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girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

AlBorlantern Corps posted:

Welcome to the democratic party
Can't be American politics, they're actually getting something done and there's only one lobbyist.

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There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

God this comic hit way too close to home.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

There Bias Two posted:

God this comic hit way too close to home.


It immediately brought this (twelve year old) panel to mind for me.

Earnestly
Apr 24, 2010

Jazz hands!
Crossing my fingers that Rich goes full Frank Miller, or Orson Scott Card, or the Dune guy-whose-name-I'm-not-going-to-look-up and we get treated to some batshit political beliefs.

I mean, Rich generally has his head on his shoulders, but there's always the chance that he rolls a 1 on his Skill check (comic-writing).

SuperKlaus
Oct 20, 2005


Fun Shoe

PMush Perfect posted:

Can't be American politics, they're actually getting something done and there's only one lobbyist.

Yeah and the evil side acknowledges the idea that it could be wrong by suggesting an investigation, not screaming at the top of its lungs that everything is fake and actually the good guys are evil and actually evil isn't evil anyway.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink
This ain't the right thread.

Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Jun 21, 2019

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Lol rip.

girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Jun 21, 2019

Gun Jam
Apr 11, 2015
Glad not to be the first to make the joke about american politics. Feels like kicking your friend when he's down, y'know?

Also - the council could delay the vote without knowing what's even in it, 'cause of internal politics. No wonder the high priests in the moot went "not again".

Schwarzwald posted:

The Prequels: Anakin's compliance with and participation in the slaughter of children under his guardianship is the final emphasis that he has been lost.

The New Films: Things would have worked out fine if only Luke's student didn't wake up midway through Luke bringing the knife down.

...Are you sure you are in the right thread? How's that related?

Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!
:decorum: but with a beard and using a pickaxe to hit the button.

Motherfucker
Jul 16, 2011

I certainly dont have deep-seated issues involving birthdays.
To be fair their society is technically run by extremists insofar as being a lawful extremist can really count.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink
How the gently caress did I even manage to do that??

Oh jeez, that was a gently caress up. Kindly ignore my utter dumb rear end.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
How about a subject change? Thunt, author of Melty People Goblins, has come out of the closet as a trans woman.

I'm not linking the website, it still doesn't deserve the traffic posted:

I've tweeted about this but I know not all of my readers use Twitter, so I figured that I should post this here as well. I'm transgender. This is going to be very strange or uncomfortable to some of you and I totally understand and respect that.

My breakdown in 2014 was the result of me trying everything I could to ignore this side of me and just live with the dysphoria. Or at least find other ways of coping that didn't involve me acknowledging this aspect of myself. I've been to two gender specialists and I've been on hormone replacement therapy for a little over 2.5 months now. Things are going really well and even though I'm still at the beginning of my transition, I'm super happy about the results already.

I'm amazed at the way my depression and self hatred have just melted away. I feel confident, energetic, social and creative. I know that transitioning is going to bring me through new difficulties and present new problems, but I feel like whatever comes at me, can't be as bad as wasting away like I was before admitting this to myself and to those people in my life.

My pronouns are she/her and I'm in the process of changing my name to "Ellipsis Hana Stephens" (Ell or Elli for short). If you're communicating with me and you misgender me or use my old name, don't even worry about it. This is an adjustment for everyone, so I promise that I won't be offended or annoyed (unless you're doing it on purpose).

I know this is going to cost me some readers, but this is something I just have to do.

Good for her. Her comic is still repulsive on every conceivable level, but maybe there's a chance she'll find some self-awareness now?

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this
Trans people are not exempted from lovely artistry, so probably not.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Kyte posted:

Trans people are not exempted from lovely artistry, so probably not.
No, but parts of Goblins are just so overwhelmingly woman-hating, it feels like maybe some of it came from a place of some deeply internalized poo poo. It's a long shot, but hey.

