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Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

aniviron posted:

This seems like cruelty to researchers. Is this ethical?

Pretty sure ethics boards all have a carve out for grad students.

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Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Cardiovorax posted:

Seriously. Youtube reviews haven't be a grassroots "honest reviews for gamers by gamers" thing for years. I almost prefer it when they actually tell you a video was sponsored by whoever - footage is footage and in the end I don't care about their opinions anyway.

Magmarashi posted:

"Games Journalists don't play games at all, and their positive reviews are all bought and paid for, Youtube personalities are the only objective and unbiased sources of information, furthermore SJWs..."

That's sorta the evolution of the talking process that goes on in my head the moment people start acting like those who have been around the industry for 15+ years don't care about or play video games, and youtube personalities aren't just as vulnerable to blacklisting and bribery, if not more so

Again, I think it has to do with what you're looking for in particular. There are big-name YouTubers who are sponsored and influenced by publishers, but there's still smaller channels and reviewers who still put out good stuff. Some of them still advertise, sure, but it's sometimes for services not really related to game reviews (BlueApron, CrunchyRoll, NordVPN, etc). In those cases, it's because that's how they make their money (provided they don't get it from Patreon or something).

With people who write for gaming outlets, I think there's a sentiment that a lot the long-time contributors have grown disdainful or have just gotten burned out with video games. Someone mentioned how reviewers have a 'queue', and I do think that is something that affects the critical lens for a lot of writers.

A while ago, there was one person (don't remember who it was or what outlet is was for) talking in regards to Sekiro, and the need to finish the game for a written review, the video review, and so forth in a set amount of time. However, their attitude towards it made it seems like they saw it as an obligation, and that to me really colors their final opinion on it. Even if was a game I really liked, and they had come out and said '10/10 5 stars best gaem since mario 128', I'd still be skeptical of it, since it seemed like their heart wasn't in it, and they just pushed something out to be done with their work.

It's not something that's done out of ill will or corruption, but just by the nature of the position. When you've got to review all the new AAA releases before your deadline*, you don't have the umpteen-thousands hours to time to put into a game like Street Fighter 5 or Crusader Kings II to judge how the game changes based on patches or how it fares between the first several hours of play vs a more long-term time investment.

* Granted you could ask for a deadline extension, but I think that's veering into a another topic

I wouldn't necessarily look towards YouTube or any gaming site as a whole, but rather seek writers or video creators who line up with the kind of games you're looking for, or whose critique addresses things you tend to focus on or care about in games.

Forsythia
Jan 28, 2007

You want bad advice?

Anything is okay if you don't get caught!

... I hope this helps!
Starbound Except Solid Snake Dies When Monsters Die

EAAAUGH!

There's a whole bunch of these now.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


hey i finally bought Into The Breach in this steam sale, and like everyone says it's a nearly perfect game, just needs ooooone teeeeensy tweak

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat
Is there any way to mod Giant Bomb to replace Vinny's model with Mario's?

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Max Wilco posted:

I wouldn't necessarily look towards YouTube or any gaming site as a whole, but rather seek writers or video creators who line up with the kind of games you're looking for, or whose critique addresses things you tend to focus on or care about in games.
I don't disagree, I just think it's also a bit naive to just expect that they'll be more honest or not have an agenda and financial interests of their own as a rule.

Backhand
Sep 25, 2008

TTBF posted:

Every single thing you've said here is as far from the truth as possible.

You could not find enough evidence of corruption across the entire history of games journalism to match up to an average week of gaming YouTubers. Turns out its a lot easier to bribe fanboys than professionals!

OK

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

KirbyKhan posted:

Is there any way to mod Giant Bomb to replace Vinny's model with Mario's?

Rude!

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

KirbyKhan posted:

Is there any way to mod Giant Bomb to replace Vinny's model with Mario's?

Mario 64 Mario? Mario Galaxy Mario? Or Ron Jeremy Mario?

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
I have noticed that Youtubers and streamers tend to be more upfront about it when they're getting free poo poo or getting paid to advertise something. It definitely happens exactly as often if not moreso, but the level of transparency about it seems somewhat different, in my experience.

