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OK guys, I don't know what to do with this:  This is Sir Hiram Maxim, of Maxim gun fame, lifting his aircraft engine to show how light it is in 1894. It is a Steam aircraft engine, making 180 hp, using naphtha as fuel. Unfortunately, the boilers and water for it weighted some 2500 lbs, and Maxim soon concluded internal combustion engines would likely get a better power-to-weight ratio.
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Jul 18, 2019 18:59
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StandardVC10 posted:Boeing's still building them, and I suppose test flying them as well. They just can't deliver them, or operate any passenger flights. In fact they've actually run out of space to park the drat things up in Seattle, so apparently they're doing storage down in San Antonio also now. Why the hell would they not stop the line?
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Jul 18, 2019 18:59
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Nebakenezzer posted:OK guys, I don't know what to do with this: I wonder with better boiler and turbine tech and miniaturization nowadays if a steam airplane engine is more viable now. I mean theres really no point but its really cool steampunk.
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Jul 18, 2019 19:07
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:Why the hell would they not stop the line? They've got an order backlog years long already, and buyers lined up. Why would you stop the line? It's not like they can run it double-speed once a fix is in place.
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Jul 18, 2019 19:09
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Zhanism posted:I wonder with better boiler and turbine tech and miniaturization nowadays if a steam airplane engine is more viable now. I mean theres really no point but its really cool steampunk. It depends on the heat source too. Remember that nuclear B-36 which was entirely unfeasible due to the unshielded reactor being dangerous to the crew? What if there were no crew..?
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Jul 18, 2019 19:23
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Ola posted:It depends on the heat source too. Remember that nuclear B-36 which was entirely unfeasible due to the unshielded reactor being dangerous to the crew? What if there were no crew..? INES level 7 disaster when Boeing's autopilot does the needful into the end of the runway
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Jul 18, 2019 20:09
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We can make boilers that are about a million times better than they were 100 years ago. A modern high-tech steam engine might be interesting, but there's no will to design and build such a thing when it probably still wouldn't be quite as good as burning dinosaurs.
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Jul 18, 2019 20:10
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FuturePastNow posted:We can make boilers that are about a million times better than they were 100 years ago. A modern high-tech steam engine might be interesting, but there's no will to design and build such a thing when it probably still wouldn't be quite as good as burning dinosaurs. Well you still need the burning dinosaurs anyway unless you come up with some other way of running the boilers.
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Jul 18, 2019 20:26
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Sagebrush posted:Well you still need the burning dinosaurs anyway unless you come up with some other way of running the boilers. 
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Jul 18, 2019 20:29
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Sagebrush posted:Well you still need the burning dinosaurs anyway unless you come up with some other way of running the boilers. Mesquite fired boilers that cook steaks while powering the plane.
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Jul 18, 2019 20:29
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FuturePastNow posted:We can make boilers that are about a million times better than they were 100 years ago. A modern high-tech steam engine might be interesting, but there's no will to design and build such a thing when it probably still wouldn't be quite as good as burning dinosaurs. Plus the weight of the water for the steam.
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Jul 18, 2019 20:55
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e.pilot posted:Plus the weight of the water for the steam. We learned that it's simpler to just heat the air directly. And instead of a boiler, we use a turbine... and voila jet engine.
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Jul 18, 2019 21:11
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I tried to copy and paste the Aerofiles entry for Besler but my phone and the webpage had a disagreement, so there's this: https://youtu.be/2TtHOkgwrk8 And you can check Aerofiles under "Besler" at your own lesiure.
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Jul 18, 2019 21:13
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Ironically more environment-friendly than the thing it parodies.
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Jul 18, 2019 21:22
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I hadn't heard this story before, the solution to the problem is somewhat paradoxical and very hilarious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvHnJVzVkwg
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Jul 18, 2019 21:46
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I thoughta the maina feature of the harriera was thata she don’t need no runaway! -Giuseppe Vercotti, Italian Air Force
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Jul 18, 2019 22:00
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Ola posted:I hadn't heard this story before, the solution to the problem is somewhat paradoxical and very hilarious. This happened with an E-2 where they actually did have to shoot it down. According to legend it took the Hornet two passes with the gun to finally do it in. https://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-xpm-19910709-1991-07-09-9107090095-story.html
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Jul 18, 2019 22:16
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Warbird posted:They really ought to just market it as a built in auto landing feature. Yep. It's pretty cool, it basically gives you no-ads - and a bunch of high-level weather and fleet tracking stuff.
