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Tsyni posted:We'll get to see when we carry Ruth up. Oh lord. I can’t wait to see the thread tear itself apart in grief over Ruth. I want to toxx that we’ll do something incredibly dumb but there’s also a strong chance we’ll just vote to be as emotionless as we were when Amok told us we’re doomed.
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The basis for mt har paths would be the enkidu death story which had him run up a path to escape labaras and meet ganal, the gathering of red cedar which grow on the slopes of mt har although admittedly it could be some crazy mountain climbing gardening thing and finally it is said the mighty men of baitel guard all the passes of mt har and enkidel got yelled at by some mighty man guard when he got too near. Definitely voting to be a robot for ruth or the stunned parent that lost a kid but hasn't let it sink in yet. Oh yeah if enkidel survives long enough to be stuck in ur for fear of demonic armies flesh carting him the moment he steps outside of ur, under the cover of pilgrimage I want to bring the gebs and every thin blue blooded person or at least the usual teenager and old people to Baitel so we can use some el cred to ask to make a new covenant for the people destined to poof into nothing. Hopefully the future quest to map out the river up lake acco will be completed by then and everyone can just boat their way untill they reach the outskirts of Baitel. Hopefully boat tech has advanced to the point the caravan can carry them on land. Plus this helps Enkidel get used to leading caravans of mostly unblooded people. He's going to need it. Polgas fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Jun 17, 2019 |
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Crazycryodude posted:These days the sherpas do all the work anyways, it's not that impressive it's just a way for the privileged few to show off how they won the genetic lottery and got enough bluestuff to persist instead of vanishing Running low on bottled nephesh, send the tamalid down for a refill.
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Z the IVth posted:So the paths up the mountain are just paths? No structures or anything else? You saw.none.
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Barkstone/Stone of the Mountain is white. Could be like coral. Bright and lively and all normal when alive/close to El's place. Loses all color when dead/removed from El's place.
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Polgas posted:The basis for mt har paths would be the enkidu death story which had him run up a path to escape labaras and meet ganal, the gathering of red cedar which grow on the slopes of mt har although admittedly it could be some crazy mountain climbing gardening thing and finally it is said the mighty men of baitel guard all the passes of mt har and enkidel got yelled at by some mighty man guard when he got too near. An expedition to sail up the river and map it to the source actually sounds like a super good adventure idea, if it hooks up through Ur then awesome, new trade routes and maybe faster travel to other Ur destinations. If it goes outside Ur.... actually that might cause trouble if it goes south into Certain Doom territory, but hey no way to know until we actually try. I strongly doubt it goes to Baitel seeing as we walked the entire width of Ur east to west and never had to cross it so it never comes north of the path we took, but it might meander through southern Ur, maybe even to the Great City of Plants and Horticulture that was mentioned when we were deciding on Grasslands routes? Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jun 17, 2019 |
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Boat tech is already where we can carry it. We did that to skip the bend one time iirc. Just blooded rowing fast as poo poo then carried it on our shoulders and ran. It was pretty dope but I can't remember why we were doing it. Maybe with OC?
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Either way, we proved Mighty Marines are a viable unit.
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TK-42-1 posted:Boat tech is already where we can carry it. We did that to skip the bend one time iirc. Just blooded rowing fast as poo poo then carried it on our shoulders and ran. It was pretty dope but I can't remember why we were doing it. Maybe with OC? Portaging was quite common in the ancient world, even with relatively large ships. There's evidence that proto-vikings from Scandinavia sailed and portaged their way through Germany into the Black Sea way back in Roman times or even before. Imagine what you could do with a crew of giant muscle wizards!
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TK-42-1 posted:Boat tech is already where we can carry it. We did that to skip the bend one time iirc. Just blooded rowing fast as poo poo then carried it on our shoulders and ran. It was pretty dope but I can't remember why we were doing it. Maybe with OC? Bringing the Norc captives back Although that was the same trip so probably OC too ya
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I am hoping we will update tonight. But this is not a promise.
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Zurai posted:Portaging was quite common in the ancient world, even with relatively large ships. There's evidence that proto-vikings from Scandinavia sailed and portaged their way through Germany into the Black Sea way back in Roman times or even before. Imagine what you could do with a crew of giant muscle wizards! Portaged to the black sea? loving hell. Australian explorers dragged boats a surprising distance inland so they could explore the Australian Interior Sea. The sea was a stupid rumour and most of them died horrible deaths in the dry parched desert.
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Outrail posted:Portaged to the black sea? loving hell. Lmao were these Englishmen? Because lol at the aborigines (is this still kosher? i’m not up to date on what we’re supposed to call native aussies) telling them ‘oi yeh sure m8 there’s totes water in dere. jus keep wolkin ay?’
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Outrail posted:Portaged to the black sea? loving hell. Well it's not like they walked all the way, but they portaged between the various rivers in Germany apparently, and with trade goods. Scandinavian goods have been found as grave goods in ancient Egypt. Those dudes really got around.
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I just want boats that allows for even the unblooded and gebs to be able to carry them as they run away from the apocalypse but the idea of kavodel vikings using the boats and rivers to adventure around ur and maybe beyond sounds good.
