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Seriously, what the gently caress. The far right wing has dominated everywhere (except Portugal).
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punk rebel ecks posted:Seriously, what the gently caress. The far right wing has dominated everywhere (except Portugal). Germany?
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punk rebel ecks posted:Seriously, what the gently caress. The far right wing has dominated everywhere (except Portugal). Germany, Netherlands, Spain, Portugal are all going to the left. The projections are not exactly encouraging, though: 
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May 27, 2019 01:16
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double nine posted:You know ... if CD&V truly is a centrist party, it should be as comfortable working with the left as with the right ... which would make this a possiblity: It'd be electoral suicide for CD&V to enter a coalition with the PvdA. You'd have a right wing Flemish government continuously bashing on the communist federal government and in 5 years we'll see N-VA/VB get over 50% combined. Unless a centrist/green/socialist/extreme socialist government ends up working well and making everything better for everyone.
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May 27, 2019 05:54
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punk rebel ecks posted:Seriously, what the gently caress. The far right wing has dominated everywhere (except Portugal). Why are you surprised?
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May 27, 2019 07:11
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punk rebel ecks posted:Seriously, what the gently caress. The far right wing has dominated everywhere (except Portugal). It doesn't seem to have done THAT well though? It added 8 seats but the Greens got over twice that. The big winner seems to ALDE who look like business oriented centrists which sucks but this could have been a lot worse.
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May 27, 2019 09:11
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una mattina, mi son svegliato,
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May 27, 2019 10:35
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Wouldn't say the right wing massively won this. In some countries they had to take some nasty hits and seeing how other parties lost voter support, their gain was rather small.
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May 27, 2019 10:36
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right won, but left won more is the preferable take - https://twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski/status/1132913995604779009
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May 27, 2019 10:46
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If you are counting S&D in the left you should count EPP in the right.
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May 27, 2019 10:53
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double nine posted:right won, but left won more is the preferable take - soc-dems aren't left wing, left wing parties lost seats
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May 27, 2019 10:55
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true, I guess.
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May 27, 2019 10:55
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YF-23 posted:If you are counting S&D in the left you should count EPP in the right. and ECR and probably ALDE too
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May 27, 2019 10:55
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nimby posted:It'd be electoral suicide for CD&V to enter a coalition with the PvdA. You'd have a right wing Flemish government continuously bashing on the communist federal government and in 5 years we'll see N-VA/VB get over 50% combined. Theoretically we could have a VLD/CD&V/SP.a/Groen/PVDA rainbow coalition in the flemish parliament. Realistically it's even less likely than that proposed federal coalition unfortunately
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May 27, 2019 11:17
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double nine posted:right won, but left won more is the preferable take - That's an idiotic take. If S&D are left wing, then EPP and ALDE are right wing and that means the right has almost two thirds of the parliament. And otherwise, the hard right has 170 seats and the GUE/NGL has 38.
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May 27, 2019 12:08
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punk rebel ecks posted:Seriously, what the gently caress. The far right wing has dominated everywhere (except Portugal). There's no such thing as the 'far right' in Ireland. We don't even have a word for it. this is not an invitation
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May 27, 2019 12:22
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So uh, are the Slovak nazis going to revive the old Golden Dawn EU group?
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May 27, 2019 12:30
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so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
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Bedshaped posted:There's no such thing as the 'far right' in Ireland. We don't even have a word for it. There are Casey, GoD, and you can include Aontu and Renua on the same spectrum, I feel. Thankfully they are mostly rejected.
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May 27, 2019 12:42
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Bedshaped posted:There's no such thing as the 'far right' in Ireland. We don't even have a word for it. Ireland is in an interesting place where two of the three largest parties are center right, but they're both quite milquetoast right compared to most other EU ones. Speaking of Ireland, I guess the green Growth has been at the expense of Sinn Fein? That Italian Guy fucked around with this message at 13:03 on May 27, 2019 |
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May 27, 2019 12:57
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Retarded Goatee posted:So uh, are the Slovak nazis going to revive the old Golden Dawn EU group? I don't think golden dawn were ever in a group ? Unless I'm wrong.
