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canyoneer posted:Context is the OP had to give away her pibble because she had to move and can't take it to the new apartment. ...why wouldn’t you just lie and say it’s a “lab mix” like everyone else?
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brugroffil posted:there's decent population growth in Cali still so it's weird seeing the repeated claims of "everyone is leaving the state!" Their migration numbers still show more people leaving than arriving. Also I think a lot of the sentiment is in places where a.lot of them move to, where our housing prices are being driven up by people who sold homes 8n the bay area, and we have to deal with people with California plates on their cars bitching about the weather and immediately getting into an accident the first time they experience moisture on the road.
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Weatherman posted:Australia is one such planet, but I guess that just proves it can't be done in Freedomland because everything is just so different over there. Exceptional, one might say. I'm pretty sure that Australia does not have legislation establishing an investment vehicle in section 401(k) of the federal Internal Revenue Code, actually.
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Jun 18, 2019 16:24
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Adjusted for cost of living California has the highest poverty rate in the country. Higher than Alabama or Missisipi lol
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feedmegin posted:I'm pretty sure that Australia does not have legislation establishing an investment vehicle in section 401(k) of the federal Internal Revenue Code, actually. It's pronounced "superannuation"
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brugroffil posted:there's decent population growth in Cali still so it's weird seeing the repeated claims of "everyone is leaving the state!" Yes, yes it is. I’m not saying everyone is leaving the state, I’m saying there’s a ton of people leaving the state to other places with similar job markets and lower costs of living, including where I live. California has about 750% the population of Colorado, a tiny amount of emigration for them is a huge amount of immigration for us.
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OctaviusBeaver posted:Adjusted for cost of living California has the highest poverty rate in the country. Higher than Alabama or Missisipi lol i don't think this is totally accurate since a state-level COLA is not very accurate for a lot of California
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Bad with money, get your bad with money here!quote:SAN FRANCISCO/NEW YORK, June 18 (Reuters) - Facebook Inc ( FB ) revealed plans on Tuesday to launch a cryptocurrency called Libra, the latest development in its effort to expand beyond social networking and move into e-commerce and global payments. https://www.fidelity.com/news/article/top-news/201906180500RTRSNEWSCOMBINED_L8N23O1GU_1 "Freedom, justice and money, which is exactly what we're trying to do here," he said.
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Simpsons Reference posted:Bad with money, get your bad with money here! This is an NSA project to get idiots to buy drugs and weapons on Facebook using their actual identities right
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Jun 18, 2019 17:43
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It's purportedly a way to make cheaper international payments, but if it's not a stablecoin I don't understand what's the point. No, I'm not reading the whitepaper, thanks.
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Jun 18, 2019 17:56
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Correct if I'm wrong, but wouldn't people converting USD -> Libra -> USD deal with the same poo poo people went through who trade a bunch of crypto? Whole bunch of folks about to get a learning in investment tax law and cost basis.
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therobit posted:Their migration numbers still show more people leaving than arriving. Also I think a lot of the sentiment is in places where a.lot of them move to, where our housing prices are being driven up by people who sold homes 8n the bay area, and we have to deal with people with California plates on their cars bitching about the weather and immediately getting into an accident the first time they experience moisture on the road. california being a victim of its own success and absolutely unaffordable for a large number of people is the only reason for migration outward. people who leave the state don't want to leave the state, they just can't afford to stay
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Jun 18, 2019 19:17
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the old reverse hotel california
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Shipon posted:california being a victim of its own success and absolutely unaffordable for a large number of people is the only reason for migration outward. people who leave the state don't want to leave the state, they just can't afford to stay Ok but OctaviusBeaver posted:Adjusted for cost of living California has the highest poverty rate in the country. Higher than Alabama or Missisipi lol please tell me what makes this a success?
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Jun 18, 2019 19:30
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It's like arguing the ticket and concession prices at Disneyland are too high for most Americans to be able to afford a trip, so a big chunk of the people who get inside, or have already been inside for a long time, are technically too broke to afford to be there. It means people are being priced out based on demand. It's not good for your average Joe, but it's good for Disneyland as long as the demand is there. People in Alabama and Mississippi on the other hand are broke because those states are the nations septic tanks. There isn't any demand. All that's left are people who couldn't get out and are stuck there.
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People who get priced out of the Bay Area/LA do not move to Yreka. Maybe if Bay Area/LA wealth spread into the rest of CA instead of other states the poverty numbers wouldn’t be so bad. I wish Californians would stay in their state and not come to mine.
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zelah posted:People who get priced out of the Bay Area/LA do not move to Yreka. Maybe if Bay Area/LA wealth spread into the rest of CA instead of other states the poverty numbers wouldn’t be so bad. Rich people don’t want to pay Cali state taxes.
