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So guys when Kami and Popo collected the six dragon balls during the middle section of the Frieza saga and and brought Guru back to life was it the actual Guru or a fake mirror universe Guru?
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May 13, 2019 01:06
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Also can someone explain why the gently caress Captain America not being able to move on after 60 something years or other and get another girl is supposed to be attractive or endearing? It's loving not. It's not romantic or sweet or anything. It's creepy stalker "nice guy" territory. Most superheroes have more than one love interest. Does Rogers not have more than one love interest in the comic book?
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May 13, 2019 01:12
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ThanosWasRight posted:Also can someone explain why the gently caress Captain America not being able to move on after 60 something years or other and get another girl is supposed to be attractive or endearing? It's loving not. It's not romantic or sweet or anything. It's creepy stalker "nice guy" territory. Most superheroes have more than one love interest. Does Rogers not have more than one love interest in the comic book? You know he only experienced like nine of those years, right?
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May 13, 2019 01:14
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Gianthogweed posted:But there are degrees of unethicality. Right, your claim is that the more similar you are to a person, the more ethical it is to harm them - because you are ‘spectrally aligned’. Which it totes nutso.
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May 13, 2019 01:14
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ThanosWasRight posted:Also can someone explain why the gently caress Captain America not being able to move on after 60 something years or other and get another girl is supposed to be attractive or endearing? It's loving not. It's not romantic or sweet or anything. It's creepy stalker "nice guy" territory. Most superheroes have more than one love interest. Does Rogers not have more than one love interest in the comic book? I mean to be fair his 40s brain is probably incapable of processing the Internet and he's only been out of the ice like a few years? It is crazy how everyone in the MCU except Tony Stark is an incel or volcel though. I guess Ant Man fucks.
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May 13, 2019 01:15
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Hawkeye has a family. Thor and Sif probably did stuff. Wanda and Vision were a thing.
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May 13, 2019 01:17
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I really wish they hadn't cut the subplot of Fortnite Thor trying to turn Hulk onto the r/theredpill.
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May 13, 2019 01:18
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I think Peggy having his picture on her desk in 1972 is important.
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May 13, 2019 01:18
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porfiria posted:I mean to be fair his 40s brain is probably incapable of processing the Internet and he's only been out of the ice like a few years? Cap's just old fashioned. He's monogamous and is saving himself for marriage.
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May 13, 2019 01:20
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ThanosWasRight posted:Also can someone explain why the gently caress Captain America not being able to move on after 60 something years or other and get another girl is supposed to be attractive or endearing? It's loving not. It's not romantic or sweet or anything. It's creepy stalker "nice guy" territory. Most superheroes have more than one love interest. Does Rogers not have more than one love interest in the comic book? Captain America was not awake and conscious for all of those years and shockingly people actually do feel sad and miss people for a lengthy period of time especially when they have genuinely very little time to attempt a new life. (Cap went from being unfrozen to the Avengers to finding out Shield was Nazis and that his best friend was alive after seemingly being dead to Avengers 2: Electric Boogaloo to Civil War to Infinity War to 5 years of weird despair to Endgame. The closest he had to a normal life in that time frame was working for Shield between Avengers and Winter Soldier.)
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May 13, 2019 01:23
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euphronius posted:I think Peggy having his picture on her desk in 1972 is important. Also can someone explain why the gently caress Peggy Carter not being able to move on after 30 something years or other and get another guy is supposed to be attractive or endearing? It's loving not. It's not romantic or sweet or anything. It's creepy stalker "nice girl" territory. Most secret agents have more than one love interest. Does Carter not have more than one love interest in the comic book? Beep boop Ate My Balls Redux fucked around with this message at 01:30 on May 13, 2019 |
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May 13, 2019 01:28
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teagone posted:Wanda and Vision were a thing. Do you guys think Vision finds the "don't date robots" episode of Futurama problematic?
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May 13, 2019 01:29
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A near-decade of celibacy, then dating Peggy’s descendant, then more celibacy, then creating and marrying a duplicate of Peggy - this all points to some kind of severe pathology.
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May 13, 2019 01:35
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Also can someone explain why the gently caress Peggy Carter not being able to move on after 30 something years or other and get another guy is supposed to be attractive or endearing? It's loving not. It's not romantic or sweet or anything. It's creepy stalker "nice girl" territory. Most secret agents have more than one love interest. Does Carter not have more than one love interest in the comic book? It is really loving weird. It makes no sense. People move on.
