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Aside from monster closets and pitch blackness doom 3 is indeed more fun than baby sitting that loving airboat and buggy in hl2
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May 9, 2019 21:15
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Half-Life 2 was an amazing game and is way better than Doom 3. One of the very few games where you actually feel like having traveled some distance at the end. Too bad we Half-Life fans aren't even worth an explanation of what happened with Episode 3 to Gaben.
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May 9, 2019 21:42
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May 9, 2019 22:02
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BFG Edition of Doom 3 finds a happy (optional) middle ground with the lighting and will let you do the duct tape mod out of the box. The monster closets never really bothered me since Doom 1 was lousy with them. It also runs at 60 fps, which does wonders for what that game is doing graphically. HL2 just aged like yogurt in a car trunk.
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May 10, 2019 00:44
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Doom 3 being bad but good shadows fueled the next 20 years of my life’s search for bad games with good shadows.. anyways here we are
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May 10, 2019 00:46
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Doom 3 for Xbox also cut the escort mission and some other of the worst stretches of the game so its not a totally fair comparison but still Doom 3 is way better than Half-Life 2.
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May 10, 2019 00:59
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Lambert posted:Half-Life 2 was an amazing game and is way better than Doom 3. One of the very few games where you actually feel like having traveled some distance at the end. I completely agree. But most people that feel this way right now are deep in their 30s and experienced hl2 when the idea of what an FPS was and could do was totally different. The FPS genre has seen so much growth and evolution now that, today, hl2 is quite a bland game. Don’t get me wrong, the writing and settings still hold up, but it’s better in the past. When all we had was 2d sprites in doom and wolfenstein, and tie fighter, half-life hit stores??I’ll never forget how amazing it was to play it. It was just simply mind blowing what it was accomplishing as a medium. When half-life 2 came out it was even better. The portal games were a great digression into the rest of that universe, too. They spurned off a whole genre of FPS puzzle games that are still alive today. I honestly think what happened to hl3, was that the FPS genre evolved so fast because of hl2, that by the time they had it together to actually start making it it was already being trounced by the far more complex and intricate FPS/RPG-lite games flooding the market and evolving the genre further. Hl3 would’ve been seen as “generic” and too simple. Gabe saw this and worried it would fail and it never went forward.
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May 10, 2019 03:30
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Beastie posted:Wish Orange Box had some X enhancements. No way in hell it will get them but it would be cool if HL2 ran at 60fps. Orange box is X enhanced, but like the other enhanced 360 games it’s just to bump the resolution up to 4K
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May 10, 2019 03:35
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Half-Life 3 doesnt exist because Valve lacks the corporate structure necessary to make it exist.
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May 10, 2019 03:36
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Blind Rasputin posted:I completely agree. But most people that feel this way right now are deep in their 30s and experienced hl2 when the idea of what an FPS was and could do was totally different. The FPS genre has seen so much growth and evolution now that, today, hl2 is quite a bland game. Don’t get me wrong, the writing and settings still hold up, but it’s better in the past. Hl2's popularity in its day giving rise to the great creativity in source engine should not be used as evidence of its bad, gimmicky campaign being actually good. It did things quite well that up to that point had only been done extremely poorly (jp trespasser physics puzzles lol) but the gameplay does not hold up vs its contemporaries imo as a guy older than you. Its just not fun.
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May 10, 2019 03:39
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Blind Rasputin posted:I honestly think what happened to hl3, was that the FPS genre evolved so fast because of hl2, that by the time they had it together to actually start making it it was already being trounced by the far more complex and intricate FPS/RPG-lite games flooding the market and evolving the genre further. Hl3 would’ve been seen as “generic” and too simple. Gabe saw this and worried it would fail and it never went forward. What happened to HL3 is that Valve stopped making games because Steam is way more profitable
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May 10, 2019 04:08
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How do you follow up stuff like HF or L4D? The sequels to L4D and Portal were really good. I don't fault them for getting stumped on where to go next. But it's been long enough that someone could've given them an idea.
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May 10, 2019 04:20
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Valve tried to add hats to Portal 2 and when those didn't take off they retreated to more profitable poo poo.
