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exquisite tea posted:The way people talk about buying a $2000 rig just to play this game and how the dust particles refracting off the window panes are some transformative experience hitherto unseen would indicate that yes, many people have lost their minds. The dust thing, Metro Exodus, and Kingdom Come Deliverance already did those effects. I'm sure there are other older games that had that as well. Cyberpunk 2077 launches with Nvidia RTX raytracing but unless Nvidia releases a new graphics card between now and launch, it's not like anyone will be seeing those effects.
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Collateral posted:Is it being implied here that devs at CDPR are expected to work days, nights and weekends continuously for months? Bit harsh that. You would think they would be allowed home to sleep, and possibly wash, at the very least, I am going to presume CDPR at least provide beds and meals. Witcher 3 had well documented (CDPR's own admission) employee abuse, forcing their artists and programmers to work 100 hour weeks or risk being fired.
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I will say, after finding out about Witcher 3 having a robust amount of mods, this game is gonna be bonkers with it.
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Zaphod42 posted:As with anything there are things witcher 3 dows well and things that are "videogamey" and pretending like its somehow unique is real silly. Yeah, it does writing and world building well. Better than every other RPG, or most other games in general (though comparing that in games across genre is harder).
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UP AND ADAM posted:Yeah, it does writing and world building well. Better than every other RPG, or most other games in general (though comparing that in games across genre is harder). It does writing and world building well. Better than every RPG? That's just silly though.
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TW3 does it incredibly well. However it also has a lot of source material to draw on, so I weigh it a bit differently against RPGs that come up with their own lore and characters wholecloth tbh I'd still say the writing is overall better than most RPGs.
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Theres also not been all that many major AAA RPGs in the last 10 years.
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hobbesmaster posted:Theres also not been all that many major AAA RPGs in the last 10 years. Yeah, there's not a lot of modern RPGs to really compare it to, and comparing it to older ones can be a bit unfair in a sense.
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Does anyone really want to play Cyberpunk 2077 for anything except the experience of finally having your 90s tabletop groups' experiences replicated in HD?
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Zaphod42 posted:It does writing and world building well.
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chitoryu12 posted:Does anyone really want to play Cyberpunk 2077 for anything except the experience of finally having your 90s tabletop groups' experiences replicated in HD? You think most people playing this game will know anything about the source material? I'm here because I like the aesthetic and I'm looking for an heir to Deus Ex.
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chitoryu12 posted:Does anyone really want to play Cyberpunk 2077 for anything except the experience of finally having your 90s tabletop groups' experiences replicated in HD? I want the feeling I had when I played original Deus Ex. I haven't had that feeling since and I kind of get that vibe from Cyberpunk
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I honestly didn't even know Cyberpunk 2077 was based on a pen and paper game until after CDPR showed off that CGI teaser 5 years ago.
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My group's CP2020 play sessions were pretty bad in retrospect, but our experience with the world was the sourcebook and some random sci-fi movies. I haven't read Neuromancer or other genre books until couple of years later.
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chitoryu12 posted:Does anyone really want to play Cyberpunk 2077 for anything except the experience of finally having your 90s tabletop groups' experiences replicated in HD? Yes. Absolutely. I made a cop who was on the psychosquad who eventually got ~~~cyberpsychosis~~~ and lost his link to humanity and became the thing they hunted.
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"Cyberpunk 2077 is a video game" isn't really the sort of criticism I was expecting to see from people who have played the demo and now I rather feel like I don't understand what these words mean.
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Look Sir Droids posted:You think most people playing this game will know anything about the source material? I don't think most but I'm actually a bit surprised people who followed it since the 2013 teaser didn't know about the PnP game Also "it's a game" is a silly criticism, nobody looks at VtmB and doesn't notice that it's a game, it's still considered a classic despite the flaws
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It's the sort of blanket, dumbass statement that makes me loathe admitting that I play video games.
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frajaq posted:all the posters together This looks loving sweet spread across my double monitor set up, thank you!
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Considering CDPR devs started anonymously comparing cyberpunk to anthem after that postmorten got released, things might be bad and getting worse.
