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Away all Goats posted:Why is it bullshit? It’d be like me saying Christians can’t critique Schindler’s List. It’s bigoted and stupid.
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May 5, 2019 21:42
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Steve2911 posted:She said we need to hear more WOC critics in the space rather than the same old white male voices and she was 100% correct. They were talking about what she said not what you think she said you disingenuous shitstain.
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May 5, 2019 21:42
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Zane posted:if different group experiences are entirely self-enclosed and impossible to at least somewhat bridge through the medium of language then no one can intrinsically understand anyone, all communication is pointless, and everything is a war to the death. Lmao that owns
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May 5, 2019 21:46
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Super Deuce posted:No. She said she doesn’t want to hear what a white man has to say because it wasn’t for him. That’s bullshit. It’s a very clear distinction. Oh yes, the billion-dollar superhero movie isn't "for" white guys.
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May 5, 2019 21:47
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Zane posted:if different group experiences are entirely self-enclosed and impossible to at least somewhat bridge through the medium of language then no one can intrinsically understand anyone, all communication is pointless, and everything is a war to the death. Thats the good poo poo.
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May 5, 2019 21:47
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what is wrong with you people, lol
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MrFlibble posted:They were talking about what she said not what you think she said you disingenuous shitstain. “I don’t want to hear what a white man has to say about ‘A Wrinkle in Time.’ I want to hear what a woman of color or a biracial woman has to say about the film. I want to hear what teenagers think about the film.” (note: a wrinkle in time. not captain marvel. this was from a press day for AWIT.) this isn't about who gets to write, it's about who brie larson listens to. “About a year ago, I started paying attention to what my press days looked like and the critics reviewing movies. I noticed it appeared to be overwhelmingly white male.” (from a marie clare interview about CM) Are you saying she's wrong and that press days aren't white male? also, can you point to anything objectionable here?
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awesmoe posted:here are some things she said. if you have others you'd like to discuss please, find some quotes! No, I agree with it all. Which...I believe the RLM people also did? After talking about how awkward her phrasing was. Which I mean, hey, I can think of a way to phrase it better but then again I am not a woman of colour, a biracial woman or a teenager so what do I know. MrFlibble fucked around with this message at 21:54 on May 5, 2019 |
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May 5, 2019 21:52
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MrFlibble posted:They were talking about what she said not what you think she said you disingenuous shitstain. She's said more than one thing. She's been quoted on one hyperbolic statement but she's said a lot surrounding it you anal dirge.
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May 5, 2019 21:55
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MrFlibble posted:No, I agree with it all. Which...I believe the RLM people also did? After talking about how awkward her phrasing was. Which I mean, hey, I can think of a way to phrase it better but then again I am not a woman of colour, a biracial woman or a teenager so what do I know. Then why is she a raging feminist if you agree with what she said?
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May 5, 2019 21:55
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awesmoe posted:here are some things she said. if you have others you'd like to discuss please, find some quotes! Yes. It doesn’t matter what she thinks is “for” someone. It’s mass entertainment and even if it wasn’t, white men can have perspective. Anyways, what kind of poo poo story can only be appreciated by a specific subgroup of humanity? Again it isn’t relevant what movie she’s talking about. It’s nonsense. Can non Jews critique Schindler’s list? Or even A Serious Man which I’d argue is more of the “Jewish experience”?
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May 5, 2019 21:56
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Super Deuce posted:Yes. It doesn’t matter what she thinks is “for” someone. It’s mass entertainment and even if it wasn’t, white men can have perspective. Anyways, what kind of poo poo story can only be appreciated by a specific subgroup of humanity? Again it isn’t relevant what movie she’s talking about. It’s nonsense. What on earth are you talking about?
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May 5, 2019 21:56
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Their issue was less her message and more that Brie Larson seems smug and insufferable, iirc
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Super Deuce posted:Yes. It doesn’t matter what she thinks is “for” someone. It’s mass entertainment and even if it wasn’t, white men can have perspective. Anyways, what kind of poo poo story can only be appreciated by a specific subgroup of humanity? Again it isn’t relevant what movie she’s talking about. It’s nonsense. Cry me a loving river over the erasure of white male voices. VVV Are you loving serious?
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May 5, 2019 21:57
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socialsecurity posted:Then why is she a raging feminist if you agree with what she said? Because anyone trying to exclude others shouldn’t be placed on a societal pedestal regardless of what group they come from?
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May 5, 2019 21:57
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awesmoe posted:here are some things she said. if you have others you'd like to discuss please, find some quotes! People who get mad about Brie Larson are uniformly trash and this forum is no exception. Steve2911 posted:Cry me a loving river over the erasure of white male voices. This times 1000, and I'm a white male. Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 22:00 on May 5, 2019 |
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May 5, 2019 21:57
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It's time to break the wheel y'all!
