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Outstanding. The steam preview trailer video has some spoilers for the start of it lol. But it's hard to avoid a lot of the major twists since they hit you with them almost immediately.
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Squiddycat posted:i hope we can get Higurashi finished before 2019 closes at least? ahahahaha
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Jun 13, 2019 21:14
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Finish chapter 8 before the end of the year? Maybe. They're also planning on translating a lot of extra chapters from the Hou collection, and they're definitely not getting that poo poo done anytime soon.
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Jun 13, 2019 21:35
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It has taken them over 13 months between each answer arc, I really really would not hold my breath for 8 this year.
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Jun 13, 2019 21:46
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Alright it took me way too long to get this far but I think I'm finally hooked in Fata Morgana, just past door 4. "Reclaim Yourself", with the building piano and strings and singing, god drat. This game is going to haunt me, isn't it. I'm going to have to dig in and finish just so I can safely poke around the soundtrack without running into spoilers, if nothing else.
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Jun 14, 2019 05:18
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MegaZeroX posted:Chapter 7 finally has a release date of July 18th! Okay, I've been frustrated with the wait, but I suppose I can forgive them if they've been saving it specifically to release it on my birthday. Chapter six of Higurashi was an absolute joy - I loved its bizarre collision of the power of friendship and the power of murder - and I'm looking forward to this a lot.
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Jun 14, 2019 10:55
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Since it was in the Hot Date bundle, I finally started reading G-Senjou. I knew the big reveal way early but it seems like Tsubaki's route spoils it pretty quickly too. I do like the characters, even if Azai is bordering on kind of ridiculous for his age. I'm firmly waiting for someone to assassinate Eiichi for being a tiny poo poo and I refuse to believe it isn't coming.
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Starting up Hiiro no Kakera for no particular reason. It just seemed like a bread and butter otome game to start with. I like the guys, not so much the MC, which puts me in line with every blog review I’ve seen of it.
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So I have only played otome VN's but a recent discussion got me thinking about something. Some people in the otome community dislike how "chaste" ev erything is. They want more explicit content with their husbandos. I think that's fine for them but I happen to disagree. I like my sweet romance and emotions and I have no interest in anything more than a kissing CG. But I've never played a VN about dating girls. Is there a name for that or is it just the default? Do they tend to be more explicit than otome? And I don't just mean fanservice because I notice a lot of works - including otome - that are heavy on fanservice but stop short of actual sex or sexual relationships. Can anybody here recommend a good VN about dating women? Preferably on Vita or maybe PC. Also if it's on PC, please have voice-ac ting.
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Jun 14, 2019 19:23
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Well there's a fan translation of Steins;Gate Hiyoku Renri no Darling up on Youtube and I'm reading it right now. It's... probably not very representative of the genre though, I would guess.
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NikkolasKing posted:So I have only played otome VN's but a recent discussion got me thinking about something. Some people in the otome community dislike how "chaste" ev erything is. They want more explicit content with their husbandos. I think that's fine for them but I happen to disagree. I like my sweet romance and emotions and I have no interest in anything more than a kissing CG. Try Little Busters. It’s got some great funny writing and pretty pure hearted romance. It’s on Steam.
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NikkolasKing posted:But I've never played a VN about dating girls. Is there a name for that or is it just the default? Do they tend to be more explicit than otome? And I don't just mean fanservice because I notice a lot of works - including otome - that are heavy on fanservice but stop short of actual sex or sexual relationships. Games where you play a male character dating girls are often called "bishoujo games". (I don't speak japanese but as I understand it, otome means maiden and bishoujo means pretty girl, so they're not very helpful, these terms). The vast majority of bishoujo games in circulation were originally made for the PC market and contain explicit porn. Highly popular ones would sometimes be ported to console and therefore have a stripped-down version be created that removed the sex scenes, sometimes adding new content to make up for what's missing, which would then lead to a PC re-release of a deluxe version that contains the new content AND the sex scenes. Most of the time, if you find a high-budget VN with a male lead and female romance options, a porn version of it exists somewhere. It's not necessarily the version you're playing, though. The translation companies have gone back and forth a lot on whether to try and bring over games uncensored, whether to try and cut them down so that no one can possibly object, whether to sell two very different versions for different prices, whether to sell the non-porn version and charge extra for the porn patch, whether to sell a game that's basically an empty shell and distribute a patch for you to put back the game (which is full of porn)... Basically, it's such a minefield that it's hard to give general advice for how to find games if you're not interested in the porn parts, because how it works varies case-by-case. If you are looking for a sweet romantic experience with girls I might suggest Princess Evangile. The Steam version is porn-free. It's not a world-shaking masterpiece and the choices are pointless, but it's sweet, romantic, inspires good feelings, the girls are cute. High production values, good voice acting. If you have no experience with bishoujo games I think it's a solid grounding point. A game where you're a female character dating girls would just be a yuri game. Yuri as a genre tends to be more chaste and more focused on one true couple, less of the harem of options. Harem-of-options games exist, but they seem to be the minority. There are not a lot of high-budget Japanese yuri games available in English. Western-written yuri games vary wildly. If you're interested in those it's a separate question.