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May 13, 2019 01:40
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ThanosWasRight posted:It is really loving weird. It makes no sense. People move on. It's almost like they lived in an age where people buried their feelings rather than deal with them
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May 13, 2019 01:41
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Right, your claim is that the more similar you are to a person, the more ethical it is to harm them - because you are ‘spectrally aligned’. No, that's not what I'm saying. I feel like I'm arguing with my cousin Kevin. Spectrum refers to degrees of something. For example when people say they're on the autism spectrum they mean that there are degrees of autism. Slightly autistic is in the asperger's area, and there are more extreme levels of autism that are further along on the spectrum, which is where we're approaching in this conversation. But I was referring to spectrums of identity and how much someone is the "same person". So if Captain America were to go back in time 2 minutes and meet himself, that version of himself would be almost identical. On the identity spectrum he would be very close to being the same person. But if he were to go back 10 years, the version of himself he encounters would more different from himself. On the spectrum of identity, he would be further away from being the same person, but would still have a lot of similarities. If he were to go back 20 or 30 years, the version of himself he encounters would be so far away from being the same person on the spectrum of identity that he would be a completely different person. The question of ethics is completely separate from this argument. When Captain America got into a fight with his slightly younger self, it didn't seem that unethical since his slightly younger self could defend himself and put up a good fight. It had nothing to do with him being closer to older Cap on the identity spectrum. Cap fights people who can defend themselves all the time and we don't see it as unethical. If he had gone back and fought a baby version of himself that would have been seen as unethical, not because he was further away on the identity spectrum, but because a baby can't defend itself. If Cap punched any baby we would have thought he was an rear end in a top hat. The spectrum has nothing to do with it.
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May 13, 2019 01:44
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ThanosWasRight posted:It is really loving weird. It makes no sense. People move on. And sometimes you meet this guy that helped punch out Meganazis and it's hard for anyone to rival that. And sometimes people overlook that his affection for Peggy can also be taken as a stand in for America's fixation on The Better Times.
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May 13, 2019 01:45
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Iron Man 4: A grieving Pepper dates a series of the MCU’s ubiquitous Dark Versions Of Tony Stark (including J. Hammer in a cameo appearance), before just deciding to create & marry a robot duplicate made out of the Vision tech.
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May 13, 2019 01:48
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euphronius posted:I think Peggy having his picture on her desk in 1972 is important. Wonder what her husband (if he wasn't always time-looped Cap like the writers say) thinks of that. Speaking of the time-loop cap theory (it's stupid but bear with me), Sharon spoke at Peggy's funeral. She clearly knew her great Aunt. Did she also know her great uncle (cap) then? Was Sharon Carter sexually attracted to her great uncle? hosed up if so. For this reason, people should ignore the time-loop poo poo the writers say, that way lies madness. Although incest porn is popular for some reason, so maybe they are just being topical. And there is no way Peggy reacts positively to Cap macking on her great niece (see cap 1 with the Natalie Dormer scene), so cap probably omitted that, meaning her consent is not fully informed.
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May 13, 2019 01:57
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Gianthogweed posted:I was referring to spectrums of identity and how much someone is the "same person". So if Captain America were to go back in time 2 minutes and meet himself, that version of himself would be almost identical. On the identity spectrum he would be very close to being the same person. But if he were to go back 10 years, the version of himself he encounters would more different from himself. On the spectrum of identity, he would be further away from being the same person, but would still have a lot of similarities. If he were to go back 20 or 30 years, the version of himself he encounters would be so far away from being the same person on the spectrum of identity that he would be a completely different person. Anyway now you’re just saying obvious things like Peggy A and B are similar to eachother, & it’s bad to punch a baby. But your argument was that the Peggies are so similar that they are, y’know, close enough: essentially the same (i.e. not the same).
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May 13, 2019 02:14
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:A near-decade of celibacy, then dating Peggy’s descendant, then more celibacy, then creating and marrying a duplicate of Peggy - this all points to some kind of severe pathology. btw: https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1127665517597265921 I guess we know why Capt. America didn't march with King or whatever, too busy banging his relatives.
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May 13, 2019 02:14
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:btw: I like how this basically tells me "oh Civil War meant absolutely nothing" between Cap making out with whatever her name was and the flip phone (that was the closing cliffhanger to that whole entire film, the question of would and when would Tony use that phone) being literally tossed off to Bruce and the call made off screen at the beginning of IW. Because if it meant anything, someone mentioning this would go "... oh wait he made out with his own granddaughter, she wanted to bang him and he was maybe considering it, and his buddies gave him bro nods for it."
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May 13, 2019 02:21
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ThanosWasRight posted:It is really loving weird. It makes no sense. People move on. I feel like making that account to say that is some level of hyper-irony that most people aren't equipped to handle.
