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We'll get to a point where a superhero release will do great at like 350Mil, and there's one every 5-9 months instead of every 2 months. Kind of like what the 90s were like
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FilthyImp posted:We'll get to a point where a superhero release will do great at like 350Mil, and there's one every 5-9 months instead of every 2 months. We didn't have that many superhero movies in the 90s.
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Jul 5, 2019 09:52
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Antivehicular posted:Yeah, nothing lasts forever. Even Supernatural, which was the juggernaut of all fandom spaces (and the crucible of tons of awful, awful fetishes) for over a decade, seems to be fading out in recent years; my assumption is that fandoms hit a tipping point where they're no longer the most trendy thing to write your generic porn about, and then the downward spiral of lowered production and demand takes hold. I wonder if there has been any actual research done on this sort of thing?
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Jul 5, 2019 11:39
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Josef bugman posted:I wonder if there has been any actual research done on this sort of thing? There was a cool article written by a guy named Ozymandias. Had a weird presentation though.
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Jul 5, 2019 12:18
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Elvis fandom has to be on its last legs at this point. I know the prices for memorabilia have dropped like a stone in the last decade as the average age of his fans has to be 70+ by now.
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Jul 5, 2019 13:06
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Maybe outside of Memphis.
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Sweevo posted:Elvis fandom has to be on its last legs at this point. I know the prices for memorabilia have dropped like a stone in the last decade as the average age of his fans has to be 70+ by now. Generally speaking, merch/collectible prices have tanked since 2008. Went down and never recovered. Not a big mystery on the whole.
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Jul 5, 2019 16:38
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Elvis was just the straight Little Richard and Pat Boone was the straight Elvis.
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Pick posted:The Onceler fandom on Tumblr was a loving time to be alive. I was never part but holy poo poo I really wish I understood Tumblr fandom in general better. There's some wiiiiild stuff going down on there, but I'm too old to wrap my brain around that site well enough to understand any of it.
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Jul 5, 2019 20:31
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It's my favorite fandom space because it's incoherent and stupid
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Sweevo posted:Elvis fandom has to be on its last legs at this point. I know the prices for memorabilia have dropped like a stone in the last decade as the average age of his fans has to be 70+ by now. i feel like this checks out since my own mom has gone full cycle from fangirl to fanma to franma re: elvis but grandad rock bands like pink floyd seem to linger on by picking up new blood in college or w/e i'm sure somewhere out there there's a van still luring kids into elvis fandom and i bet it has memphis license plates
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Jul 5, 2019 20:46
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It's calmed down a bit over the last decade or so but living in Memphis I can attest it's still alive and well, even (perhaps especially) internationally. I mean, this just happened last year.
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Jul 5, 2019 21:01
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Sweevo posted:Elvis fandom has to be on its last legs at this point. By comparison, a corn-fed clean cut white guy singing some bluesy riffs and shakin his hips while curling his lips seems quaint. Jerry Cotton posted:We didn't have that many superhero movies in the 90s. I mean, at one point Guardians was kind of the weird gamble film in the MCU. No reason we can't get, like, F4 as the tentpole and Moon Knight as the weirdo take. Or, basically, the DCEU schedule.
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hard counter posted:i feel like this checks out since my own mom has gone full cycle from fangirl to fanma to franma re: elvis but grandad rock bands like pink floyd seem to linger on by picking up new blood in college or w/e I feel like some of this is also because society regards pop culture popular with/marketed towards women and girls as disposable trash, while similar things marketed to/popular with boys and men are enduring art. (See also: early vs. late Beatles, where the fact that Beatlemania was a thing makes a ton of people write off half the band's output as "boy-band crap.")
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For some reason when Batman '89 broke the bank all the executives went "Eureka! That's it! We need to greenlight pulp-heroes who haven't been popular since the 30's!" This lead to The Phantom, The Shadow, Dick Tracy, and The Rocketeer which I guess people liked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EJdxTTwi7Y Inspector Gesicht has a new favorite as of 21:20 on Jul 5, 2019 |
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Man I thought The Shadow was so badass.
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Antivehicular posted:I feel like some of this is also because society regards pop culture popular with/marketed towards women and girls as disposable trash, while similar things marketed to/popular with boys and men are enduring art. (See also: early vs. late Beatles, where the fact that Beatlemania was a thing makes a ton of people write off half the band's output as "boy-band crap.")
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Antivehicular posted:I feel like some of this is also because society regards pop culture popular with/marketed towards women and girls as disposable trash, while similar things marketed to/popular with boys and men are enduring art. (See also: early vs. late Beatles, where the fact that Beatlemania was a thing makes a ton of people write off half the band's output as "boy-band crap.") 99% of rock and roll in was regarded as disposable trash until the mid-1960s. Most of the performers were young, the audiences were kids and the material was written that way. At the same time the Beach Boys were singing The Warmth of the Sun, they had no issue with songs like Dance, Dance, Dance. Both were singles. Derek Taylor had a lot to do with branding The Beatles, Brian Wilson and The Byrds as musical geniuses.
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FilthyImp posted:His cultural impact is hard to grasp when Cardi B is releasing a music video where she and her backup dancers are all nude. People in the 50s were literally making GBS threads themselves with fear over that fact that teenagers existed.
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Sweevo posted:People in the 50s were literally making GBS threads themselves with fear over that fact that teenagers existed. Suddenly the kids show excitement that isn't "golly gee golly this is a swell sound!" And it's nothing but "This primal music is inflaming their loins!!!"
