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Is this real? At some point it starts to feel like satire, but then again... *waves hands at everything going on right now*
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I loved First Class and I think it’s the best of the X-Men films, so I don’t really understand why it got a bunch of praise when it first came out and now everyone’s forgotten it exists.
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May 14, 2019 15:33
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Pirate Jet posted:I loved First Class and I think it’s the best of the X-Men films, so I don’t really understand why it got a bunch of praise when it first came out and now everyone’s forgotten it exists. There have been so many superhero movies since then.
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May 14, 2019 16:29
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Detective No. 27 posted:There have been so many superhero movies since then. True, but even amongst the X-Men movies. Everyone’s like “aw yeah X2 and DOFP! gently caress First Class tho” and I’m like 
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May 14, 2019 17:20
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There's a lot of corny stuff in First Class but Matthew Vaughn gives no fucks and the cast is great so it works.
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May 14, 2019 17:26
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First Class fuckin' owns. My favorite ridiculous thing in it is, I mean I know who the guy is in the comics but just going by the movie itself, uh, some kind of dapper Satan is around and Emma Frost can whistle whenever she needs him to teleport someone somewhere for her?  They killed Darwin though and that they killed Darwin and the way it was done will forever mar and otherwise very good movie.
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May 14, 2019 18:06
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First Class really does own, and Kevin Bacon is amazing in it. I just wish Emma Frost was played by anyone else. She has negative charisma in that movie (I never watched Mad Men, so I have no idea how she is in anything else). I swear to god, I think they killed the character in between movies so they had an easy excuse to not have to use her again.
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May 14, 2019 18:09
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I like First Class because apart from 5 second Wolverine cameo it's completely it's own film and separate from the increasingly convoluted X-Men movies. It felt really fresh and different at the time, I really liked the 60s aesthetic, and I loved it.
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May 14, 2019 18:27
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CityMidnightJunky posted:I really liked the 69s aesthetic  Also, nice
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May 14, 2019 18:33
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First Class was a period piece with superheroes and that was enough to set it apart at the time. The idea that Chuck fucks up the first team he assembles is good and close to comics accurate too. But the sequel pretty much said "Yeah gently caress all that noise, just remember the big points" so it's not surprising it's been forgotten.
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May 14, 2019 18:57
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Well, it was also taken over by Bryan Singer, and he wanted to go back to making Bryan Singer X-Men movies. Days of Future Past is pretty good (and I like that take on Quicksilver), although it's not anywhere near as stylized or fun as First Class. Apocalypse is a shitshow, but I liked the casting for Scott Summers, Jean Grey, young Storm, and Nightcrawler. Also, Oscar Isaac is no Ivan Ooze.
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May 14, 2019 20:13
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thrawn527 posted:First Class really does own, and Kevin Bacon is amazing in it. I just wish Emma Frost was played by anyone else. She has negative charisma in that movie (I never watched Mad Men, so I have no idea how she is in anything else). I swear to god, I think they killed the character in between movies so they had an easy excuse to not have to use her again. Did they kill Emma Frost, though? I know they killed Insect Girl and Not Nightcrawler's Dad from the pictures Mystique looks at in DOFP but I'm extremely bad at catching Easter eggs like that, it seems. I googled what happened to Banshee and apparently it was mentioned somewhere in DOFP that he was killed and I'm like ??? Anyway, Havoc lives and that's all that matters.
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May 14, 2019 21:06
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Grendels Dad posted:Did they kill Emma Frost, though? I know they killed Insect Girl and Not Nightcrawler's Dad from the pictures Mystique looks at in DOFP but I'm extremely bad at catching Easter eggs like that, it seems. I googled what happened to Banshee and apparently it was mentioned somewhere in DOFP that he was killed and I'm like ??? https://xmenmovies.fandom.com/wiki/Emma_Frost quote:Erik mentions that Emma Frost, along with Azazel and Angel Salvadore, had been killed in 1963 and blames Charles for their deaths. She was most likely among those experimented on and killed by Bolivar Trask, since Mystique seeks revenge on Trask and a Sentinel is shown to use her powers.
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May 14, 2019 21:10
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Oh right, Magneto mentioned her, thanks. I wouldn't have connected that back to Trask or the Sentinels, those seemed to have pretty generic countering powers. I guess I assumed that Frost was just killed in a nondescript mission and then quickly forgot.
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Dark Phoenix kinda makes no sense to me as a follow up to Apocalypse. It just seems like a rehash of Apocalypse crossed with a rehash of X3, two disappointing movies nobody gives a gently caress about. Is it a science experiment to see exactly how blatantly we can get Jennifer Lawrence to phone it in?
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May 14, 2019 21:58
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The real question is why do they keep letting Bryan Singer come back.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:The real question is why do they keep letting Bryan Singer come back. He's not directing it?
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May 14, 2019 22:18
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He's not even producing anymore. Dark Phoenix is Simon Kinberg making his debut as director.
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May 14, 2019 22:33
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For some reason I thought he was but I still think my question is a valid one.
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May 14, 2019 22:40
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The worst part about the X-Men prequels is how the further the series gets along, the more they lose being stylized for the decade they are supposed to be in. First Class trying to copy a 60s Bond aesthetic, Days of Future Past made less effort but the movie (in the past parts) generally felt like the 70s, then Apocalypse poo poo the bed and kind of referenced the 80s but really missed what the previous 2 (especially First Class) films were doing with their eras. Can't wait for Dark Phoenix to reference the 90s with a pop song and not much else. If they aren't going to do more than reference pop culture, they should have the next film set a decade later. Especially when they don't make effort to have the actors look 10 years older than the previous film.
