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Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


Just came across this atrocity on the Wikipedia article for "Information Age"

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Greatbacon
Apr 9, 2012

by Pragmatica

foobardog posted:

Actually, Chaplin covered a lot of politics. I was in the hospital and watched a bit of The Little Tramp (I think), and it had him go to prison, like it, get thrown back out with nowhere to work, and at some point inadvertently lead a socialist protest.

Really changed my opinion on him.

Don't forget one of his last works was The Great Dictator, which was explicitly about how terrible Hitler was being.

He also released it two years before Pearl Harbor, and the studios didn't want to touch it with a ten foot pole, so he produced it himself.

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

Negrostrike posted:

Just came across this atrocity on the Wikipedia article for "Information Age"



Holy poo poo, why?

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

foobardog posted:

Actually, Chaplin covered a lot of politics. I was in the hospital and watched a bit of The Little Tramp (I think), and it had him go to prison, like it, get thrown back out with nowhere to work, and at some point inadvertently lead a socialist protest.

This is in Modern Times, for anyone specifically looking for footage for their fox news chaplin hitpiece

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Negrostrike posted:

Just came across this atrocity on the Wikipedia article for "Information Age"



[citation needed] on the felling year of the tree

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



[taking brief break from jacking it to clown/balloon fetish porn] amazing how far mankind has come

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Negrostrike posted:

Just came across this atrocity on the Wikipedia article for "Information Age"



:eng99: The very first entry on that is wrong. TCP/IP wasn't invented until 1974, before that ARPANET used NCP instead.

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010
I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.
Huh, the 2000's really were when everything went to poo poo

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


Mr.Radar posted:

:eng99: The very first entry on that is wrong. TCP/IP wasn't invented until 1974, before that ARPANET used NCP instead.

I'm glad you could read that because I just can't with such terrible contrast

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

taqueso posted:

Holy poo poo, why?

It's still not as bad as the guy that kept making graphs in minecraft.

Wikipedia: the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



The Cheshire Cat posted:

It's still not as bad as the guy that kept making graphs in minecraft.

Wikipedia: the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit



note: despite the watermark its from a serious article on a real nazi website that im not gonna link to

klafbang
Nov 18, 2009
Clapping Larry

Krankenstyle posted:


…a serious article on a real nazi website…

Was it written in Microsoft Works using Military Intelligence?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



klafbang posted:

Was it written in Microsoft Works using Military Intelligence?

probably lol

i guess "unironic" or something wouldve been clearer

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Phlegmish posted:

[ clown/balloon fetish porn

:cb:

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang




:cmon:

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

Lutha Mahtin posted:

a lot of comedies are still really funny though. charlie chaplin is still funny. laurel and hardy. i love lucy. blazing saddles. the canard "comedies don't age well" is the problem really

It’s implied at times that Ricky beats Lucy.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Krankenstyle posted:



note: despite the watermark its from a serious article on a real nazi website that im not gonna link to

"A 3D modelling system", yes that is technically not false

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Meinkraft

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
I did Notch see that coming.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Jurgan posted:

It’s implied at times that Ricky beats Lucy.

doesn't he like, bend her over his knee and spank her multiple times? and not in a sexy way? seems like thats just literal abuse imo

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

Krankenstyle posted:



note: despite the watermark its from a serious article on a real nazi website that im not gonna link to

what. how.

(don't answer that, i don't actually want to know how the nazi gets from children's game to genocide denial)

TheMaskedUgly
Sep 21, 2008

Let's play a different game.
From their website:

quote:

This video goes why the Holocaust is flawed and if you were going to genocide a group of people, how the Nazis would have actually done it.

Didn't OJ write that book?

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Soricidus posted:

what. how.

(don't answer that, i don't actually want to know how the nazi gets from children's game to genocide denial)

I'm in the same boat. A very small part of me wants to know their argument...while a far larger part of me knows nothing about this can be good and goes "NOPE!"

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo
I bit the bullet and looked it up (in incognito of course, I don't even want to know what googling "holocaust debunked" would do to my algorithms) and the video itself was taken offline.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Soricidus posted:

what. how.

(don't answer that, i don't actually want to know how the nazi gets from children's game to genocide denial)

No idea what the reasoning is there, but if you expanded the genre to include POW camps, I bet in the Minecraft remake of The Great Escape, all that tunneling would go a bit more quickly. (Although I'm not sure what you'd need at the crafting table to forge German travel documents.)

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Powered Descent posted:

No idea what the reasoning is there, but if you expanded the genre to include POW camps, I bet in the Minecraft remake of The Great Escape, all that tunneling would go a bit more quickly. (Although I'm not sure what you'd need at the crafting table to forge German travel documents.)

1 book, 1 feather, 1 ink sac, and 1 swastika emblem = 1 soldbuch. You'll still need to get your hands on enough wool to make a convincing feldblus if you want to pretend you're a soldier yourself.

