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It's just unfortunate that p3's are the best solution available because in a perfect world they'd be poo poo-tier. If you've got someplace where the system is broken aid or loans are just going to get stolen or misappropriated. At least with a p3 you get some kind of results, typically. It's still bullshit because the private sector ends up getting rich off everyone's money and the results are typically far below what a functioning crown corporation could deliver.
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working in development loving sucks, now more than ever. even the best laid plans might fail because of the loving climate. we're all very much aware of how hosed the situation is and we're trying to find solutions wherever we can, using the mechanisms that we have available, all while the ship is sinking and the global right tries to gently caress us at every juncture
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in p3 solution, in order to get the -private side of the partnership interested, there needs to be a return. a profit motive. what is the ROI on a refugee camp? do they become entitled to some kind of sales tax or residency/property tax or fees? do they get a monopoly on a price-gouging commissary?
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May 29, 2019 14:17
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baw posted:also worth noting that these represent a small (and relatively well-off) minority of refugees. the vast majority flee on foot to regional safe haven countries where they are condemned to rot in camps. which is why one potentially fruitful concept (formulated by alexander betts and paul collier) is to support public-private partnership projects in regional safe havens which could lead to a win-win situation for refugees and haven countries. at least until it stops raining in the haven countries then well let’s just take this one day at a time ok i call it “the Democrats”!
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StabbinHobo posted:in p3 solution, in order to get the -private side of the partnership interested, there needs to be a return. a profit motive. returns aren't necessarily financial. sometimes you can get money just by letting you list them as a partner and providing them some nice video and photos of smiling african kids that they can slap their logos on and put in airports. other times they work just like any other investment in a start-up, a cut of profits or interest the business loan. as an example, here are the projects that the opes impact investment fund are currently involved with, with things from reusable menstruation pads produced by local women to water distilled and bottled in kenya at a fraction of the average cost that most kenyans pay. there is a lot of variety and every case is different and has to be catered to local needs and most of the time the businesses are already in operation but just need additional capital in order to expand. there have been some very good results but of course the climate is changing so that is wreaking havoc with the risk assessment that goes more than five years into the future, and it's only going to get worse, and the last goddamn thing an investor wants to hear is "risk factors with leptokurtic and non-gaussian probability distributions"
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proud to announce our partnership to turn refugees into wifi hotspots
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integrate refugees into the blockchain
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some good news from early info coming out of the next IPCC report New Report Warns Planet May Be Warming Twice as Fast as Expected quote:Climate sensitivity in the 2007 IPCC report was 2-4.5°C. In the latest IPCC climate sensitivity report in 2013, this changed slightly to 1.5-4.5°C. Both give a best estimate of basically 3°C. Of the new modeling, preliminary results show eight out of the 13 models, with this latest most robust round of modeling ever coming in with a best estimate of 5°C or more climate sensitivity — an astonishing finding that modelers are challenged to explain.
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Does that mean 5 C warming, or is "climate sensitivity" a different measurement?
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5C, 10C, 16C, you name it we're gonna see just how many Cs we can squeeze outta this thing!
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Maha posted:Does that mean 5 C warming, or is "climate sensitivity" a different measurement? It's a parameter called ECS or Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity. It basically says "if we double the concentration of CO2 by how much do temperatures increase?" And, as usual, the answer is more than expected. Note that these models need much further testing to believe these ranges they're throwing out, but they are definitely in line with paleoclimate responses to CO2 injection I'm Earth's history.
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Shima Honnou posted:5C, 10C, 16C, you name it we're gonna see just how many Cs we can squeeze outta this thing! i love cs, give me more Cs, I want them all. Cspam Co2 C3po keep em coming
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Gitro posted:i love cs, give me more Cs, I want them all. Cspam Co2 C3po keep em coming Don't worry folks I'll 'C' myself out hahaha
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https://twitter.com/kulmweatherman/status/1132991763164139521?s=19
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Wakko posted:some good news from early info coming out of the next IPCC report Numbers going down? Totally unaccountable statistical anomaly. Bonuses all around, and we'll workshop improving next quarter. Complications has issued a correction as of 18:41 on May 29, 2019 |
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May 29, 2019 18:37
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:How about a spooky group of people, you can call them Spectres, who are going to provide actual help Ah, Yes,  Global Climate Change - the accelerating degradation of our natural biosphere and likely downfall of modern society... We have dismissed that claim.
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these are some fun hashtags https://twitter.com/kulmweatherman/status/1133468583571406849?s=19
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StabbinHobo posted:in p3 solution, in order to get the -private side of the partnership interested, there needs to be a return. a profit motive. it's unimaginable that there could be a way to help refugees or the climate that doesn't also make the number go up
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Thinking about the mountains of CO2 expelled building, shipping, trucking, and assembling largely empty NYC eyesores. Numbers must go up!
