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Hunt11 posted:Makoto was never a good damage dealer though? What makes her useful is her general utility and tankyness. The Media line and Marakukaja make Makoto an autoinclude for me. Any damage during spare turns is not important. Admittedly, Atomic Flare (with Nuke Amp) and that freaking insane endgame gun should make her a passable DPS, but she doesn't get Mind Charge if I recall correctly. Morgana is the other defensive support but he dies to a stiff
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I wonder how many people have triggered the Post-Valentine's Beatdown by just not having the heart to say no to Haru when she pops the question.
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 18:11 |
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Haru does have the absolute funniest Valentine's beatdown reaction though.
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 20:06 |
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Omobono posted:The Media line and Marakukaja make Makoto an autoinclude for me. Any damage during spare turns is not important. Makoto is a main stay for healing and damage. Also, there are not many personas resistant to Nuke, right?
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# ? Jul 10, 2019 11:16 |
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Makoto is honestly the best party member in the game. She's a Jack of All Trades done right who can slot in anywhere. She isn't amazing at anything, but she's good at everything, even without her absurd endgame gun. The fact that her element is rarely resisted and her weakness is the rarest enemy attack element in the game doesn't hurt, either. Or that her only competition for healing are both very squishy.
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# ? Jul 10, 2019 15:07 |
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Addendum XIV: Child’s Play Time to finally defeat Caroline and Justine, for real. These are the Personas I’m bringing into this fight. We’re starting with Cybele for Auto-Marakukaja at the start of the fight, and we’ll switch immediately to Yoshitsune for Hassou Tobis going forward. These will end up being the only two Personas I use in this fight, and I will only switch back to Cybele to heal when Makoto becomes indisposed for one reason or another. I presume you have grown stronger since your last attempt. OK, let’s do this! Yeah! As before, I will prepare an appropriate venue within Mementos. Come with me. Now then… do not disappoint us! Before we start, I’m going to explain some elements of my overall strategy heading in, and where they may fall short.
Okay, let’s finally get into this. I suggest you just watch the video if you care at all, because this fight doesn’t change up very much. I’ve already explained most of it. Boss: The Twins Music: Rivers in the Desert This examination is meant to draw out your true strength, after all. As I said earlier, they are going to hit (and crit) a lot. A lot of this fight is just buff maintenance to make sure they don’t nuke Maaku at the end of every round of knockdowns. We’re also going to miss a ton, too. Anyway, as earlier, this first round is just going to be Vajra Blast and Triple Down. Haru’s Heat Riser definitely helps, but I probably ended up using it on the wrong person. Maaku’s stats are kind of ridiculous with Yoshitsune equipped, and Haru probably needs the Defense and Agility more. Time for a phase change. This time Fire, then Ice, then Electricity, then Wind. And of course, they can and will inflict Burn, Freeze, and Shock, so watch out for that. Whoever said Technical attacks were pointless? It’s a little worrying that we’re already using up our party’s Endure skills this early in the fight. And here comes Diarahan. Already? We’re making good time. I may actually be able to enjoy this beyond the scope of our examination. Don’t let us down, Inmate! Another phase change. This time they’re going for Makoto’s Psy Weakness (it hits even with Dodge Psy, the cheaters), but the order is now Psychokinesis, Nuclear, Bless, Curse. We’ve unfortunately already spent Futaba’s Final Guard. This might be tougher than I thought going in… This is around the point when missed attacks start piling up, so I have to even their HP a bit by focusing single-target attacks on one or the other. Perhaps it is time I begin getting serious… Note: “getting serious” here just means they’re gonna use all the different kinds of attacks in order. It’s not that interesting, so let’s just skip forward a bit. Looks like we don’t need to go easy on you anymore… *chuckle* You’re way better than we thought you’d be, Inmate! We’ll give it all we’ve got from now on! See… the hidden truth…! For this phase, they’ll stick with the previous phase’s skill type order (Physical, Gun, Fire, Ice, Elec, Wind, Psy, Nuke, Bless, Curse), but this time use Severe-tier skills. By far the most interesting part of this phase is these two attacks, which cannot kill us but will halve our current HP. It didn’t happen in this run, but if you have a Persona that repels Bless or Curse and they hit you with the corresponding attack, it will launch back at them… dealing a few thousand damage to the twin it hits because it also halves their HP. Show us what lies beyond our limits! Show us who you are—who we are! D’okay. We’ve almost got them, but we should probably hold off for this turn. If we defeat one at the end of a turn and not the other, it’s gonna be a problem. One down... And there go the terrible twins. I’m not rerecording this to cut out the trophy notification, you gotta deal with it. Caroline and Justine, as well as Lavenza, are voiced by Carrie Keranen. Music: Aria of the Soul To a human…? Caroline laughs. It turns out even the rulers of power can’t measure everything! Caroline… What did you just… Hm? Did I say something weird? …… I will now tell you our embarrassing secret. I legit forgot we were doing that. To be perfectly honest… From time to time, a strange feeling of unease falls over us. It is almost as though we are not ourselves, or that our true selves are in a place far, far away. Huh…? We are meant to be leading inmates through rehabilitation, yet we have doubts about our