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May 13, 2019 02:21
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:btw: Lmao. Yikes about Sharon then. CAPTAIN INCEST.
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May 13, 2019 02:25
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Shoulda never added agent whatever’s character in the first place. Totally useless. It reminds me of the RLM thing where characters have to have some kind of love interest so they don’t come off as gay or whatever, because lord knows we can’t have that!
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May 13, 2019 02:29
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Like if we're talking about how the mechanics of time travel making no sense are fine as long as you do these grace notes or whatever -- what the gently caress happened there?
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May 13, 2019 02:30
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The replies to that tweet have some many fans in denial. Sad.
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May 13, 2019 02:30
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CelticPredator posted:Shoulda never added agent whatever’s character in the first place. Totally useless. Part of how they've been dicking over his character since the first one is giving him multiple surrogate mom figures/platonic babe BFF's that only really exist to show you Cap is not gay! It's such an absurd problem to back yourself into and this is what you end up with.
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May 13, 2019 02:32
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teagone posted:Lmao. Yikes about Sharon then. CAPTAIN INCEST. Sharon Carter is Peggy's Great-Niece. There is literally no biological connection between them. It's still kinda weird but he wasn't hitting on his granddaughter.
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May 13, 2019 02:33
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ImpAtom posted:Sharon Carter is Peggy's Great-Niece. There is literally no biological connection between them. It's still kinda weird but he wasn't hitting on his granddaughter. So, step-siblings and step-parents/children are 100% ok to bang then? No biological connection! Family ties are about more than blood dude.
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May 13, 2019 02:38
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"Screw history!" - Steve Rogers
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May 13, 2019 02:40
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Part of how they've been dicking over his character since the first one is giving him multiple surrogate mom figures/platonic babe BFF's that only really exist to show you Cap is not gay! It's such an absurd problem to back yourself into and this is what you end up with. It’s always been my issue with the Russo Cap films. We don’t need a love interest! He has four! Peggy, Sam, Bucky and Natasha! He don’t need to bone any of them.
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May 13, 2019 02:40
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Counterpoint, he and Bucky should just seal the deal.
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May 13, 2019 02:42
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garycoleisgod posted:So, step-siblings and step-parents/children are 100% ok to bang then? No biological connection! They are which is why this is a stupid argument. Captain America had no family ties to her at all.
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May 13, 2019 02:45
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I’d be fine with that. At least Bucky is a character
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May 13, 2019 02:45
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ImpAtom posted:They are which is why this is a stupid argument. Captain America had no family ties to her at all. Yes I know, but I'm ragging on the writers who didn't seem to understand that by making Cap Peggy's husband all along, they created a family tie between Cap and Sharon (even if not related by blood) so that means he made out with his own grand niece. Not the sharpest tools in the shed those two. And it's still weird that he made out with his true love's great niece.
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May 13, 2019 02:47
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garycoleisgod posted:Yes I know, but I'm ragging on the writers who didn't seem to understand that by making Cap Peggy's husband all along, they created a family tie between Cap and Sharon (even if not related by blood) so that means he made out with his own grand niece. Not the sharpest tools in the shed those two. Okay? Like I'm not saying it's not weird but it's not "CAPTAIN AMERICA BANGS HIS RELATIVES." It is more akin to a weird hosed up time travel version of "dating a woman's sister before you married her." Which can be a bit weird but I don't think anyone is suddenly yelling that person hosed his sister or whatever.
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May 13, 2019 02:49
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ImpAtom posted:Sharon Carter is Peggy's Great-Niece. There is literally no biological connection between them. It's still kinda weird but he wasn't hitting on his granddaughter. Come on, don't try to justify Cap flirting with and making out with his niece or great niece or whatever. The writers should have just kept that poo poo to themselves really.
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May 13, 2019 02:51
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RBA Starblade posted:"Screw history!" - Steve Rogers Literally. 
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teagone posted:Come on, don't try to justify Cap flirting with and making out with his niece or great niece or whatever. The writers should have just kept that poo poo to themselves really. How am I justifying it? I feel like you're rushing to yell Incest in a way that makes no sense. I'm not saying it's cool but there's a significant difference between those things and it's kinda hosed up to call it incest because a lot of people met their actual wife/husband through someone they were seeing at the time. That's the thing that bugs me because you're saying quite a few real-world people are Literally Incestuous and that's weirdly offensive. Also didn't you earlier say that you didn't think Steve was the same person? By your logic he didn't do that at all. He made out with someone completely unrelated to him. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 02:57 on May 13, 2019 |
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