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In his defense, I only bothered this month to find out what the labels pro and anti gamergate usually mean, since most of my limited reading on this subject was mostly focused on the individuals involved.
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Considering Rule #6 of the Game forum rules is No GamerGate this is probably the time to drop it.
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Jun 19, 2019 19:08
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El_Elegante posted:In his defense, I only bothered this month to find out what the labels pro and anti gamergate usually mean, since most of my limited reading on this subject was mostly focused on the individuals involved. It’s this. I’m tangentially aware that it happened and made lots of idiots mad and unleashed the blight that is Brianna Wu on the planet and gave Steve Bannon the idea for radicalizing incels from World of Warcraft into alt-right shitheads and it was basically so universally toxic that it was like the only thing that would get you straight up banned from GBS for talking about it. Saying someone is “for Gamergate” or “against Gamergate” never made a lick of sense to me because those things fail to clarify which of those is the good side. Were the frothing hordes ruining Anita Sarkeesian’s life “gamer gate”? What if you don’t want women and minorities to be harassed but you do think all of “games journalism” is a farcical attempt at monetizing manufactured outrage by burying the lede in a toy review, because in the entire field there are maybe 5-10 people doing real journalism and research? There’s never any nuance to GG, it’s just two frothing extremes that were never supposed to interact. We should probably table it’s discussion here, since we’ve got so many other toxic tidbits to discuss.
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Jun 19, 2019 19:16
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Can't wait to find out that the reason the net went dark in the Cyberpunk universe is because people were so sick and tired of all these GamerGates
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Bust Rodd posted:What if you don’t want women and minorities to be harassed but you do think all of “games journalism” is a farcical attempt at monetizing manufactured outrage by burying the lede in a toy review, because in the entire field there are maybe 5-10 people doing real journalism and research? Then you're anti-gamergate. This isn't hard. Gamergate is people hating women and doing vile poo poo because of misogyny and using "but games journalism!" As an EXCUSE to do vile things. If your response to that is "well, I agree that games journalism IS a serious issue!" Then you're falling for the bs. This isn't hard to understand. Whatever you think about the quality of VIDEO GAME REVIEWS is loving irrelevant to the much bigger issue. You can talk about how lovely game reviews are without letting yourself be co-opted by violent manchildren. Read between the lines dude.
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Jun 19, 2019 20:02
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Zaphod42 posted:What's with the weird photoshop image? Those were great and the inspiration for these shades Rihanna co designed with Dior  Even closer would be this style that you see sometimes in stuff from the 80s  80s movie Big Trouble In Little China had some classic fashion and the guy on the left is Jeff Imada who literally wrote the book on the balisong ( "butterfly knife") which is like the second most 80s weapon 
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Jun 19, 2019 20:07
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Somebody should make a third person cyberpunk game where you can buy clothes
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Jun 19, 2019 20:15
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puve posted:Those were great and the inspiration for these shades Rihanna co designed with Dior thos look like those whalebone sunglasses that inuits use.
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Jun 19, 2019 20:17
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Zaphod42 posted:Then you're anti-gamergate. This isn't hard. loving this.
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Jun 19, 2019 20:20
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puve posted:Those were great and the inspiration for these shades Rihanna co designed with Dior Ah, but are you familiar with the Mexican sacatripe?
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Jun 19, 2019 20:22
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El_Elegante posted:Ah, but are you familiar with the Mexican sacatripe? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLOBGGE4jt0 yes.
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Jun 19, 2019 20:26
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Zaphod42 posted:Then you're anti-gamergate. This isn't hard. I’ll close by saying “it would be demonstrably more helpful to potential allies to say “I’m anti-misogyny/ anti-racism/ anti-sexism” or “I think these people have terrible attitudes about women and minorities” than to refer to yourselves or them as pro/anti-Gamergate, because those are precise and clear cut definitions of sides of an issue that anyone can parse and doesn’t come with as much toxic baggage.” I am an extremely online video gamer and didn’t really know what you were talking about, and anyone who doesn’t spend all day talking about video games on the Internet has functionally no clue what you could be referring to, reading between the lines or no.
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Jun 19, 2019 20:27
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This game convinced me to pick up the pen and paper Cyberpunk 2020 (it's the second edition, 2.0.2.0 edition). Has anyone else had a chance to play it?
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Bust Rodd posted:I’ll close by saying “it would be demonstrably more helpful to potential allies to say “I’m anti-misogyny/ anti-racism/ anti-sexism” or “I think these people have terrible attitudes about women and minorities” than to refer to yourselves or them as pro/anti-Gamergate, because those are precise and clear cut definitions of sides of an issue that anyone can parse and doesn’t come with as much toxic baggage.” This is pedantic as gently caress. "I mean, what does anti-Nazi even mean, really?" Positions on multiple issues get wrapped up in to a single word or concept all the time, dude. Get a clue. I was much less of a gamer when Gamergate was going on and I knew full well what the outline sketch of the debate was. Reading an article or two on any mainstream gaming website back then was enough to educate you. Are you being obtuse on purpose?