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May 10, 2019 04:30
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Half life 2 does not have 'excellent writing' lol its so sparse that I cant even remember what it was about and by the end of it I was so ready for the game to be over. like it had the G-man or whatever and some people hiding out forming a resistance? honestly I cant remember a thing about it and was so uninterested in the story itself that I never bothered with Episode 1 or 2 because Id had my fun with the mechanics of the game in HL2. admittedly I never played HL1 but I get the gist of it. Doom 3 was a far better FPS that I wish ran better on my PC at the time so I could have enjoyed it. it is not a perfect game by any stretch but Id are way more capable of making a fun FPS than Valve. HL2 online deathmatch was cool tho.
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May 10, 2019 05:16
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Half-Life 2 was pretty good, as was HL1, but Black Mesa (the HL1 remake in Source) is better than either of them (though it's probably still not finished). Also, Portal is better than the Half-Life franchise. It would be cool to see a Portal 3.
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May 10, 2019 09:24
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Barudak posted:Half-Life 3 doesnt exist because Valve lacks the corporate structure necessary to make it exist. This is the most accurate reason. Valve since Portal 2 leaned HARD to the storefront, leaving the other parts completely empty. Even if one or two guys start working on something like HL3, they will get no backup at all and Gaben is not kind of letting another studio touch the IP. If Respawn wasn't so tied to EA right now, it would be the perfect studio to make it. They made an awesome custom source engine to fit Titanfall 1/2 and Apex. As much as I like HL2, on a 360, Doom 3 BFG is the superior choice imo. You get base game, the expansion and the original games plus No Rest for the Living wich is a fantastic WAD. I still plan on getting an Orange box from somewhere just for the sake of owning the DVD.
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:Valve tried to add hats to Portal 2 and when those didn't take off they retreated to more profitable poo poo. I remember at the time even thinking "who the gently caress is going to pay for cosmetics in a game you finish once or twice and never touch again for years?" Granted, that was before the introduction of workshop maps, but still. Wonder what those sales figures looked like lmao
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May 10, 2019 17:44
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In retrospect I have fonder memories of Half Life 1 than Half Life 2. Half Life 2 has its moments (revolutionary physics and that one spooky level) but I feel like Half Life 1 is a much more cohesive and complete game.
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Laserface posted:Half life 2 does not have 'excellent writing' lol its so sparse that I cant even remember what it was about and by the end of it I was so ready for the game to be over. like it had the G-man or whatever and some people hiding out forming a resistance? honestly I cant remember a thing about it and was so uninterested in the story itself that I never bothered with Episode 1 or 2 because Id had my fun with the mechanics of the game in HL2. admittedly I never played HL1 but I get the gist of it. HL2: They need to get Gordon out of the city and to the resistance because the Combine are looking for him. Why specifically him? Cause they mad. Also G-Man seems to be some third party moving between time and space. The episodes are even better. 1 has you evacuating City 17 as the citadel goes critical. Gordon and Alex decide to stay behind to buy survivors more time. 2 you're rushing to a silo to see if you can launch a missile that will make it to the combine home world via a hacked portal code. It also sets up what was going to happen in Episode 3, which would have tied in Portal and HL together. 3 would be Gordon and Alex running to the Borealis, an entire ship that vanished from Aperture Science. But yeah HL Deathmatch was a loving blast back in my high school LAN party days.
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May 10, 2019 17:52
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Half Life’s writing was only good on the premise that they’d flesh more out later, everything was just tantalizing breadcrumbs.
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Tiny Tubesteak Tom posted:I remember at the time even thinking "who the gently caress is going to pay for cosmetics in a game you finish once or twice and never touch again for years?" Granted, that was before the introduction of workshop maps, but still. Wonder what those sales figures looked like lmao The Portal 2 coop campaign was pretty great as well. And there was PS3 - PC crossplay! I played with a friend, him on PC, me on my PS3.
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May 10, 2019 18:00
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I’m replaying Witcher 3 with an xbox one x and new TV, and the game looks so good with it running at 60fps with HDR. I wish I had this during my first playthrough which was about 400 hours.