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Spacebump posted:The worst part about the X-Men prequels is how the further the series gets along, the more they lose being stylized for the decade they are supposed to be in. First Class trying to copy a 60s Bond aesthetic, Days of Future Past made less effort but the movie (in the past parts) generally felt like the 70s, then Apocalypse poo poo the bed and kind of referenced the 80s but really missed what the previous 2 (especially First Class) films were doing with their eras. Lazier than Captain Marvel on that front is my guess.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:For some reason I thought he was but I still think my question is a valid one. His two movies were profitable. However, I think Jennifer Lawrence signed on for another movie specifically because Singer wasn't involved.
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May 15, 2019 04:21
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Rewatching Homecoming and I now agree with everyone about their complaints with Tony mentoring Pete.
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May 15, 2019 04:37
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Bogus Adventure posted:His two movies were profitable. Both her contract and Fassbender's were up after Apocalypse, and Lawrence in particular had been vocal about hating both the makeup and the low pay (Fox struck gold by signing them to three-movie deals just before they got huge, Lawrence in particular). Occam's Razor suggests that they agreed because Fox dumped a truck full of cash on their front doors, and in Lawrence's case agreed to simplify her makeup even more and also be written out of the movie 15-20 minutes into it.
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May 15, 2019 04:47
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Timby posted:Both her contract and Fassbender's were up after Apocalypse, and Lawrence in particular had been vocal about hating both the makeup and the low pay (Fox struck gold by signing them to three-movie deals just before they got huge, Lawrence in particular). Occam's Razor suggests that they agreed because Fox dumped a truck full of cash on their front doors, and in Lawrence's case agreed to simplify her makeup even more and also be written out of the movie 15-20 minutes into it. There's a long and illustrious history of good actors getting paid heaps of money to not give a poo poo about comic book movies
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May 15, 2019 06:04
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Spacebump posted:Can't wait for Dark Phoenix to reference the 90s with a pop song and not much else.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:For some reason I thought he was but I still think my question is a valid one. He's only had one outright flop since going full studio journeyman with X-Men, and it's Jack The Giant Slayer, which god only knows why that movie was made in the first place (yes, I know, it's 100% because of Alice in Wonderland being a billion-grosser). Otherwise he pulls in a solid near half a billion to almost a billion every time he puts something out at this point. Like, somehow, despite the absolute garbage end product, Bohemian Rhapsody broke $900 million worldwide. No, I don't get it either, I didn't think that people were clamoring that bad for the dumbest version of the Queen story.
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May 15, 2019 06:21
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Timby posted:Both her contract and Fassbender's were up after Apocalypse, and Lawrence in particular had been vocal about hating both the makeup and the low pay (Fox struck gold by signing them to three-movie deals just before they got huge, Lawrence in particular). Occam's Razor suggests that they agreed because Fox dumped a truck full of cash on their front doors, and in Lawrence's case agreed to simplify her makeup even more and also be written out of the movie 15-20 minutes into it. I saw this when I double-checked whether Singer was involved in Dark Phoenix: https://www.newsarama.com/37682-no-singer-no-chaos-on-x-men-dark-phoenix-set-says-lawrence.html quote:According to Lawrence, she made the right decision - and feels "more connected to her character than ever before" - because the set of X-Men: Dark Phoenix was markedly different from her previous experiences making X-Men films, which she described to Entertainment Weekly as "fun amidst chaos."
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Singer threw a chair at Halle Berry on the set of X2 (or threw a chair at the ground within "bouncing" distance of Halle, depending on the story) and was known for screaming rage fits if things went wrong or time was running low on the day, if people are wondering about stories of on-set behavior that isn't "he's trying to gently caress a teenage boy instead of make the movie he's being paid to make". He's a nasty little poo poo of a person who gets pretty tyrannical unless there's someone who can put him in his place on set. He was evidently absolutely a perfectly good boy making Valkyrie - on set, anyway - but then again, his lead actor was also his producer and could fire him without even stepping away from his mark if Singer stepped out of line; and in the end, Cruise ended up clicking with writer Chris McQuarrie instead, as evidenced by making three more movies with him and zero more with Singer.
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May 15, 2019 06:42
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The Cameo posted:Singer threw a chair at Halle Berry on the set of X2 (or threw a chair at the ground within "bouncing" distance of Halle, depending on the story) and was known for screaming rage fits if things went wrong or time was running low on the day, if people are wondering about stories of on-set behavior that isn't "he's trying to gently caress a teenage boy instead of make the movie he's being paid to make". I love that McQuarrie got so many gigs. It was going to be tragic for 'The Way of the Gun' to be his only directing credit.
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May 15, 2019 12:12
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The Cameo posted:Singer threw a chair at Halle Berry on the set of X2 (or threw a chair at the ground within "bouncing" distance of Halle, depending on the story) and was known for screaming rage fits if things went wrong or time was running low on the day, if people are wondering about stories of on-set behavior that isn't "he's trying to gently caress a teenage boy instead of make the movie he's being paid to make".
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May 15, 2019 14:41
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I thought worst of all was raping kids.
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May 15, 2019 15:41
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No its definitely the Magneto theme thing
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May 15, 2019 20:05
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Bedshaped posted:I thought worst of all was raping kids. Guess what music he did it to?
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May 15, 2019 20:20
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Guess what music he did it to? Surprisingly the theme from Gremlins
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May 15, 2019 20:30
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Guess what music he did it to? X Gon’ Give it to Ya?
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Doom Patrol finally did it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm3x0HWHQBc
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May 16, 2019 01:10
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The only problem I have with Doom Patrol is that they'll never cross over with Legends of Tomorrow.
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The MSJ posted:Doom Patrol finally did it! OMG Flex Mentallo
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Edward Mass posted:The only problem I have with Doom Patrol is that they'll never cross over with Legends of Tomorrow. Berlanti is producing it, so there's a teeny tiny chance...
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