Motherfucker
Jul 16, 2011

I certainly dont have deep-seated issues involving birthdays.
step two is to transition into a person who can draw.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Earnestly posted:

Crossing my fingers that Rich goes full Frank Miller, or Orson Scott Card, or the Dune guy-whose-name-I'm-not-going-to-look-up and we get treated to some batshit political beliefs.

I mean, Rich generally has his head on his shoulders, but there's always the chance that he rolls a 1 on his Skill check (comic-writing).

Wait, why'd you want this to be the case? Or does "crossing my fingers" imply the "not"? Or did you forget to write the "not"?

I think you're confusing Herbert (who afaik is an avid environmentalist and the whole point of Dune was to talk about environmental issues!) with Heinlein? Or maybe Hubbard? Lots of H's in the right wing cranksphere but I'm pretty sure Herbert isn't one of them.

To avoid embarrassment in case I was deeply wrong, I went and googled just now and nothing notable stuck out to me.

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!

PMush Perfect posted:

How about a subject change? Thunt, author of Melty People Goblins, has come out of the closet as a trans woman.


Good for her. Her comic is still repulsive on every conceivable level, but maybe there's a chance she'll find some self-awareness now?

Huh. Wouldya look at that.

Good for her! :)

(Though it's still a terrible comic.)

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Motherfucker posted:

step two is to transition into a person who can draw.
I checked out the most recent page, and her color work is actually passable now. Boring, but passable. Lineart, character designs, and the color palettes are still hideous, but credit where it's due.

FebrezeNinja
Nov 22, 2007

PMush Perfect posted:

I checked out the most recent page, and her color work is actually passable now. Boring, but passable. Lineart, character designs, and the color palettes are still hideous, but credit where it's due.
Aren't the colors being done by the Girl Genius colorist, or am I thinking of a different webcomic?

Fuego Fish
Dec 5, 2004

By tooth and claw!
In the list of problems with Goblins (and Thunt), the drawing doesn't even make the top three. Unless you count "holy poo poo why is there so much unnecessary body horror" as coming under the umbrella of "drawing", but I'd say it's more to do with awful narrative (the number one problem Goblins has).

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition
Might be interesting to see where the strip goes from here, if this means Thunt is going to move forward into a more positive place as a person.

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!
Point of order: she doesn't go by Thunt any more, but by Ellipsis (Elli for short).

https://twitter.com/Thunt_Goblins/status/1139009850204016640

(Though she says Thunt is still fine for a while until she gets her official namechange, apparently. Different strokes I guess.)


Sorry about this, but I'm kind of a stick-in-the-mud when it comes to properly naming and gendering trans people. This doesn't mean any of you did something wrong though, you didn't know.

Mikl fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Jun 21, 2019

AnoHito
May 8, 2014

I'm just glad she has so many dedicated fans that post in this thread. Just so many people hanging on her every update with an encyclopedic knowledge of her work.

Never could get into, myself (bit too gross for my tastes), but you do you.

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

Wanderer posted:

Might be interesting to see where the strip goes from here, if this means Thunt is going to move forward into a more positive place as a person.

From personal experience, even if I'm not living out just getting out of the denial and self hate hole massively improved my quality of life and left me in a much better place to improve my health, mental wellbeing, and professional skills. So yeah, could be the start of a turnaround for her.

Not like the art can get much worse anyway. :v:

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Don't we have like a general webcomic thread to post Goblins news in where people can go if they want them

we're even getting regular OotS updates at the moment

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

AnoHito posted:

I'm just glad she has so many dedicated fans that post in this thread. Just so many people hanging on her every update with an encyclopedic knowledge of her work.

Never could get into, myself (bit too gross for my tastes), but you do you.
This is a weirdly passive-aggressive post.

My Lovely Horse posted:

Don't we have like a general webcomic thread to post Goblins news in where people can go if they want them

we're even getting regular OotS updates at the moment
This is a much more understandably passive-aggressive post.