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NikkolasKing posted:So I have only played otome VN's but a recent discussion got me thinking about something. Some people in the otome community dislike how "chaste" ev erything is. They want more explicit content with their husbandos. I think that's fine for them but I happen to disagree. I like my sweet romance and emotions and I have no interest in anything more than a kissing CG. Aoishiro is a pretty good VN about dating women, but I'm not sure it's representative. Partially because it is more chaste than the norm for VNs targeted at men and partly because the protagonist is herself a woman. I think as far as romance VNs targeted at men go they're mostly either fairly chaste or they're porn; there's not much of a middle ground. Generally even the games which want to explore sexual relationships in a dramatic way do so with porn because that's what sells. Once you remove the porn games and the "still basically porn but all the naughty pictures have been replaced by pictures of dragons for the console release" games the ones that are left usually don't explore relationships beyond an idealized kissing and cuddling stage.
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astr0man posted:I really need to get around to reading chapter 6 Speaking of which, I've been completely stalled out at the start of Umineko Ch. 5. I took a break after reading Ch. 4 last summer while waiting for Answers to go on sale, and after I finally got it, I just haven't been able to push through the introductory sections.
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I finished This was the first one I played with the voice patch. I don't think Rika said "meep" or "nipah" in the previous two chapters. A translation difference to match the voices? Anyhow, I liked the friendly home life sibling time. It warmed my heart, setting it up to be shattered by the scenes of Satoko's abuse and breakdown. It's painful to see a character getting abused, especially since I genuinely have become attached to these characters. Horror is about fear. You want to get spooked. So what's tragedy for? Sympathy? This game is from Keiichi's POV, and it focuses for some time on Keiichi's powerlessness. He couldn't hide Satoko. Reporting to Japanese CPS might make it worse. And even after telling his teacher, they couldn't get past Satoko hiding her uncle's abuse. There are so many walls stopping her from getting help. On the other hand, abuse is super-easy. Satoko's uncle can't support himself, but destroying Satoko's mental well-being is a piece of cake. The game makes murder look similarly easy. Start with an angry desire, add a hastily drawn plan, and dehumanize to taste. Voila! A dead body. Like the characters discuss in the extra, it feels like killing Satoko's uncle was the choice that Oyashiro is punishing Keiichi for. If this were a Greek myth, the god would probably show up and shout at whoever managed to piss them off and explain why they're mad. But here I can only guess what the moral could be, if there is one. Could there have been another path? After the baseball game Mion remarks that Keiichi's strength, his rhetoric, would grow and empower him to do amazing things and rule the world or something like that. If he had godly persuasion maybe he could have achieved a better outcome. For Ch4, I'm guessing that switching viewpoint characters also switch who gets targeted. Shion's been a victim before. Maybe Keiichi will be the one who gets possessed this time, as a continuation of how he was acting scary and weird-eyed towards his friends when planning the murder. Arbitrary Number fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Jun 20, 2019 |
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I was curious about your reactions to umineko but that does not look like umineko you're talkin about.
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No Wave posted:I was curious about your reactions to umineko but that does not look like umineko you're talkin about. oops! i meant higurashi
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I started up Umineko Chapter 6 again after a long break, and something really bizarre just happened. I'm at the part where Erika refuses to invoke her Detective's Authority, but accepts Battler's compromise offer of enough working tape to cover three rooms to make the upcoming battle more "fair", or something. Battler then leaves, and Erika, Bernkastel, and Lambdadelta laugh amongst themselves at how stupid Battler is for giving Erika exactly what she really wanted. Please tell me Battler did not actually fall for this ruse after what happened at the end of Chapter 3. Even more importantly, in the scene immediately preceding this one, Lambdadelta got pissed at Battler for eavesdropping on the three them! Why the hell would they think Battler's not continuing to listen in on them as they laugh at him behind his back? I'm either 1. missing something really obvious here or 2. the scene is just plain bad writing. Yeah, I know, it's probably 1.
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Battler really thinks he owned Erika and feels sorry for her and relates to the situation she's in as Bernkastel's toy. He's doing it as a favor to Erika to help her save face with Bernkastel so maybe Bernkastel will punish her less. Plus, being extra magnanimous when you finally have a little bit of power is fun, and Erika's also a girl around his age. There's not one singular reason it works but taken together I totally buy it. As for why Erika didn't go to the door and look out of it to make sure battler was really really gone, I figure the witches have an idea of what's going on in the magic tea house (allowing themselves to get eavesdropped on was their doing in the first place). No Wave fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Jun 20, 2019 |
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Jun 20, 2019 15:47
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This is spoilers for the end of Ch6 so don't read this yet isn't there an implication that Battler set the whole thing up to force Small Beatrice to solve the mystery and remember who she was?