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May 10, 2019 19:10
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ChocNitty posted:I’m replaying Witcher 3 with an xbox one x and new TV, and the game looks so good with it running at 60fps with HDR. I wish I had this during my first playthrough which was about 400 hours. Witcher 3 on X is good because for the dialog heavy quests you can switch it to 4k, and for the combat quests you just pause and switch to 60fps.
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May 10, 2019 19:42
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A year or so before HL2 came out, I was joking that Valve would never make it. It had been a long time since HL1 and there was absolutely no news on a sequel. Then they surprised everyone by announcing it right before it came out. My memory might be a little fuzzy on the specifics but it was something like that. Anyways, I had hoped that they would do the same for HL3 but it's been 15 years and they got rid of everyone that worked on the Half-life series by now so it'll probably never happen.
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May 10, 2019 19:57
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Orange Box has a sweet dev commentary mode that runs on Portal and the HL games. Really interesting to hear them talk about tweaking the lighting after watching play testers get lost or confused. Wish more games had that.
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Nullsmack posted:A year or so before HL2 came out, I was joking that Valve would never make it. It had been a long time since HL1 and there was absolutely no news on a sequel. Then they surprised everyone by announcing it right before it came out. My memory might be a little fuzzy on the specifics but it was something like that. Anyways, I had hoped that they would do the same for HL3 but it's been 15 years and they got rid of everyone that worked on the Half-life series by now so it'll probably never happen. ??? HL2 was announced at E3 (May) in 2003, and was released November 2004. I recall it clearly because between those two dates a chunk of an early build of the game leaked in a somewhat-playable form and gaming internet was full of screenshots and reports from people bragging about having it and getting it to run. There was a year of hype fueled by people mining that leak.
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acksplode posted:??? HL2 was announced at E3 (May) in 2003, and was released November 2004. I recall it clearly because between those two dates a chunk of an early build of the game leaked in a somewhat-playable form and gaming internet was full of screenshots and reports from people bragging about having it and getting it to run. There was a year of hype fueled by people mining that leak. It was stolen by some hacker who got mightily owned by his government
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Nullsmack posted:A year or so before HL2 came out, I was joking that Valve would never make it. It had been a long time since HL1 and there was absolutely no news on a sequel. Then they surprised everyone by announcing it right before it came out. My memory might be a little fuzzy on the specifics but it was something like that. Anyways, I had hoped that they would do the same for HL3 but it's been 15 years and they got rid of everyone that worked on the Half-life series by now so it'll probably never happen. Your memory is extremely wrong. It was going to come out like 5 months after they did their announce/reveal in PC Gamer but they were nowhere near finished and, even worse, never bothered delaying until after the date. There was this feeling that it wasn't coming out when the date was getting close but no "yeah it's not done." The big revelation from the hack and theft was that the game was definitely nowhere near finished. Took another year to actually release.
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Real hurthling! posted:It was stolen by some hacker who got mightily owned by his government God drat all this stuff seems like a lifetime ago. Oh poo poo it was half my life ago.
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ixnay posted:Orange box is X enhanced, but like the other enhanced 360 games it’s just to bump the resolution up to 4K That alone is typically enough to make major changes to some of these games. Especially the original Xbox games.
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May 10, 2019 20:53
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Beastie posted:God drat all this stuff seems like a lifetime ago. Dammit, lowtax. Stop letting kids register for the forums.
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Management structure and changed expectations in the FPS arena aside, what really stole Valve's attention long-term was VR. Once they got their hands on it there was no going back to traditional storytelling. I just hope they finally release some real content for the Index.
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The best part of HL1 and HL2 were the mods that spawned off their engines
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:the state of xbox in 2019 Not much to say till E3 rolls around. If you want a spicy opinion though: I have almost zero interest in the future of xbox, MS's continued apathy towards franchises it owns that aren't Gears, Forza, and Halo has driven my interest in the next gen into the ground. Unless they waltz out and announce a FASA revival I think I'm out next gen.
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I think expectations are theyll show Ninja Theory's new thing, more of the obsidian stuff, and possible whatever game the Forza people are working on. Some people believe theyll buy even more studios to announce there which, fine, but they need to show games. Also please buy the devs of Operencia and force them to make sequels for me forever.
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