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

My Lovely Horse posted:

Don't we have like a general webcomic thread to post Goblins news in where people can go if they want them

we're even getting regular OotS updates at the moment

That thread is specifically labeled as "for liking webcomics in", which disqualifies Goblins immediately.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


I think this is a record on the thread moving from "hey, new update" to "Goblins discussion".

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
My bad.

nimby
Nov 4, 2009

The pinnacle of cloud computing.



I hope Rich is ok.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice
After a certain point, if you hate something enough you like it, period. People who obsessively read webcomics just to hate on it online are basically fans of a different stripe.

Also is the art in Elli's twitter there typical of goblins? Looks fine to me?

Eox
Jun 20, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Raenir Salazar posted:

After a certain point, if you hate something enough you like it, period. People who obsessively read webcomics just to hate on it online are basically fans of a different stripe.

Also is the art in Elli's twitter there typical of goblins? Looks fine to me?

Your first point isn't necessarily wrong but this is absolutely the wrong webcomic to make it about and the wrong thread to make it in.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

Fuego Fish posted:

In the list of problems with Goblins (and Thunt), the drawing doesn't even make the top three. Unless you count "holy poo poo why is there so much unnecessary body horror" as coming under the umbrella of "drawing", but I'd say it's more to do with awful narrative (the number one problem Goblins has).

I don't know anything about Goblins or its author, but from what I've heard from other transgender writers, body horror and transhumanism are both pretty common as ways to express/cope with the general feeling of being uncomfortable in your own body at all times.

TheAceOfLungs
Aug 4, 2010
In a shocking twist, the question that gets brought before the Dwarven council is not "Should we destroy the world?" but rather "Should all the goblins in OotS be drawn by the Goblins comicker?"

Tangent: is there an English equivalent of "Mangaka"? "Author" and "Artist" don't necessarily encompass all the roles of a comics creator individually, and "Cartoonist" seems to suggest a more simple and humorous art style which wouldn't fit for a lot of the more Graphic Novel type stuff.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









The comic timing of this one is great.

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

TheAceOfLungs posted:

In a shocking twist, the question that gets brought before the Dwarven council is not "Should we destroy the world?" but rather "Should all the goblins in OotS be drawn by the Goblins comicker?"

Tangent: is there an English equivalent of "Mangaka"? "Author" and "Artist" don't necessarily encompass all the roles of a comics creator individually, and "Cartoonist" seems to suggest a more simple and humorous art style which wouldn't fit for a lot of the more Graphic Novel type stuff.

Author is fine. You can specify author and artist, but author works as a catch all since it can refer to a general creator.

Fuego Fish
Dec 5, 2004

By tooth and claw!

Clarste posted:

I don't know anything about Goblins or its author, but from what I've heard from other transgender writers, body horror and transhumanism are both pretty common as ways to express/cope with the general feeling of being uncomfortable in your own body at all times.

Goblins, as a comic, is like watching the world's worst, most grognardy DM try and simultaneously run three separate groups of players through the same half-assed homebrewed D&D campaign. While everyone's on meth, both in-character and out.

It also has some incredibly bad takes on what makes a "good" or "bad" paladin, compared to OotS's stellar examples.

Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009
Wasn't Goblins chat in this thread probatable at some point?

It'd be nice if that were still the case.

Mniot
May 22, 2003
Not the one you know
Goblins-chat is Chaotic Neutral, so anything that it does is in character and you can't complain or stop it.

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The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Raenir Salazar posted:

Wait, why'd you want this to be the case? Or does "crossing my fingers" imply the "not"? Or did you forget to write the "not"?

I think you're confusing Herbert (who afaik is an avid environmentalist and the whole point of Dune was to talk about environmental issues!) with Heinlein? Or maybe Hubbard? Lots of H's in the right wing cranksphere but I'm pretty sure Herbert isn't one of them.

To avoid embarrassment in case I was deeply wrong, I went and googled just now and nothing notable stuck out to me.

Didn’t Dune become incredibly Islamophobic in later books?
Or was that when his kids wrote it?

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