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This trends with immersion is doubly stupid not only because games are going to be games, but also because people claim that the dumbest poo poo is immersive.
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I think they were just comparing CDPR's bad record on crunch and developer burnout to Bioware, who were experiencing the same thing throughout the development of Anthem. Cyberpunk 2077 being vaguely disappointing definitely seems plausible but a total broken disaster seems unlikely.
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The second they announced the very limited "classes" you're able to play I had to temper my expectations for this game a lot (like it seems regardless of the Solo/Techie/Netrunner talent trees, you're basically playing a Solo from footage so far), but I'm still REALLY excited for it. Rip cybercop possibility tho 
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I said come in! posted:I honestly didn't even know Cyberpunk 2077 was based on a pen and paper game until after CDPR showed off that CGI teaser 5 years ago. Same, I figured it was just off brand shadowrun without the license and the street orcs. I also played rifts... lots of cyberpunk stuff but never the literal "cyberpunk" game, who knew?
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exquisite tea posted:I think they were just comparing CDPR's bad record on crunch and developer burnout to Bioware, who were experiencing the same thing throughout the development of Anthem. Cyberpunk 2077 being vaguely disappointing definitely seems plausible but a total broken disaster seems unlikely. while both are bad Anthem's crunch came as a result of spending five years of a six-year dev cycle with no direction or solid idea of what the final product was supposed to be so they kinda had to crunch in order to actually produce something resembling a game in that final year
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frajaq posted:The second they announced the very limited "classes" you're able to play I had to temper my expectations for this game a lot (like it seems regardless of the Solo/Techie/Netrunner talent trees, you're basically playing a Solo from footage so far), but I'm still REALLY excited for it. Same. I was hoping for Witcher 3 with deep character customization and better RPG systems. If all we're getting is a game with the quest and story proficiency of Witcher 3, only minor character customization/RPG options, in a cyberpunk setting, then my expectations are tempered but I'm still very happy with that.
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The Witcher 1 was the only cdpr production with trace elements of Bioware MagicTM.
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As much as I'd like the other classes, implementing the ones where the main benefit is social (Media, Cop, Corpo, Nomad, arguably Rockerboy) seems like it would be hard but admittedly not impossible. Medtech would have been nice I guess?
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There’s also the very real possibility of releasing new character classes and weapons and stuff as DLC I mean look at all the free bullshit they gave away with the Witcher three
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Cyberpunk is not a mere videogame, it is a braindance.
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frajaq posted:all the posters together Hello my new 21:9 monitor wallpaper. Thanks!
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Pretty good interview, addresses some of the thread's recent questions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59jjsZTopm8
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Pattonesque posted:while both are bad Anthem's crunch came as a result of spending five years of a six-year dev cycle with no direction or solid idea of what the final product was supposed to be Having worked at EA for 6 years in my early 30's I can attest to regular OT for both Developers and QA for all games. Of course the worse the management the worse the crunch, but the crunch is always there by design. Having to get down to zero bugs at each milestone means you are required to have crunch to hit your milestones to get your bonus. This is for Development Managers, QA Managers and so on. It's a bad system and leads to burnout even on sports teams with a regular yearly cycle. The business model is the problem and that won't be changing anytime soon, unless you want to overthrow capitalism's exponential growth.
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Glenn Quebec posted:I will say, after finding out about Witcher 3 having a robust amount of mods, this game is gonna be bonkers with it. The big advantage in the Witcher 3 modding community was that all of its scripting was in lua so you could directly edit a lot of game mechanics directly. There were mods to change sign mechanics, mods to spawn extra monsters or boss monsters periodically, and all the quality of life mods you can imagine. The drawback was that there was no framework for adding quests/content into the game, so you really just had graphics and scripting mods. I would love it if we could get a robust editor for Cyberpunk, but even if we don’t I’d expect a good amount of pure scripting mods.
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Hamelekim posted:unless you want to overthrow capitalism's exponential growth. yes
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Deified Data posted:
Thanks for dredging up dumb poo poo that has been historically taken as dumb.
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That looks like the basis of that dystopian cyberpunk side-scroller game where political correctness brought about the apocalypse or something.
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