TTBF
Sep 14, 2005



If only a group of researchers at a prestigious university had done a study into this. Then we could have conclusive answers instead of talking about what things seem like they might be.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Deathclaw Tiddies

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

Comparing it to the model on the left, I am shocked at the modder's restraint in regards to the deathclaw.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
That's some primo fivehead right there. I'll never understand that Neanderthal fetish.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

Doc Hawkins posted:

hey i finally bought Into The Breach in this steam sale, and like everyone says it's a nearly perfect game, just needs ooooone teeeeensy tweak

"It adds female pilots to the game? That seems like a good mod, I don't under-

Oh.

oh no"

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
That deathclaw has chin scrot or goiters.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

1stGear posted:

"It adds female pilots to the game? That seems like a good mod, I don't under-

Oh.

oh no"

yikes

yiiiiiiiiikes

Backhand
Sep 25, 2008
Is it wrong that I just chuckle at the reliability of people like that?

"Hmmm.... this is a good game, but it's just not WHITE enough..."

Orv
May 4, 2011

Backhand posted:

Is it wrong that I just chuckle at the reliability of people like that?

"Hmmm.... this is a good game, but it's just not WHITE enough..."

Well it's either that or scream forever and ain't nobody got time for that.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

SplitSoul posted:

Deathclaw Tiddies



It says something when you put boobs on a Deathclaw, but that's not the most bizarre looking thing in the image.

Doc Hawkins posted:

hey i finally bought Into The Breach in this steam sale, and like everyone says it's a nearly perfect game, just needs ooooone teeeeensy tweak

Something tells me that modded art isn't original, but taken from somewhere else.

-

Moving to something less disturbing, here's something I ran across a while ago: a showcase of a mod, or combination of mods for Men of War: Assault Squad 2. It's a combination of plastic green army men and Warhammer 40K minis fighting in a mock battlefield set up in a basement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sf2rYy7_vQ

It looks like this guy's whole channel is made up of different mods for Men of War: Assault Squad 2.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Quicksilver6 posted:

Oh hey, Jolly Wangcore. He's p cool but he just kind of takes in the awfulness of mods in amused confusion and horrific fascination as opposed to any outrage. He does seem to be aware of what makes content offensive and occasionally verbally disapproves, keeping him out of the CHUD zone for now. Also has a complete lack of sense of direction.

For examples of all of these, see the extremely terrible and confusing Half-Life Vietnam mod he bumbled through. Thank God I wasn't the one playing that horseshit.

The newer, fan-remade version of Heart of Evil was Heart of Evil: Napalm Edition. It took the original's already problematic South Park humor and just...butchered everything interesting and well-made about the mod.

Wangcore routinely lets weird things like rape jokes slip through his filter. His apologizing is part of the schtick; he is always sure to capture those "gamer moments" when he edits his streams for youtube.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money
Unsurprisingly, modders have already gotten to work on Bloodstained. Most of the mods are simple tweaks to make the map more functional, passive shards less gaudy. Or to over saturate your graphics.

:nws: Then there's one guy who thinks the monsters need nipples. :nws:

Diabetes Forecast
Aug 13, 2008

Droopy Only

Nuebot posted:

Unsurprisingly, modders have already gotten to work on Bloodstained. Most of the mods are simple tweaks to make the map more functional, passive shards less gaudy. Or to over saturate your graphics.

:nws: Then there's one guy who thinks the monsters need nipples. :nws:

...these already look horny enough as is, suprised it even needed this edit.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Diabetes Forecast posted:

...these already look horny enough as is, suprised it even needed this edit.
It's hard to really pick up on fine details while you're playing the game, but now that I see it side by side... well, that actually is kinda legitimately not much of a difference. I don't think I would've even noticed the change in-game. There are rather too many enemies who are really just "sexy demon lady in very skimpy clothing" to begin with for that.

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Cardiovorax posted:

It's hard to really pick up on fine details while you're playing the game, but now that I see it side by side... well, that actually is kinda legitimately not much of a difference. I don't think I would've even noticed the change in-game. There are rather too many enemies who are really just "sexy demon lady in very skimpy clothing" to begin with for that.

I didn't realize that the first boss didn't flagrantly have giant nipples in the unmodded game until I was looking through the enemy list later in the game. I mean seriously, look at that before and after and tell me that you could tell the difference if you didn't know to look for it.

quote:

Nude Conversion Completion List:
[ ] Scylla

:psyduck: For context, Scylla in that game is just... a clam. Just a loving clam. I guess there might be an anime lady inside it? But it's never open more than a few pixels at a time.

KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Jul 4, 2019

AngryRobotsInc
Aug 2, 2011

I told my friend there would be a nude mode for Miriam or a "nips on monsters" mod within the first 10 for Bloodstained, and he didn't believe me. ...I am not enjoying being right as much as I usually do.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

KataraniSword posted:

:psyduck: For context, Scylla in that game is just... a clam. Just a loving clam. I guess there might be an anime lady inside it? But it's never open more than a few pixels at a time.
Maybe they're planning to take the shell off. That would actually be really funny and self-aware.

AngryRobotsInc
Aug 2, 2011

KataraniSword posted:

:psyduck: For context, Scylla in that game is just... a clam. Just a loving clam. I guess there might be an anime lady inside it? But it's never open more than a few pixels at a time.




You can juuuuuust barely see the upper torso of a woman inside. The people that do these mods....they know there's free porn on the internet, right?

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

AngryRobotsInc posted:



You can juuuuuust barely see the upper torso of a woman inside. The people that do these mods....they know there's free porn on the internet, right?

If you're the kind of person that needs 100% of your day to be saturated in female nudity do you think that just visiting pornhub like a normal person is going to do it for you anymore?

Realtalk I think it's honestly just porn addiction and this is their way of being "functional". They want to do things other than just look at porn all day but they can't NOT do that.... so they just put porn in the other things they want to be doing.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

AngryRobotsInc posted:



You can juuuuuust barely see the upper torso of a woman inside. The people that do these mods....they know there's free porn on the internet, right?

Regular porn stopped working years ago for them, now they're deep down the rabbit hole of getting weird to get off.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

The Cheshire Cat posted:

If you're the kind of person that needs 100% of your day to be saturated in female nudity do you think that just visiting pornhub like a normal person is going to do it for you anymore?

Realtalk I think it's honestly just porn addiction and this is their way of being "functional". They want to do things other than just look at porn all day but they can't NOT do that.... so they just put porn in the other things they want to be doing.

That's my theory as far as nude mods generally go. It seems like obvious symptom of porn addiction and general difficulties with women but it's kind of in that awkward spot where you just kind of laugh at and then ignore the whole thing because nerds will be nerds and ít's not like you can force them to address the elephant in the room.

It only really causes myötähäpeä once they start trying to explain why it actually makes perfect sense in the lore and furthermore after all

Diabetes Forecast
Aug 13, 2008

Droopy Only
I think part of the mental gymnastics for this is castlevania was INCREDIBLY horny in both directions for awhile, with SotN having multiple straight up naked ladies and that one rondo werewolf boss that had his dick hanging out when he died. Or the one succubus secret boss that straight up had free hanging tiddy even in her illustration, therefore Bloodstained is only restrained because of being a wider western release?

Why do the nipples gotta be so weirdly realistic looking then???

Quicksilver6
Mar 21, 2008



Discendo Vox posted:

The newer, fan-remade version of Heart of Evil was Heart of Evil: Napalm Edition. It took the original's already problematic South Park humor and just...butchered everything interesting and well-made about the mod.

Wangcore routinely lets weird things like rape jokes slip through his filter. His apologizing is part of the schtick; he is always sure to capture those "gamer moments" when he edits his streams for youtube.

Oh. Well poo poo, that’s disappointing. Milkshake Duck strikes again

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Heart of Darkness (the original version, I mean) is :actually: a very interesting mod worth playing, despite some of its terribly aged humor (especially quite offensive Vietnamese stereotype material with NPCs). It's a well-made mod that's also an intense satire of a whole range of game design paradigms from the time period (especially resident evil), and has some interesting core gameplay balance decisions as well.


Then again I also think Half-Quake is a series everyone should play to completion, so what do I know.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

The Cheshire Cat posted:

Realtalk I think it's honestly just porn addiction and this is their way of being "functional".
lol what

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

Discendo Vox posted:

Then again I also think Half-Quake is a series everyone should play to completion, so what do I know.
Yeah, that's a reeeeeal tall order.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Have we actually discussed that series here? I really want to see an LP of them someday.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
Not sure, but I do know the trilogy was added to Steam fairly recently.

Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...
We've had awful Bloodstained mods now it's time for an awesome one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=383dCbazwFo

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AngryRobotsInc
Aug 2, 2011

Jagged Jim posted:

We've had awful Bloodstained mods now it's time for an awesome one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=383dCbazwFo

I like the one that just makes O.D. straight up Alucard, as well.

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