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:It's purportedly a way to make cheaper international payments, but if it's not a stablecoin I don't understand what's the point. No, I'm not reading the whitepaper, thanks. It's probably just an attempt to mimic Asian successes like WeChat's transfer, which has pretty much replaced all other traditional payments, also commercial, in China. Having not read the whitepaper, I'm confident in saying it's not a cryptocurrency in any meaningful interpretation of the word.
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colachute posted:Rich people don’t want to pay Cali state taxes. What are the demographics of the immigrants? Illinois actually has a negative population growth rate, but it's generally people in the lower end of the income scale leaving, not the well-off.
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That explains why Wyoming, with its zero state income tax, has had an influx of tens of thousands of coastal millionaires 
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22 Eargesplitten posted:That explains why Wyoming, with its zero state income tax, has had an influx of tens of thousands of coastal millionaires Give it time
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22 Eargesplitten posted:That explains why Wyoming, with its zero state income tax, has had an influx of tens of thousands of coastal millionaires I forgot Wyoming is the only state without state income tax.
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colachute posted:I forgot Wyoming is the only state without state income tax. Alaska, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, and Washington also.
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colachute posted:I forgot Wyoming is the only state without state income tax. Bubblin crude. Oil that is, black gold, Texas tea.
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I was being sarcastic.
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iirc there's been a decent amount of research that's found migration is overwhelmingly driven by job prospects and that for the wealthy, state tax rate is a minor concern at best. like Illinois is losing people to the point we have a negative pop growth rate, but it's mainly lower and middle income people leaving.
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California’s housing prices are entirely an unforced error and if they could get their act together with regards to 70s or 80s levels of homebuilding, you wouldn’t see nearly as many people leaving the state. Dingbats in LA were the last form of housing that was cheap enough to be affordable when they were built, but then they changed the zoning to ban them in the single family neighborhoods where they could be built cheaply.
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It may be difficult to imagine but people who have money are able to afford to pay more money, whether in taxes or rent, to live in places they desire, instead of loving Cheyenne. (Nothing against Cheyenne because I haven't been there except that I imagine it's probably boring as gently caress and I would never want to live there.) totalnewbie fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Jun 19, 2019 |
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totalnewbie posted:It may be difficult to imagine but people who have money are able to afford to pay more money, whether in taxes or rent, to live in places they desire, instead of loving Cheyenne. At the same time, making your money in California and then loving off to play cowboy in Jackson, WY is so popular that there are some massive houses there.
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totalnewbie posted:It may be difficult to imagine but people who have money are able to afford to pay more money, whether in taxes or rent, to live in places they desire, instead of loving Cheyenne. if you're that wealthy that state taxes might impact your decision on where to live, you probably have a house in Wyoming already if you like such things
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If I could work 100% remote, I would live in a shack in the woods, except I wouldn't waste my time making pipe bombs.
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crazypeltast52 posted:At the same time, making your money in California and then loving off to play cowboy in Jackson, WY is so popular that there are some massive houses there. The private jet flight time between Pali Alto and Jackson was a plot point / recurring gag on HBO’s Silicon Valley. Just saying.
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crazypeltast52 posted:Dingbats in LA were the last form of housing that was cheap enough to be affordable when they were built, but then they changed the zoning to ban them in the single family neighborhoods where they could be built cheaply. I never knew what these were called thank you!
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:if you're that wealthy that state taxes might impact your decision on where to live, you probably have a house in Wyoming already if you like such things My man have you heard of a little tax haven I like to call Puerto Rico?
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brugroffil posted:iirc there's been a decent amount of research that's found migration is overwhelmingly driven by job prospects and that for the wealthy, state tax rate is a minor concern at best. like Illinois is losing people to the point we have a negative pop growth rate, but it's mainly lower and middle income people leaving. I thought I had read the same thing, so I had to track it down: https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2017/nov/20/if-you-tax-the-rich-they-wont-leave-us-data-contradicts-millionaires-threats Article opens with a shot at Atlas Shrugged, so you know it's going places.
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Simpsons Reference posted:If I could work 100% remote, I would live in a shack in the woods, except I wouldn't waste my time making pipe bombs.
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Krispy Wafer posted:If California can have the 5th largest economy in the world and succeed, it's more difficult to discount their policies. I don’t know, it could be argued that the fact that California has such a huge economy makes whatever government policy the state implements not really matter a whole lot. It could also be argued that a lot of California’s success has/had little to do with the state government, and more to do with history and natural advantages. California is playing Oregon Trail as a doctor while Mississippi is playing as a teacher.
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Dik Hz posted:What's your stance on manifestos? I post on a forum that charges $9.99 for access, what do you think?
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totalnewbie posted:It may be difficult to imagine but people who have money are able to afford to pay more money, whether in taxes or rent, to live in places they desire, instead of loving Cheyenne. It's cool to visit, but I'd get cabin fever living there. It's the sort of place that if you decide to drive out of town anywhere, you better fill up your gas tank because you'll need it to get to the next gas station.
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