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Saw this on Twitter (it's a Magic: The Gathering card run through Google translate and back), and it is giving me Orville vibes. Sorry if this doesn't work, doing it through the app.
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MisterBibs posted:Saw this on Twitter (it's a Magic: The Gathering card run through Google translate and back), and it is giving me Orville vibes. I literally can't imagine how a good faith translation of a magic card could end up like that, no matter how many times.
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Jun 13, 2019 16:54
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The Bloop posted:I literally can't imagine how a good faith translation of a magic card could end up like that, no matter how many times. eh it's not incredibly impossible. There's some weirdness like the Roman Empire thing but it's surprisingly not super far-off from the original 
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Jun 13, 2019 16:58
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That reads as real as those "I made a bot watch 1000 hours of ________ and write a script"
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Jun 13, 2019 17:01
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Tell me in what language Deathtouch -> Fornicator Indestructible -> Abstinence So I can buy the Rosetta Stone courses immediately
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Jun 13, 2019 17:02
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The Bloop posted:I literally can't imagine how a good faith translation of a magic card could end up like that, no matter how many times. Nevertheless, it will be crushed. Snow Cone Capone posted:I have the glowing Kuchi Kopi as a present from my wife but I'm 99% sure she didn't pay that much for it. It's strange, because I'm quite sure a huge number of fans want Kuchi Kopi things, and literally no other toy related to Bob's Burgers in any way. Certainly applies to me. They did a miscalculation if they didn't realize that. Iron Crowned posted:I hope that they have a rare mustache Bortus with 500 cigarettes. 100% this, I must have it.
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Jun 13, 2019 17:03
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PT6A posted:
I can see them selling pink bunny hoods but yeah, bring on the Kuchi Kopi
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Jun 13, 2019 17:05
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The Bloop posted:I can see them selling pink bunny hoods but yeah, bring on the Kuchi Kopi It exists, we were talking about it last page when Orville Blind boxes with rare chase collectible chain smoking Bortus was joked about. Warning $50, because collectible nerd toy Google for a discount coupon if you do actually buy that overpriced thing.
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Jun 13, 2019 17:15
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I just want a stand with an Orville model that's heavily weighted on the front with a divot where it connects to the stand, so you put it on the stand and can rotate it around with a light touch and it looks like it is floating, like one of those balance eagle toys
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Jun 13, 2019 17:19
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:I just want a stand with an Orville model that's heavily weighted on the front with a divot where it connects to the stand, so you put it on the stand and can rotate it around with a light touch and it looks like it is
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Jun 13, 2019 17:22
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The Bloop posted:Tell me in what language They walk it through several languages trying to break it as much as possible. https://twitter.com/RosewattaStone/status/1067418010439360513
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Jun 13, 2019 17:25
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 Clothes are very frustrating
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Jun 13, 2019 17:32
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pixaal posted:It exists, we were talking about it last page when Orville Blind boxes with rare chase collectible chain smoking Bortus was joked about. Here's the $23 version that I have, it doesn't have the bowtie but the color is more accurate IMO.
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Jun 13, 2019 17:43
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Here's the $23 version that I have, it doesn't have the bowtie but the color is more accurate IMO. Glad there are cheaper options out there!
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Jun 13, 2019 17:49
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I will say on both of them the glow is really weak so maybe supplement it with a $2 UV flashlight from AliExpress 
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Jun 13, 2019 17:57
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By the way, even if you don't play the game, Rosewatta Stone is a pro-tier follow: https://twitter.com/RosewattaStone/status/1138430693372022786 https://twitter.com/WillWeaverRVA/status/1137901204854493184 https://twitter.com/RosewattaStone/status/1137705917447884800
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Jun 13, 2019 18:10
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMkJuDVJdTw
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Jun 13, 2019 20:36
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I expected that just going to mandarin and back would have been totally whack but it was hardly messed up at all. Even more surprised how little was lost going through five languages. Man the bad Asian translators of instructions really have no excuse. Those companies could just run it through Google and save some money, and it would actually come out better. Hipster_Doofus fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Jun 13, 2019 |
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Jun 13, 2019 20:58
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Iron Crowned posted:
Especially around the holiday season and you know those drat jeans were not snug before the holidays.
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Jun 13, 2019 21:01
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M_Sinistrari posted:Especially around the holiday season and you know those drat jeans were not snug before the holidays.  My mom should be telling me I'm fat, not my clothing!!!
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Jun 13, 2019 22:16
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Google translate is basically magic. I work in retail and it’s amazing how much you can achieve with google translate. In my neighbourhood we have a substantial Chinese customer base and many of them can’t speak a word of English; it’s amazing how well google translate works, I end up using it all the time to make myself understood.
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Jun 14, 2019 01:27
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Yeah. It doesn't do good translations for any of the languages I'm familiar enough with to judge, but they've solved getting translations functional enough to communicate with. Had plenty of conversations through it like a Star Trek universal translator.
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Jun 14, 2019 01:32
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Grand Fromage posted:Yeah. It doesn't do good translations for any of the languages I'm familiar enough with to judge, but they've solved getting translations functional enough to communicate with. Had plenty of conversations through it like a Star Trek universal translator. Star Trek is always a fascinating window into what things seemed hard to us 50 years ago versus how hard they actually turn out to be.
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Jun 14, 2019 09:43
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I kind of suspect where translation is now is as good as it's going to get for a while, but I'm one of those people who thinks machine learning/AI is being really overhyped right now and is going to be a much harder problem than a lot of people have been claiming lately. Also it depends on the languages too. Good quality English-Spanish translation is an easier problem than English-Korean.