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Bust Rodd posted:I’ll close by saying “it would be demonstrably more helpful to potential allies to say “I’m anti-misogyny/ anti-racism/ anti-sexism” or “I think these people have terrible attitudes about women and minorities” than to refer to yourselves or them as pro/anti-Gamergate, because those are precise and clear cut definitions of sides of an issue that anyone can parse and doesn’t come with as much toxic baggage.” More people know about gamergate from it's inherent misogyny than from it's stance on games journalism. The fact that their first examples were a.) a woman who may have been in a relationship with a dude at the time he wrote a single article about her then-obscure game and b.) a lady who writes primarily about mysogony in games should be a clue. Constantly hammering on gamergate is important because there are still people within it that think they aren't in a toxic hateplace precisely because hiding behind 'critique of games journalism' was allowed to persist.
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What if you can get brain implants that allow you to talk to dogs and learn where all the stealthy level entrances are located? What if you get four sets of arms and have to press four different buttons to shoot them in any given fight. Maybe you'll get to date a robot that looks like a washing machine.
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How were CDPR when it came to fashion and customization in W3? Just wanna know what to expect, if anything.
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ufarn posted:How were CDPR when it came to fashion and customization in W3? Just wanna know what to expect, if anything. There were armor and clothing options, but Witcher gear was generally the best so everyone wore it (unless they glitched to keep their bathing towel and do a towel-only playthrough). There were different hairstyles available from barbers, including a drunk one who would gently caress up your haircut. Not as many choices as Fallout or something, but still enough to stay slightly interesting.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:thos look like those whalebone sunglasses that inuits use. They are a knockoff of the "eskimo" shades designed by Andre Courreges which were themselves a knockoff of exactly that... he was a cool "futuristic" designer in the 60s and 70s who made stuff like this 
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ufarn posted:How were CDPR when it came to fashion and customization in W3? Just wanna know what to expect, if anything. You had hundreds of clothing and armor items and weapons, but the Witcher set items were, stats wise, completely head and shoulders above anything else. There was absolutely no reason to ever equip any of the non-Witcher loot, despite there ostensibly being hundreds of items to choose from.
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puve posted:They are a knockoff of the "eskimo" shades designed by Andre Courreges which were themselves a knockoff of exactly that... he was a cool "futuristic" designer in the 60s and 70s who made stuff like this jesus those things are hideous. like inuit shades are cool though. ufarn posted:How were CDPR when it came to fashion and customization in W3? Just wanna know what to expect, if anything. from what i saw from the demo. its kinda of mix between witcher and gta/bethesda. at least from inventory and states
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Jun 19, 2019 20:41
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El_Elegante posted:Ah, but are you familiar with the Mexican sacatripe? Yes it is used for gutting sheep and other warm blooded mammals, and cops
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I hope there’s a normcore gang
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Jun 19, 2019 20:46
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Dapper_Swindler posted:jesus those things are hideous. like inuit shades are cool though. Every other Chinese woman in Vancouver wears one in the sun.
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Jun 19, 2019 20:47
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El_Elegante posted:I hope there’s a normcore gang I was thinking that too, like what's the fifth "no style no substance" archetype from that set, khakis and loafers with no socks or something
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El_Elegante posted:I hope there’s a normcore gang It's you, the player.
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Glenn Quebec posted:
gamersgate is the online storefront that preceded the controversy and has chosen not to change their name
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Glenn Quebec posted:
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Jun 19, 2019 20:52
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You know what'd make me happy? If there WONT be a spidertank anywhere in the game. Getting real tired of those in anything even remotely cyberpunk.
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Archer666 posted:You know what'd make me happy? If there WONT be a spidertank anywhere in the game. Getting real tired of those in anything even remotely cyberpunk.  immediately
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puve posted:Yeah social media politics stuff is dreary but all you can do is try to ignore the people with the brain disease that makes them bring it up everywhere because they're more prolific than extras in a George Romero movie Its sucks too cause for a bunch of Extremely Online people it was their Vietnam and can't wait to bring up where they were at Great War of 2014 every single chance.
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Archer666 posted:You know what'd make me happy? If there WONT be a spidertank anywhere in the game. Getting real tired of those in anything even remotely cyberpunk. new watch dogs actually looks pretty cool. i like the play as anyone deal. plus the game is basically antifa vs norsefire.
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Looking forward to someone making a GITS mod you spider tank hating trash man
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BexGu posted:Its sucks too cause for a bunch of Extremely Online people it was their Vietnam and can't wait to bring up where they were at Great War of 2014 every single chance. i thought the sega- nintendo console war was vietnam. at least thats what moviebob tells me.
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How was that second Watchdogs? The one in SF
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Syrian Lannister posted:How was that second Watchdogs? The one in SF its good, havent gotten around to beating it yet. its alot lighter in tone which clashs with stuff. but its ok. marcus is a fun protag.
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Hamelekim posted:Every other Chinese woman in Vancouver wears one in the sun. Cyberpunk
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exquisite tea posted:Only the dead have seen the end of the gamer wars. Pouring out a 40 for X_x_X_Sephiroth_X_x_X
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