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Arbitrary Number posted:I finished Higurashi Ch3 and Ch4 are my favorite chapters in the game, apart from maybe Ch6. You're well into the Good poo poo now.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:This is spoilers for the end of Ch6 so don't read this yet
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Feels Villeneuve posted:This is spoilers for the end of Ch6 so don't read this yet That was how I interpreted it too.
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Umineko Chapter 6 (cont.) Well, it looks like Battler's gently caress up was meant to facilitate the introduction of logic error(s), a concept that did raise the tension for me a bit because it hasn't been seen previously and it does raise the possibility of an immediate loss for one side. The scene described above still bugs me, but whatever.
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In Fata Morgana, does Reincarnation spoil or reference events from Requiem for Innocence?
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theblackw0lf posted:In Fata Morgana, does Reincarnation spoil or reference events from Requiem for Innocence?
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Nate RFB posted:Yes, 100%. You mean the main story or the side stories, or both? I'm not really sure i have the stomach to go through the main story of Requiem haha
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theblackw0lf posted:You mean the main story or the side stories, or both? However the main story has several characters and events that come up in Reincarnation; the most prominent of which is the "Fragment" epilogue.
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Clannad is coming to switch in about 2 weeks. It’s a good one, right?
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numerrik posted:Clannad is coming to switch in about 2 weeks. It’s a good one, right? Yes.
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Jun 21, 2019 20:46
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Clannad is one of the longest VN games as well. The average playthrough is like 60+ hours.
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Ineffiable posted:Clannad is one of the longest VN games as well. The average playthrough is like 60+ hours. That’s fine, I was going to pick it up after finishing steins gate elite, I just hit chapter 6/11 and I’m already 23-24 hours in. Length isn’t a problem.
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numerrik posted:Clannad is coming to switch in about 2 weeks. It’s a good one, right? Also while it is "long" the bigger issue is that it is OBTUSE as gently caress. You will need a walkthrough to get to many of the routes, to say nothing of the True End. A big reason why I prefer the anime version is that that cuts out a lot of the (unnecessary) fluff and provides a more coherent/straight forward narrative. But despite all of that, I'm glad I played it back in the day, it was a satisfying experience that stayed with me for a long time. It's a famous VN for a reason.
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The no spoiler review I read straight up recommended using a route guide because “bullshit”. Nice to know that was good and proper advice.
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Yeah there's a lot of routes and you have to see all of them including the incredibly minor side ones to get the true ending so that's fun. Little Busters is my pick for the absolute best Key one though.
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I really should go through the Memorial Box version of LB someday, I've always wanted to check out the extra routes. As well as go through it again from the start because the original way I did was piecemeal from various TL patch stages that wasn't very fun. From what I recall of at least the original I felt there was a huge gap, even larger than normal, between all of the original routes and Rin/Refrain in terms of quality. It felt like rather than being a VN based around a particular theme it was one major idea (Rin/Refrain) with a hodgepodge of other stories that they couldn't fit in elsewhere so it was very incongruous with the "main" narrative. CLANNAD has that problem too to a certain extent too but I feel like the story there does a better job of making the cast interact with each other in them so it flows together better for the most part.
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It's always interesting seeing people comment on Umineko. I notice a lot of people, while reading, just perceive the end of episode 3 as Battler getting totally owned/tricked, but in reality the chapter is more about Beatrice's internal struggle over whether to settle for a comforting lie or to continue trying to force Battler to understand the truth. A lot of people seem to think Beato is just internally like "hahahaha I am totally fooling Battler!" during that episode, but she is actually legitimately tempted to go along with things and has a difficult time revealing the deception at the end. Also I agree with the person who commented on the chick Beato stuff. That's the one story beat I'm not really a fan of, and I think it was the result of Ryuukishi having to come up with some way to indirectly explain the Beatrice situation since a lot if the reader base (understandably) still didn't understand at that point. By the way, people have already probably said this many times before, but for the love of God if you're playing the Steam version do not use the default sprites. It causes me actual physical pain to see literally my favorite piece of fictional media tainted by that nonsense. Either the original or PS3 sprites are good, but holy gently caress are the pachinko ones used on the Steam version awful. It's a crime against all that is good that thousands of people are buying the game and playing it with those sprites.
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I went looking for a specific steam sprite to show a friend and accidentally spoiled some stuff about the culprit so they’re a very touchy subject for me. A few people here have read the Higurashi manga, right? I stumbled on a copy of Massacre Arc 1(which I didn’t realize until later was overall book 19.....pretty impressive, it’s a big fat monster of a volume). Any idea what that corresponds to in the games? It says it takes place after the Curse Killing Arc and Killing Time Arc so I’m thinking it’s probably around game five or six if it lines up at all, but the back cover blurb is about Rika explicitly looking for a way to end the loop alive which was only really made explicit in 6 (although it was signposted a ton before that, all the way back to 1). If it doesn’t cover anything from 8 and does an okay job of presenting 7 (or whatever book it is) I might read it.
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