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Jun 14, 2019 20:24
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Grand Fromage posted:I kind of suspect where translation is now is as good as it's going to get for a while, but I'm one of those people who thinks machine learning/AI is being really overhyped right now and is going to be a much harder problem than a lot of people have been claiming lately. I just had a situation with an online sale where google translate essentially turned an English description into its functional opposite in Spanish resulting in a quite unhappy customer. Probably don't buy expensive things based only on a machine translation.
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Jun 14, 2019 20:28
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Grand Fromage posted:I kind of suspect where translation is now is as good as it's going to get for a while, but I'm one of those people who thinks machine learning/AI is being really overhyped right now and is going to be a much harder problem than a lot of people have been claiming lately.
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Jun 14, 2019 20:31
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Cingulate posted:Sure, I don't assume that we will have full AI soon, but I can see a noticeable step forward in the quality of translations arriving still. Not perfect, but stylistically better. I'm thinking grammar will get more comprehensible so you're not always trying to puzzle out things that sort of make sense but are phrased incredibly weirdly. But I'm thinking properly fluent translation is going to require the computer to actually understand the languages it's using and that's going to be extremely difficult.
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Jun 14, 2019 20:37
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Grand Fromage posted:I'm thinking grammar will get more comprehensible so you're not always trying to puzzle out things that sort of make sense but are phrased incredibly weirdly. But I'm thinking properly fluent translation is going to require the computer to actually understand the languages it's using and that's going to be extremely difficult. With a big enough data set it could very conceivably get very, very close to as accurate as a fluent translator without any real understanding. At least for everyday transactional things. It will obviously be a lot harder for things like poetry or philosophy
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Jun 14, 2019 20:40
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Grand Fromage posted:I'm thinking grammar will get more comprehensible so you're not always trying to puzzle out things that sort of make sense but are phrased incredibly weirdly. But I'm thinking properly fluent translation is going to require the computer to actually understand the languages it's using and that's going to be extremely difficult. The Bloop posted:With a big enough data set it could very conceivably get very, very close to as accurate as a fluent translator without any real understanding. At least for everyday transactional things. It will obviously be a lot harder for things like poetry or philosophy
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Jun 14, 2019 20:42
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I think we're 5-10 years away from NLP universal translators for the major languages. Computers are still going to have problems with colloquialisms for a while, though.
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Jun 14, 2019 20:51
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People said the same thing about self driving cars, and yet Tesla's still aim straight for fire trucks.
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Jun 14, 2019 22:11
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Peachfart posted:People said the same thing about self driving cars, and yet Tesla's still aim straight for fire trucks. That's the best kind of car to ram, they are ready to rescue you
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Jun 14, 2019 22:16
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Peachfart posted:People said the same thing about self driving cars, and yet Tesla's still aim straight for fire trucks. Driving is a significantly more complicated problem.
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Jun 14, 2019 22:18
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Dietrich posted:Driving is a significantly more complicated problem. Speaking of which, the ubiquity of manually piloted spaceships in Scifi is probably appear as a massive anachronism soon.
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Jun 14, 2019 22:22
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I don't know if it's a good way to compare, but the amount of time it takes to learn a language vs to drive a car sure makes it seem language is a vastly more complex task. Makes sense to me intuitively too, and as we all know intuition on the internet equals facts.
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Jun 14, 2019 22:23
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Cingulate posted:... than language? I'm pretty sure we'll have cars way before real language understanding. Yes, absolutely. Grand Fromage posted:I don't know if it's a good way to compare, but the amount of time it takes to learn a language vs to drive a car sure makes it seem language is a vastly more complex task. Makes sense to me intuitively too, and as we all know intuition on the internet equals facts. It's not a good way to compare, because humans are naturally very good at using vision and spacial awareness to navigate in the real world and have been doing so for 16 years or more before they have to learn to do it at a higher rate of speed. Computers don't have 5 billion years or whatever of evolution hard-wiring visual cognition into them. Our brains employ tricks we don't yet fully understand to be able to process the data so quickly. And the kicker is that to be a good driver also means being able to predict the behavior of the drivers around you, which is in no way a simple problem. Dietrich fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Jun 14, 2019 |
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Jun 14, 2019 22:27
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Grand Fromage posted:I don't know if it's a good way to compare, but the amount of time it takes to learn a language vs to drive a car sure makes it seem language is a vastly more complex task. Makes sense to me intuitively too, and as we all know intuition on the internet equals facts.
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Jun 14, 2019 22:28
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Grand Fromage posted:I don't know if it's a good way to compare, but the amount of time it takes to learn a language vs to drive a car sure makes it seem language is a vastly more complex task. Makes sense to me intuitively too, and as we all know intuition on the internet equals facts. It isn't though, because to learn top drive a car also requires you to develop fine motor control, and process and prioritize what you see and hear, and ability to think and perceive in 3D space. It's just those are tasks you've already mastered by that age
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Jun 14, 2019 22:29
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Grand Fromage posted:I kind of suspect where translation is now is as good as it's going to get for a while, but I'm one of those people who thinks machine learning/AI is being really overhyped right now and is going to be a much harder problem than a lot of people have been claiming lately. Exactly why I thought just going to mandarin and back would be pretty mangled. Otoh I've done some translations to Spanish and back that came out hosed up beyond recognition. 
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Also have to be clear what we mean. If you're talking good enough translation to be able to travel to a foreign country and use your phone as a UT to get around, yeah that's doable and we're most of the way there already. I'm talking about like good, you don't need humans anymore instant machine translation. I don't expect that to be cracked in my lifetime.
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