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Sweevo posted:People in the 50s were literally making GBS threads themselves with fear over that fact that teenagers existed. Considering what lots of those teenagers got up to as adults they were right to be worried.
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tbf the 50s was also about where the media, especially cinema, started doing teenage coming of age stories more seriously and frankly, with films like rebel without a cause or east of eden, foreign outlets were getting in on it too with france's youthful sinners and germany's precocious youths for e.g. 40s teenager films were generally more wholesome and focused on getting through highschool academically, maybe your dad bought you a new-fangled automobile if you got good grades? then in the 60s you get quasi-modern stuff like the graduate or splendor in the grass which made 'eyes pop and the modest cheek burn' and by the 70s you've got some films looking back on days gone by like the last picture show which was set in '52 and would've caused terminal cases of shat pants if released then and summer of '42 which wasn't afraid to approach touchy subjects like: while young soldiers were off fighting nazis teenagers were using condoms to gently caress their wives scot free the compartmentalization was real but the market was also opening up to tolerate and reward well done stories hard counter has a new favorite as of 06:13 on Jun 8, 2020 |
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FilthyImp posted:That's... kind of the point? You get one or two big ones a year Yeah only we didn't. By any reasonable reckoning there were no more than five "big" superhero movies in the entire nineties and that includes Spawn which maybe two people on the planet would consider a "big one". 3D Megadoodoo has a new favorite as of 02:19 on Jul 7, 2019 |
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Jerry Cotton posted:Yeah only we didn't. By any reasonable reckoning there were no more than five "big" superhero movies in the entire nineties and that includes Spawn which maybe two people on the planet would consider a "big one". I have a hard time seeing the industry just dry up like Westerns. Even DC is sticking through their JL debacle with Shazam, Aquaman and WW.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Yes and they're the same people who were fans 15 years ago. That's not any kind of joke, it's just true. Speaking of, Megatokyo is still going and somehow has enough eyes on it to pull in $2k a month on Patreon.
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MT is kind of what Penny Arcade would have been if the guys had a little worse work ethic and never hired a competent (basically magic) financial manager.
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Bringing back Animorphs for just a bit - if there was ever a series that deserved a closer look, it was this one, though the strongest aspect of it was the wonderfully mapped out alien wars. There were unique planets (like one that had been struck so hard by a meteor that it looked like a smashed melon, but intellect life still existed in the split parts), the whole idea of intellectual parasites that can hold conversations with you while inside you, and (something neglected that certainly should not have been) the surprising number of hand who volunteered to be hosts to said parasites. What are their stories? Why are they doing it? What do they have to gain? So much unfulfilled potential.
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It was legit pretty solid sci-fi, honestly. The "Chronicles" books which took place outside the main storyline were genuinely very good reads as I recall, especially the Hork-Bajir Chronicles.
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Plethora posted:the whole idea of intellectual parasites that can hold conversations with you while inside you, and (something neglected that certainly should not have been) the surprising number of hand who volunteered to be hosts to said parasites. What are their stories? Why are they doing it? What do they have to gain?
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Strictly speaking, the Yeerks made a pact to supply them with loads of other aliens to eat as they conquered the galaxy.
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The Taxxons. And I believe once the Yeerks were defeated they were offered to morph into predatory animals in the Amazon like caimans and anacondas because living as a Taxxon was pure torture and not really meant for a sentient creature
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Anil Dasharez0ne posted:Speaking of, Megatokyo is still going and somehow has enough eyes on it to pull in $2k a month on Patreon. FilthyImp posted:MT is kind of what Penny Arcade would have been if the guys had a little worse work ethic and never hired a competent (basically magic) financial manager. On that note Gamestop just announced they're killing ThinkGeek. I'm picturing a "sad anime girl in snow" blanket and a case of Bawls energy drinks being symbolically burned at a anime convention, only for the shroud to fall away and reveal the lovecraftian visage of a Funko Pop, sending the mourners fleeing in terror.
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Kenning posted:It was legit pretty solid sci-fi, honestly. The "Chronicles" books which took place outside the main storyline were genuinely very good reads as I recall, especially the Hork-Bajir Chronicles.
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I might reread some Animorphs out of nostalgia if they would rerelease them as anthologies comprising 20 novels each or something. I stopped reading them because even by age 10 I was blowing through an entire book in like an hour and a half and it started feeling like a bad use of my money.
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FilthyImp posted:TMNT, Power Ranger, Crow, Mask, Phantom, Shadow, Spawn Yeah but seriously if you count any of those, compared to the current situation. Anyway, I don't think I ever heard/read anyone refer to the first four as superhero movies back in the nineties. Or later on.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Yeah but seriously if you count any of those, compared to the current situation. I definitely remember Crow and Mask bring referred to as superhero movies when they came out, which I think says a lot about the state of superhero movies on the 90s.
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Anil Dasharez0ne posted:Speaking of, Megatokyo is still going and somehow has enough eyes on it to pull in $2k a month on Patreon. How in the name of the Pope's nutsack
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Comic flicks were synonymous with superhero stuff. I mean, poo poo, they made Tank Girl.Tony Snark posted:How in the name of the Pope's nutsack I talk mad poo poo about Piro at any chance because of the blowup with Largo, but dude really needed a good therapist and life coach in, like, 2003.
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