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Steve2911 posted:Cry me a loving river over the erasure of white male voices. Never said anything about caring whether white men disappear or not. I do care if anyone pushes out other voices simply because of their skin color and genitalia. It’s weird how this is okay. She was wrong to say what she said. If she left it as “I wish there were more critiques from different backgrounds” not “white men can’t talk about this”. They aren’t the same thing.
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May 5, 2019 21:59
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^^ this is dangerously close to "why can't white people say the n-word??"Steve2911 posted:Cry me a loving river over the erasure of white male voices. the fragile white male will always cry when faced with the idea no one cares about whatever shithead opinions they want to scream into the void
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May 5, 2019 21:59
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socialsecurity posted:Then why is she a raging feminist if you agree with what she said? No? I said that referring to the RLM crew having ideas about the way Brie Larson phrased her response being outside the feminist norms being shocking as something comical (hence lol they're not raging feminists) I haven't actually called anyone a raging feminist as far as I can tell.
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Super Deuce posted:Never said anything about caring whether white men disappear or not. I do care if anyone pushes out other voices simply because of their skin color and genitalia. It’s weird how this is okay. She was wrong to say what she said. If she left it as “I wish there were more critiques from different backgrounds” not “white men can’t talk about this”. They aren’t the same thing. Its about mens rights in movie journalism
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TheRat posted:Its about mens rights in movie journalism I think it’s just about a vapid human trying to create more barriers instead of knocking them down.
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May 5, 2019 22:01
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Super Deuce posted:Never said anything about caring whether white men disappear or not. I do care if anyone pushes out other voices simply because of their skin color and genitalia. It’s weird how this is okay. She was wrong to say what she said. If she left it as “I wish there were more critiques from different backgrounds” not “white men can’t talk about this”. They aren’t the same thing. She didn't say they couldn't you idiot she said that she doesn't want to hear their opinions because she rightfully doesn't give a gently caress about what they have to say.
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May 5, 2019 22:01
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I'm glad people are fighting back against the repressive whims of Brie Larson who somehow has total control over who gets to criticize movies
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I didn't think this thread could get worse than Arya loving yet here we are.
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nooneofconsequence posted:I didn't think this thread could get worse than Arya loving yet here we are. This is more entertaining as there was more build up
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Super Deuce posted:Never said anything about caring whether white men disappear or not. I do care if anyone pushes out other voices simply because of their skin color and genitalia. It’s weird how this is okay. She was wrong to say what she said. If she left it as “I wish there were more critiques from different backgrounds” not “white men can’t talk about this”. They aren’t the same thing. Do you actually imagine that somehow we're facing a dark future where there are no white male movie reviewers? Truly an Orwellian hellscape that we're not even remotely near.
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nooneofconsequence posted:I didn't think this thread could get worse than Arya loving yet here we are. This is more entertaining than the episode tbh
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Super Deuce posted:It’s weird how this is okay. She was wrong to say what she said. If she left it as “I wish there were more critiques from different backgrounds” not “white men can’t talk about this”. Weird how she didn't say the second one at all.
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pseudanonymous posted:Do you actually imagine that somehow we're facing a dark future where there are no white male movie reviewers? Truly an Orwellian hellscape that we're not even remotely near. Even if it were true they'd just start a bunch of terrible podcasts
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Bearded YouTube fatsos have suffered far too long under the oppressive yoke of Brie Larson.
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DrNutt posted:Even if it were true they'd just start a bunch of terrible podcasts A bunch more you mean.
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The Cap Marvel review has a p good throughline with the RLM bois thinking it's silly that people get all up in their feels trying to make mass appeal big budget blockbusters some weird war on sexism, and courting those controversies for publicity, as well as an easy way to brush off criticism of the end product. They discuss this kinda stuff in the GB'16 and Wonder Woman reviews as well. Mostly the dunking on Larson was due to her not seeming like a v pleasant person overall from what I remember. They make some p dumb jokes, but for middle aged white dudes in the midwest I'd say they are p liberal dudes and certainly not chuds.
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May 5, 2019 22:04
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Steve2911 posted:Weird how she didn't say the second one at all. No but she implied opinions other then White Males matter and therefore she must be taken down, anyone who disagrees with this is just upset they aren't raging feminists.
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May 5, 2019 22:06
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pseudanonymous posted:A bunch more you mean. 
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May 5, 2019 22:06
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Don't you all see that this infighting is exactly what the white walkers want
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May 5, 2019 22:15
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Why are the last 60 posts about some cheese actor from a movie and not about an actor from the cheesy TV show to which this thread is dedicated?
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Zudgemud posted:Why are the last 60 posts about some cheese actor from a movie and not about an actor from the cheesy TV show to which this thread is dedicated? Not everyone has seen the new leaked episode yet and people are being polite?
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Tellah posted:Don't you all see that this infighting is exactly what the white walkers want They're being replaced with the Cyan Sprinters
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