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look I'm gonna just say who could possible have foreseen all the things oh wait. all the experts did. .... I mean I guess words mean things.
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I prefer P33 solutions myself
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StabbinHobo posted:in p3 solution, in order to get the -private side of the partnership interested, there needs to be a return. a profit motive. you can use low skill 3rd world labour to make things like shoes like they are doing now in factories, except in the camps the labourers are given food by somebody else so you can pay even lower wages
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And Who could have possibly foreseen all these things? There is an Answer It was KARL MARX who foresaw all these things
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private-public partnerships are fine and good. successful guillotine operation requires both a rope puller and a head loser.
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very big neoliberal brain - what about having the SEZs in the west and moving the population therequote:Talia Radford: Why did you leave the UN? https://www.dezeen.com/2015/11/23/refugee-camps-cities-of-tomorrow-killian-kleinschmidt-interview-humanitarian-aid-expert/
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/may/29/energy-department-molecules-freedom-fossil-fuel-rebranding https://twitter.com/ryanlcooper/sta...fuel-rebranding somebody's got some freedom gas in this elevator right now iykwim
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The cool part about this is right this very second there are people who shrug at the whole crop failure from all that land turning into a sea thing and go "we'll just import it it'll be fine", but without stopping to take a second and think about what we do when the foreign farmlands get hit by whatever random weather and become, IDK, a massive never-ending fire or a desert or sink into the ocean or flash-freeze 11 months of the year because the polar winds don't care about boundaries anymore or whatever else happens to them.
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Shima Honnou posted:The cool part about this is right this very second there are people who shrug at the whole crop failure from all that land turning into a sea thing and go "we'll just import it it'll be fine", but without stopping to take a second and think about what we do when the foreign farmlands get hit by whatever random weather and become, IDK, a massive never-ending fire or a desert or sink into the ocean or flash-freeze 11 months of the year because the polar winds don't care about boundaries anymore or whatever else happens to them. well at least the majority of corn isn't even used for food or livestock, it gets turned into gasoline because thanks W
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Trabisnikof posted:well at least the majority of corn isn't even used for food or livestock, it gets turned into gasoline because thanks W yeah from the doomsday economics thread it's less than 4%, and i'm presuming 99%% out of that 4% is turned into industrial poo poo like high-fructose corn syrup which we could easily do without or even a fraction of a penny more in costs. its all feed and ethanol. worst thing it'll do is instead of paying $0.01 per ton of corn feed to fatten up cattle on the cheap, it might cost $0.02 and beef price might raise very slightly. but feeding nothing but corn to cows is loving lovely and leads to major issues with infections (which have to be pumped up with antibiotics) and methane production n poo poo. like the whole thing is totally manageable and the industry has almost zero purpose in even existing. Tulip posted:Not quite that sharp. Xaris has issued a correction as of 05:35 on May 30, 2019 |
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Most likely corn is only gonna be the start of it, and it's gonna be lol when the most disposable crop industry in this country is the first to fail essentially as a warning and then nobody cared or did anything and the other crops fail due to climate change reasons later.
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gonna be real neat to see which crops get planted on the remaining farmland (it's going to be the most profitable crops, probably for export) Holodomor II: Inadvertent Boogaloo
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I think I saw on TV that soy beans are probably going to be the main thing. Idk if that's good or not considering tariffs and stuff. Are soy crops good at restoring land at least?
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net work error posted:I think I saw on TV that soy beans are probably going to be the main thing. Idk if that's good or not considering tariffs and stuff. Are soy crops good at restoring land at least? None of the industrial monoculture plants are good for soil replenishment.
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Shima Honnou posted:Most likely corn is only gonna be the start of it, and it's gonna be lol when the most disposable crop industry in this country is the first to fail essentially as a warning and then nobody cared or did anything and the other crops fail due to climate change reasons later. Yeah and also wasn't everyone always saying that it's ok don't worry about it we've got years before it'll effect us?
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If it continues here and then doesn't recover later this year, that could be the end of summer ice in the arctic soon. I wonder how long until the earth goes back to being relatively even temperature across the globe rather than the huge polar-equator difference?
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Like almost 10 years ago or something the Navy and some independent scientists were saying expect a BoE by 2019 at the latest, so. We're actually overdue for this by a few years!
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Shima Honnou posted:Like almost 10 years ago or something the Navy and some independent scientists were saying expect a BoE by 2019 at the latest, so. We're actually overdue for this by a few years! 
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