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Zurai posted:Well it's not like they walked all the way, but they portaged between the various rivers in Germany apparently, and with trade goods. Scandinavian goods have been found as grave goods in ancient Egypt. Those dudes really got around. They've also looked at Viking grave goods and found Arabic stuff Also those Egyptian lions in Constantinople with runes carved into their assess
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I think it’s either ‘Indigenous Australian’ or ‘Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander(s)’ as a blanket term and going down to their tribe name if you’re talking about a specific person/group I guess you could just call them Aussies but I doubt they want to be associated with the fuckwits running the show over there rn
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You know boat tech might not be a bad idea. Ur doesn't have them, Fare has some but all we've seen are barges and we will eventually need something for battles on Asherah turf. Plus if horses are unworkable in UR boats can offer the fast movement we've been searching for.
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Zurai posted:Well it's not like they walked all the way, but they portaged between the various rivers in Germany apparently, and with trade goods. Scandinavian goods have been found as grave goods in ancient Egypt. Those dudes really got around. I believe the main route was that you could sail up the Vistula from the North Sea at Gdansk, and then portage a relatively short distance to another river that connected to the Black Sea. That's Poland and Ukraine, though, not Germany.
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SniperWoreConverse posted:They've also looked at Viking grave goods and found Arabic stuff I highly recommend reading The Rise and Fall of DODO. A Viking Guard from Byzantium features as a major character. The book is also quite funny while being historically very nerdy.
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SniperWoreConverse posted:They've also looked at Viking grave goods and found Arabic stuff ENKIDEL WAS HERE scratched into the Iron Horse of Kadmonim-Khasis
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Lead out in cuffs posted:I believe the main route was that you could sail up the Vistula from the North Sea at Gdansk, and then portage a relatively short distance to another river that connected to the Black Sea. Ah, yeah, last I'd heard the speculation was Germany via the Danube, but that makes sense too as the Danube is relatively isolated from major N/S oriented rivers.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McnKrV0aDjo We should experiment with different arrowhead designs when we get back.
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Ok so here's an idea. Big, wide-rear end rowboats that can be crewed by one or two Semi-Mighty sorts and a bunch of strong normies. Lots of 'em. Sturdy construction, thin layer of Enkidel's Patented Mass-Produced Barely Blooded Bronze coating the hull. Kavodel gets word of an attack or raid, and a squad of the Balls portages their way across Ur until they find this small army of baddies. The Two Mighty-ish Balls carry the boat as a shield/battering ram as the normal Balls follow behind. Impact and scatter the front ranks with the Blooded Bronze Boatshield, then hurl the drat thing into the bulk of the massed enemy while making a bowling pun. Proceed to engage traditional Ball vs Not-Ball combat.
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right now we use the once consort goo to waterproof boats I think.
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Blasphemaster posted:bunch of strong normies. Please watch yourself. You're scaring away all the voters
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Using boats as projectile weapons seems like a very good way to break the very rare and expensive boats.
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Not a giant issue though, any raid we hear about would be weeks old when we heard about it, and weeks older when the men on boats get to whereever it was reported to be. Planning to use the boats like projectiles would only backfire if we ever actually encountered a raid so incredibly stupid as to park on top of the town for a literal month, which isn't really a raid at that point, it's more a 'we already sacked and razed the city, I guess you can add us to the ashes' thing.
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River patrols around the Jubilee seem like a good idea, using boats as weapons seems dumb when we have guys that can sling Fragmentation Boulders at hypersonic velocities e: What we really need to Victis fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Jun 18, 2019 |
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That’s the problem with a lot of tech in Ur. We have these literal demigod humans that can do everything better just innately. Our main focus should be on advance warning since the issue isn’t really getting outclassed technology wise so much as not having assets in the right place at the right time. Tent demons are obviously very powerful. Enough that their presence has to be masked as they move through Ur. One took out Ahaz to the point he had to nuke.
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TK-42-1 posted:That’s the problem with a lot of tech in Ur. We have these literal demigod humans that can do everything better just innately. Our main focus should be on advance warning since the issue isn’t really getting outclassed technology wise so much as not having assets in the right place at the right time. Tent demons are obviously very powerful. Enough that their presence has to be masked as they move through Ur. One took out Ahaz to the point he had to nuke. I agree with the exception of the trebs; iirc that's the only mundane technology (besides firearms) we've seen that gives grunts something that exceeds MM combat capabilities
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There's a definite argument to be made for "good enough" technology, like a slingapult can't throw a rock as quickly or accurately as a Mighty Man, but they can throw rocks good enough that a battery of them can take over rock throwing duty and free up a Mighty Man to do something we don't have a machine for yet. But yeah, information is by far the most useful weapon we have, and mainly because it allows our second best weapon (Mighty Men) to deploy more efficiently.
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Victis posted:e: What we really need to Diogines posted:
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Boat projectile is bad because its doing things boats aren't good at which is projectiles unless we work on it and come up with a good boat plan with Enkidel's god brain. Ideally the tower network will eventually be developed to the point most of south western ur that isn't demonic land or disputed wilderness will be fortified zepathan aligned cities with towers everywhere. Boats will play a key part in rushing people to and from hot spots with the tower network managing to send complex signals to these cities who can then make the call of what and how many to send. In summary boat tech is merely one avenue that allows for faster concentration of force but better towers will be needed. Also control over inner ur rivers will definitely hinder asherah and fare as they gobble ur.
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Unless we develop tools or powers as a society to fight things underwater we don’t actually have control over the waterway should Asherah seek to contest us there.
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:are there that many inner ur rivers? I think most cities are either next to or straddling rivers?
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I mean, the walls had already been brought down when we arrived to relieve the siege and that's with Danal plus Esher et al. there from the start. At Ibleam the whole place got set on fire from a safe range with Ahaz and his retinue there. Sure Tuds can deal with 99% of threats but he can't be everywhere. Victis fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jun 18, 2019 |
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