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May 27, 2019 12:58
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Kurtofan posted:I don't think golden dawn were ever in a group ? Unless I'm wrong. You are correct, it was these psychos that they were affiliated with: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_for_Peace_and_Freedom
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May 27, 2019 13:16
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An insane mind posted:Welp, I voted left and european friendly for all the good it'll do. Apparently turnout is abysmal where I am. I had a bet with a friend that we'd see <50% turnout so I guess I owe him a beer now. Final counting is underway in Sweden, but preliminary result have the left block (S, V, MP, FI) losing 3 seats, going from 11 to 8 . The right block (M, C, L, KD) gained 2 seats, from 7 to 9. The far right SD gained 1 seat, from 2 to 3.   ( M and KD: EPP. C and L: ALDE. S and FI: S&D. V: GUE/NGL. MP and PP: EFA. SD: ECR )
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May 27, 2019 13:22
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In Croatia a rather symmetric result. 4 seats old school right, 4 old school left. 1 new right, 1 new left. 1 uneducated anti-establishment, 1 educated anti-establishment. It's seen as a poor performance of the old school right because domestically they've been kicking the old school left (main opposition) for years and were expected to win easily. Doctor Malaver fucked around with this message at 14:43 on May 27, 2019 |
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May 27, 2019 14:28
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That Italian Guy posted:Ireland is in an interesting place where two of the three largest parties are center right, but they're both quite milquetoast right compared to most other EU ones. Speaking of Ireland, I guess the green Growth has been at the expense of Sinn Fein? By and large, SF had a pretty poor election (both euros and simultaneous locals) - a lot of the Greens success has been pinned on an outstanding performance from one of their candidates in a televised debate and the growth of the climate issue. The party itself is v centrist historically (and was part of the FF coalition government during the financial crisis). Predictable the government has immediately signalled movement on climate issues and talk of an FG/Green coalition has picked up, a local green and black variant. There's already increased talk about a general election now within the next few months, previously punting that till after Brexit was the preferred option. kustomkarkommando fucked around with this message at 14:45 on May 27, 2019 |
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May 27, 2019 14:34
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cebrail posted:That's an idiotic take. If S&D are left wing, then EPP and ALDE are right wing and that means the right has almost two thirds of the parliament. And otherwise, the hard right has 170 seats and the GUE/NGL has 38. Also ECR is definitely right-wing, it's basically the traditional right-wing, just not far-right. EPP is more centrist as a whole. e: That said if left includes Greens then things haven't gotten worse from the last elections for the left. And the right-wing did shrink it's overall seat share, EPP included. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 15:01 on May 27, 2019 |
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May 27, 2019 14:39
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Private Speech posted:Also ECR is definitely right-wing, it's basically the traditional right-wing, just not far-right. PiS, Sweden Democrats, Tories, UUP, Fratelli d'Italia are all on the far right, much closer to the literal nazis of the ENF than to the more traditional conservatives in the EPP.
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May 27, 2019 14:53
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goethe42 posted:PiS, Sweden Democrats, Tories, UUP, Fratelli d'Italia are all on the far right, much closer to the literal nazis of the ENF than to the more traditional conservatives in the EPP. Fair enough I was looking at it from a brit perspective.
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May 27, 2019 15:05
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Yeah the Tories are the outlier because they're the only mainstream conservative party that's Anti-EU.
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May 27, 2019 15:28
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Austrian government just fell. Good, gently caress those fascists.
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May 27, 2019 15:59
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cebrail posted:Yeah the Tories are the outlier because they're the only mainstream conservative party that's Anti-EU. Ahem. They're both anti-EU and pro-EU, depending who you ask at which time of day. This is yet another example of satirical demands of Die PARTEI being irresponsibly implemented by actual politicians.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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cebrail posted:Yeah the Tories are the outlier because they're the only mainstream conservative party that's Anti-EU. But they're an outlier due to their size, not their politics, if even half of what is posted in the UKMT-thread is true. At least the more prominent ones like Bojo the Clown, Leadsom, Hunt, Gove, JRM etc. would much better fit into Lega, RN, AfD or FPÖ and their ilk than CDU/Les Republicaines/ÖVP, which would already be bad enough.
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May 27, 2019 16:23
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Junior G-man posted:Austrian government just fell. Good, gently caress those fascists. Is there any reason to believe that the next government won't be ÖVP-FPÖ again? FPÖ losses weren't that big, and the ÖVP gained quite a bit (presumably ex-FPÖ voters), so they will probably still have a majority after the next elections?
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May 27, 2019 16:33
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Torrannor posted:Is there any reason to believe that the next government won't be ÖVP-FPÖ again? FPÖ losses weren't that big, and the ÖVP gained quite a bit (presumably ex-FPÖ voters), so they will probably still have a majority after the next elections? Unfortunately not. Any other majority seems unlikely at this point (except for a grand coalition, which won't happen as long as Kurz leads the ÖVP). So get ready for Schwarz-Blau 2: Nazi Bugaloo in autumn.
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May 27, 2019 19:10
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i know social democrats are worthless and all but have they really not managed to capitalise on "the government literally tried to criminally subvert the state in favour of foreign plutocrats"
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May 27, 2019 19:57
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V. Illych L. posted:i know social democrats are worthless and all but have they really not managed to capitalise on "the government literally tried to criminally subvert the state in favour of foreign plutocrats" search your feelings you know the social democrats will always fail
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May 27, 2019 20:35
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V. Illych L. posted:i know social democrats are worthless and all but have they really not managed to capitalise on "the government literally tried to criminally subvert the state in favour of foreign plutocrats" We're living in the Weimar Republic.
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May 28, 2019 11:11
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Osmosisch posted:We're living in the Weimar Republic.
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May 28, 2019 12:49
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For the sake of comparison, here's a map of median earnings per household in Paris in 2011 (blue = higher, red = lower): Tl;DR: Macron's the president of the rich.
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May 28, 2019 13:35
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Basically what happened is that the traditional conservative party voters switched to macron, at least in urban areas. another graph vote per age in french elections  yellow s macrons party, green is greens, blue is conservative, brown is fn, red is melenchons party, pink is socialist (liberal centrist), grey is others. LR is in trouble with regard to the age of its voters
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