own validity. Could there be anything more humorous than that? Oh, so that’s what you meant… Laaaaaaaaaaame. Are you not ashamed, Caroline? What did you think I was going to talk about? S-Stop! My heart can’t take this! If the poses I just saw in the fight weren’t the embarrassing ones, I’m not sure I wanna know what are. It was then that I knew for certain… Just as you have your goal of rehabilitation, we too have an objective we must achieve. We’re supposed to act as wardens for our master, right? Well, um… ...Inmate. I will now disclose the results of our examination. If I had to describe your current state… I require no thanks… After all, I am the one forcing my own issues upon you. If you continue to hold ties with us, we will surely arrive at the truth. Well, I won’t tell our master about this. It’ll just be one of our secrets. Wait… speaking of secrets, you only told him mine! This isn’t fair… You would like one from me? Recently, whenever the inmate takes prolonged absences from our chamber… Um According to human standards, directly conveying this emotion may be somewhat uncomfortable… But that is how I feel… Caroline is probably the same way. I simply… wanted you to know. Oh, you understand this is a secret to be kept between us, yes? That second option, gooooooooooooooooooooooddammit Sh-Shut up! She just said it’s a secret! O-OK, that’s enough of that. ...Yes. Any further discussion may interfere with our work. Things are gonna go back to how they were before. This special inspection was a one-time deal. Though… I think we might feel a little differently when we’re watching over you from now on… There’s no need to be modest. It was definitely a solid battle. Take it. It’s your reward for the special inspection. All of these items are rewards for making it to each phase of the fight. The Omnipotent Orb, on the other hand, makes the user immune to all damage except Almighty. It’s broken as gently caress. Usually they don’t let you use it against the series’ bonus bosses, but this time they do! Weird! Though you have to do it on a repeat playthrough because it’s the reward for winning it, natch. Now then, I’ll leave the rest to Justine. ...And don’t forget, your rehabilitation isn’t over yet! One more thing… Don’t tell Master about what happened here. You absolutely can’t tell him. You got that!? Honestly, I do not feel particularly guilty about keeping this a secret. O-OK, Inmate! We’re gonna be watching you close than ever now! Y-You better remember that! And Caroline disappears back into the Velvet Room. All there is now is some miscellaneous cleanup and the few remaining romance scenes. We’ll get to that in a bit. Arist fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Jul 11, 2019 |
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# ? Jul 10, 2019 18:08 |
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How old are these two nerds/Lavenza supposed to be?
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# ? Jul 10, 2019 21:00 |
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:How old are these two nerds/Lavenza supposed to be? Standard fare anime "oh they're actually ageless guardians of the Force or whatever so it's cool that a prepubescent is coming on to an adolescent" BS.
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:How old are these two nerds/Lavenza supposed to be? Somewhere between "created by Igor shortly before the game between him and Yaldy started" and "as old as mankind's collective unconscious" so like 8
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# ? Jul 10, 2019 21:45 |
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I choose to believe it's like having two younger sisters where they're both barraging him with "who is your favorite" and he's just going "aww shucks I love ya both" while ruffling their hair and poo poo. The other option is too horrifying to exist in this world
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# ? Jul 10, 2019 22:16 |
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At least we're not able to actually take them up on it, which leaves this situation squarely in the 'innocent but slightly creepy child crush' area, rather than the much more horrible 'young child hooks up with teenager' area. With this director, I wouldn't be totally surprised.
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# ? Jul 10, 2019 22:20 |
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booksnake posted:I choose to believe it's like having two younger sisters where they're both barraging him with "who is your favorite" and he's just going "aww shucks I love ya both" while ruffling their hair and poo poo. Yeah I always read it as "we actually like having you around and we think you're a friend" and the second option is your standard dickhead sarcastic response.
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# ? Jul 10, 2019 22:36 |
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If you pick the other option, Justine says she wouldn't want you to choose and wouldn't have a problem with you having both of them. In other words, they're down for a threesome. Thanks, Japan.
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# ? Jul 10, 2019 23:17 |
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Arist posted:
Is this comment meant to be somewhere else? This doesn't really seem like poor localization. It's a pretty dramatic way to put it, but that's appropriate.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 06:51 |
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Igor would be pissed if one of his helpers ran off from the Velvet Room following a poorly thought-out crush again.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 07:44 |
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Funky Valentine posted:Igor would be pissed if one of his helpers ran off from the Velvet Room following a poorly thought-out crush again. Maybe if he stopped inviting harem protagonists his attendants wouldn't develop a crush to begin with.
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Funky Valentine posted:Igor would be pissed if one of his helpers ran off from the Velvet Room following a poorly thought-out crush again. That's why you spay them when you have the chance.