Edit: or instead of impersonating a soldier you could impersonate a tailor since all Nazi uniforms were individually tailored to the wearer. A side effect of wearing what was basically a dress uniform to the combat zone was there was never enough tailors. Of course that could get you effectively captured/imprisoned by a unit desperately in need of alterations and/or in trouble if you screwed up some officer's uniform.

Alkydere has a new favorite as of 22:01 on Jun 24, 2019

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

Do you mean Nazi officers? I cannot believe that millions of soldiers got tailored uniforms, especially as the war progressed and got worse.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Count Roland posted:

Do you mean Nazi officers? I cannot believe that millions of soldiers got tailored uniforms, especially as the war progressed and got worse.

There’s an effortpost or two in the Milhist thread about just how impractical Nazi uniforms were.

I don’t recall tailoring, but they had vestigial internal suspenders.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Platystemon posted:

There’s an effortpost or two in the Milhist thread about just how impractical Nazi uniforms were.

I don’t recall tailoring, but they had vestigial internal suspenders.

Seems that over-designing to the point of being impractical, inefficient or unusable was the carrying theme of the Nazi regime.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

Der Kyhe posted:

Seems that over-designing to the point of being impractical, inefficient or unusable was the carrying theme of the Nazi regime.

I'm pretty sure at least half of the R&D teams working on various superweapons were completely aware that their research was going nowhere, and just kept rigging enough promising-looking demos to keep their projects from being canceled, so they could stay in relative safety and hope for the war to end before they got reassigned to the east front or something.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret

Groke posted:

I'm pretty sure at least half of the R&D teams working on various superweapons were completely aware that their research was going nowhere, and just kept rigging enough promising-looking demos to keep their projects from being canceled, so they could stay in relative safety and hope for the war to end before they got reassigned to the east front or something.
Not entirely unlike a lot of research in peacetime, really.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

pangstrom posted:

Not entirely unlike a lot of research in peacetime, really.

Indeed. The main difference being how most of the time the probable consequences of not looking busy enough do not include getting put on a train east to be shot at by a few million Russians.

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

Groke posted:

I'm pretty sure at least half of the R&D teams working on various superweapons were completely aware that their research was going nowhere, and just kept rigging enough promising-looking demos to keep their projects from being canceled, so they could stay in relative safety and hope for the war to end before they got reassigned to the east front or something.

Wasn't there also a big thing about various people in charge of making the designs were jockeying for political favour, so they'd throw their weight around by demanding specific widgets get added, because their rival also had something added and they can't be outdone?

The biggest argument against "the efficiency of fascism" is the Nazi regime.

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

The Cheshire Cat posted:

"the efficiency of fascism"

It certainly reduces the amount of required thinking

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

The Cheshire Cat posted:

Wasn't there also a big thing about various people in charge of making the designs were jockeying for political favour, so they'd throw their weight around by demanding specific widgets get added, because their rival also had something added and they can't be outdone?

The biggest argument against "the efficiency of fascism" is the Nazi regime.

Yeah, the MAN Panther prototype had a waterproof engine compartment that no one asked for, for instance.

The inefficiency went both ways. British analysis of the PzIV concluded that someone from the ball bearings industry was handing out kickbacks, since there is no way that the tank needed so many ball bearings.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Food $200
Signal flags $150
Recovery vehicles $800
Ball bearings $3,600
Zimmerit $150
someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my reich is dying

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

Platystemon posted:

There’s an effortpost or two in the Milhist thread about just how impractical Nazi uniforms were.

I don’t recall tailoring, but they had vestigial internal suspenders.
the entire thing was held together with tiny metal hooks for...some reason

Red Bones
Aug 9, 2012

"I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

The Cheshire Cat posted:

The biggest argument against "the efficiency of fascism" is the Nazi regime.

I know the motivation for the fash is just vindictiveness and racism, but it does still make me laugh that anyone would get into Nazism as a political ideology today. Like it went so well last time, within twelve years Germany was a smoking crater that spent the next fifty years split in half.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
In just a few short years, Hitler took Germany from the most powerful nation on the continent to the fifth most powerful in Berlin.

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ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

The Cheshire Cat posted:

Wasn't there also a big thing about various people in charge of making the designs were jockeying for political favour, so they'd throw their weight around by demanding specific widgets get added, because their rival also had something added and they can't be outdone?

The biggest argument against "the efficiency of fascism" is the Nazi regime.

Yeah, their politics were pretty stupid. Another thing was that they rejected anything they decided was "Jewish science" which meant some of the most important recent advancements. Basically if a Jew did research they decided it was automatically bad and they'd find their own German way around. That of course doesn't work if there's really only one way around the issue but nah, gotta focus on that superior German engineering.

A lot of it also had to do with their deliberate rejection of meritocracy. Since they sorted the world into categories where inherently cool and good people were at the top those peoples' ideas could never be questioned even if they were blatantly, hideously wrong. Meanwhile if you were lower and somebody higher up told you that you were wrong then welp. That was why you ended up with Ratte being pushed. It didn't matter that the thing was completely insane idea a couple of really important people decided it was a good idea so the idea got worked on. Didn't matter that a 1,000 ton tank was one of the worst ideas possible for at least a dozen reasons.

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