easy to miss them though
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May 3, 2019 23:29
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Howard the duck comes through too and rapes one of the alien attackers.
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May 3, 2019 23:33
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Shaocaholica posted:Howard the duck comes through too and rapes one of the alien attackers. I actually don't know of this is a joke.
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JBP posted:I actually don't know of this is a joke. It’s not a joke, they’re already talking about a more explicit version of the scene as an extra for the blu-ray.
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Imagine you're on a flight from London to New York, and all of a sudden half the people around you turn to dust. As people begin pounding on the door to the cockpit, you realize you're fated to crash once the autopilot finally runs out of fuel. Imagine looking up from the news on your phone to see a silent airliner bearing down on you. Imagine you're on the same flight, you feel extremely unwell, then you and half the passengers are free falling from 30,000 ft over the ocean.. How did JohnnySavs fucked around with this message at 00:24 on May 4, 2019 |
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May 4, 2019 00:02
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JohnnySavs posted:Imagine you're on a flight from London to New York, and all of a sudden half the people around you turn to dust. As people begin pounding on the door to the cockpit, you realize you're fated to crash once the autopilot finally runs out of fuel. Please no real world talk here please.
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May 4, 2019 00:03
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JohnnySavs posted:Imagine you're on a flight from London to New York, and all of a sudden half the people around you turn to dust. As people begin pounding on the door to the cockpit, you realize you're fated to crash once the autopilot finally runs out of fuel. Tony didn't do the snap, Hulk did. The closest-to-a-happy ending answer is that they ended up reappearing on the ground somewhere because Hulk thought of that, though the people who died in the crash/aftermath are kind of screwed. The sad answer is "welp, those people represent a relative minority of the disappeared folks so they're pretty hosed."
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May 4, 2019 00:05
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JohnnySavs posted:Imagine you're on a flight from London to New York, and all of a sudden half the people around you turn to dust. As people begin pounding on the door to the cockpit, you realize you're fated to crash once the autopilot finally runs out of fuel.
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JohnnySavs posted:Imagine you're on a flight from London to New York, and all of a sudden half the people around you turn to dust. As people begin pounding on the door to the cockpit, you realize you're fated to crash once the autopilot finally runs out of fuel. Before Hulk does the snap there's a line of dialogue where he's talking to Stark where he says something like "Bringing everybody who vanished five years ago back today safely" (emphasis mine), so maybe he did account for that and if people would have come back in a dangerous way, they come back a slight distance away in a place that's safe? This is just me extrapolating a lot from one word.
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What if you got shot right before the snap and then you come back but with the same wound.
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JohnnySavs posted:Imagine you're on a flight from London to New York, and all of a sudden half the people around you turn to dust. As people begin pounding on the door to the cockpit, you realize you're fated to crash once the autopilot finally runs out of fuel. The Earth is moving around the Sun, the Sun moves around the galactic core and so on. so unless the second snap moves people to some degree, everyone comes back into vacuum
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Hallucinogenic Toreador posted:The Earth is moving around the Sun, the Sun moves around the galactic core and so on. so unless the second snap moves people to some degree, everyone comes back into vacuum This is how the time travel must work as well, as not only do they travel in time, they must move in space as well (e.g. War Machine returns from whatever planet from GotG 1 to upstate New York and so on with the rest as well). So I guess Stark invented teleportation] as well.
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May 4, 2019 00:29
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Hallucinogenic Toreador posted:The Earth is moving around the Sun, the Sun moves around the galactic core and so on. so unless the second snap moves people to some degree, everyone comes back into vacuum That would imply an absolute frame of reference though.
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YaketySass posted:That would imply an absolute frame of reference though. Allow me to rephrase: wherever people are brought back, their position relative to some objects will have changed, therefore there is no point in complaining that one of the objects is the earth rather than the sun, the galactic core or anything else
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May 4, 2019 00:47
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Hallucinogenic Toreador posted:Allow me to rephrase: wherever people are brought back, their position relative to some objects will have changed, therefore there is no point in complaining that one of the objects is the earth rather than the sun, the galactic core or anything else If it's the Earth, which isn't more arbitrary than the galactic core or anything else, this isn't a problem.
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May 4, 2019 00:54
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I can imagine the dragon balls are somewhat intelligent about granting wishes.
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May 4, 2019 03:16
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Well yea they have a talking sentient dragon that grants them.
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Another important aspect of this movie: New Jersey finally gets its due as the setting of an epic fantasy battle.
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