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Qrr posted:Is this comment meant to be somewhere else? This doesn't really seem like poor localization. It's a pretty dramatic way to put it, but that's appropriate. I thought the phrasing sounded awkward but upon reflection you're right, it's fine. I'll delete that line.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 15:08 |
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Arist posted:I thought the phrasing sounded awkward but upon reflection you're right, it's fine. I'll delete that line. you were right, the phrasing is stilted, but it's still in line with everything else in this mess of a script that's not the intro or Shadow Kaneshiro
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 15:18 |
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Funky Valentine posted:Igor would be pissed if one of his helpers ran off from the Velvet Room following a poorly thought-out crush again. - Isn't in any good anime. - Can be replaced by her brother. - Crush is a door. - Bowl cut vs The Chad Margaret - Is in a good anime. - Can't be replaced. - Crush is a dancer. - Looks like a shampoo commercial
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 15:49 |
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The real reason we haven't seen Nameless or Belladonna in years is because they both ran off to marry Maya.YaketySass posted:That's why you spay them when you have the chance. Unfortunately, only Theodore got sent to the neuter scooter.
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Funky Valentine posted:The real reason we haven't seen Nameless or Belladonna in years is because they both ran off to marry Maya. Nameless and Belladonna got married years ago. Now if they'd only stop making Igor babysit maybe he could actually get some work done.
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# ? Jul 11, 2019 21:05 |
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So you're saying Nameless and Belladonna are every protagonist's lovely deadbeat parents
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# ? Jul 12, 2019 02:32 |
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Hwurmp posted:So you're saying Nameless and Belladonna are every protagonist's lovely deadbeat parents I think the intent is they’re the lovely deadbeat parents of every Attendant, but same energy really.
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Hwurmp posted:So you're saying Nameless and Belladonna are every protagonist's lovely deadbeat parents Lord_Magmar posted:I think the intent is they’re the lovely deadbeat parents of every Attendant, but same energy really. Either, both, it all works.
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# ? Jul 12, 2019 05:57 |
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They exist at all points in the timeline as the Velvet Room's soundtrack, but can only physically manifest when Atlas acknowledges the existence of Persona I and II. Kind of like Theo, but much worse.
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Geostomp posted:They exist at all points in the timeline as the Velvet Room's soundtrack, but can only physically manifest when Atlas acknowledges the existence of Persona I and II. Kind of like Theo, but much worse. - Atlus, probably
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# ? Jul 12, 2019 19:29 |
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PMush Perfect posted:The Virgin Elizabeth I prefer Elizabeth. She has some sweet moves (and is the best part of the anime anyway)
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# ? Jul 12, 2019 19:34 |
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DeafNote posted:I prefer Elizabeth. I love Liz, too. I'm a Theo fangirl at heart, but if I could have both of them at the same time in P3P, I absolutely would.
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# ? Jul 12, 2019 19:38 |
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Velvet Room Helper Power Rankings: 1) Margaret 2) Igor 3) Caroline and Justine 4) Elizabeth 5) Lavenza 6) Belladonna 7) Nameless 8) Demon Artist 9) Theodore 10) Whoever is driving the limo in P4 11) Getting hit by a bus 12) Marie
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# ? Jul 12, 2019 20:14 |
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Elizabeth's personality is by far the funniest but she suffers from being in the worst game ignoring personas 1 and 2, which don't exist
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Funky Valentine posted:Velvet Room Helper Power Rankings: Jen X posted:the worst game
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# ? Jul 12, 2019 20:33 |
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I like Marie.
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Apparently the main reason why they don't do anything with P1, IS, and EP is because the guy who wrote all of those games left the company after EP came out, and they're so loathe to do anything with the original games without his involvement that they asked him to return specifically to oversee the PSP rereleases and then let him go and do his own thing again, rather than trying to get him back on board.
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Lord_Magmar posted:I like Marie. Lord_Magmar posted:Good thing that it’s Ephebophilia anyway
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Funky Valentine posted:10) Whoever is driving the limo in P4 I'm amazed the anime for Golden managed to make Marie worse. The best part was when she decided to leave the show and the opening reverted back to one of the original P4's openings. I think those were the two Adachi episodes. Lord_Magmar posted:I like Marie. I found her to be a bit much, honestly. Her personality is a bit too big for a recurring gag. Persona Q taking the piss out of her a bit was fun, though.
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Gulping Again posted:Apparently the main reason why they don't do anything with P1, IS, and EP is because the guy who wrote all of those games left the company after EP came out, and they're so loathe to do anything with the original games without his involvement that they asked him to return specifically to oversee the PSP rereleases and then let him go and do his own thing again, rather than trying to get him back on board. pretty much this is why, and the guy has really been unhappy with the direction the SMT and it's sibling games have been taking or how the executives treated them. There's very few of the OG SMT and Persona people left at Atlus, they either retired or left to form their own companies.
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# ? Jul 12, 2019 21:39 |
Robindaybird posted:pretty much this is why, and the guy has really been unhappy with the direction the SMT and it's sibling games have been taking or how the executives treated them. The Great Index Clusterfuckening alienated a lot of Atlus' old hands and hobbled the company for years, and things were apparently Not Good before that, IIRC?
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The what?
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