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Jul 18, 2019 22:16
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Top Gun 2: Rise of the Tomcat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbfC4lrNulE
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AzureSkys posted:Top Gun 2: Rise of the Tomcat fortunately it looks like they still have beach volleyball 
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Jul 19, 2019 02:13
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They understand how mythological the F-14 is due to the first one.
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Jul 19, 2019 02:20
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It would be a wonderful troll to have it be the enemy plane, after all Iran is the last operator.
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Jul 19, 2019 03:31
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I want to know more about that P-51 that's on screen for, like, five frames.
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Jul 19, 2019 03:49
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AzureSkys posted:Top Gun 2: Rise of the Tomcat Is it safe to assume the F-14 at the very end is CGI? Are there any non Iran Tomcats flying today?
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Warbird posted:Are there any non Iran Tomcats flying today? Nope. Every single one that wasn't given to a museum was chopped apart to prevent parts from getting to the Iranians. Even the museum birds were largely gutted down to the rivets and bare minimums needed to keep them from collapsing under their own weight.
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Ardeem posted:I want to know more about that P-51 that's on screen for, like, five frames.   (placing my bet on "flashback to maverick's dad")
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Jul 19, 2019 04:24
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Nope. Every single one that wasn't given to a museum was chopped apart to prevent parts from getting to the Iranians. Even the museum birds were largely gutted down to the rivets and bare minimums needed to keep them from collapsing under their own weight. Thus proving the superiority of the type. I mean, if the F-35 was capable of beating one, there wouldn't be any issues with the Iranians getting parts for their F-14s, right?
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Jul 19, 2019 04:40
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NightGyr posted:We learned that it's simpler to just heat the air directly. And instead of a boiler, we use a turbine... and voila jet engine. A Nuclear powered prop driven airplane is my fetish though. And totally doable with molten salt reactors.
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Jul 19, 2019 05:18
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Ardeem posted:I want to know more about that P-51 that's on screen for, like, five frames. https://twitter.com/eamonhamilton/status/1151991302449274882
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Jul 19, 2019 06:14
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As a retired pilot you can own and fly anything. 
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Jul 19, 2019 06:43
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Jul 19, 2019 07:20
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I suspect it's supposed to be some kind of drone VR helmet thing since that's apparently going to be a plot point.
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Jul 19, 2019 07:29
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Sagebrush posted:
Hmm, nice call. I'm going with "opening montage of happy-go-lucky times of joy, just flying the P51 for fun, before poo poo Gets Real"
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Finger Prince posted:Hmm, nice call. I'm going with "opening montage of happy-go-lucky times of joy, just flying the P51 for fun, before poo poo Gets Real" Maverick is cruising in his P51 when a sudden radio transmission blares out: Be advised two unidentified bogies at FL46 traveling at Mach 2 are vectored on your position. Jets appear to be Russian. Estimated time of intercept is two minutes. Return to base immediately. Maverick can feel deep in his gut that these are the guys. These are the guys responsible for Goose. GOOOOOOOOOSEEEEE he howls, as he punches the throttle and pulls up sharply. He flips open the console to reveal the emergency JATO system he had installed for this very day. His sunglasses flare with the light of a thousand beach ball sessions with Goose that would never come to be. He flips the switch and is punched back into his seat, rocketing into the heavens to meet his fate and perhaps, see his old friend. Time to pay, you Russian scum.
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Spoiler: Gooses Son is in an F35 which obviously isn't Full Mission Capable and dies too.
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"Those spaceships look just like DC-8s... And they're heading straight for that volcano!"
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Nope. Every single one that wasn't given to a museum was chopped apart to prevent parts from getting to the Iranians. Even the museum birds were largely gutted down to the rivets and bare minimums needed to keep them from collapsing under their own weight. I could swear I've heard of some group restoring one to airworthy. I can't find anything in a quick search though.
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Dr.Smasher posted:I could swear I've heard of some group restoring one to airworthy. I can't find anything in a quick search though. Yeah, I remember reading the same, but the gubbermint put the kibosh on it. There were a fair number of interested private buyers when they were retired, but the process of de-milling the A+ and D models (which still would've left them with parts for the Iranians) would've been way more costly than just chopping them up. As I recall, some scrapyard in Hampton Roads with the gear necessary to munch up titanium got a really sweet no-bid contract to mulch the east coast Turkeys. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jul 19, 2019 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Yeah, I remember reading the same, but the gubbermint put the kibosh on it. The real life equivalent of that old "gently caress your canoe" joke (An Englishman, a Frenchman and an American are captured by tribespeople, who say the penalty for trespassing is that the interlopers may die by a method of their choosing, and then their skin will be turned into a canoe. Englishman asks for a pistol, "Long live the queen", blappo to the head. Frenchman asks for a rope, ties it to the nearest tree, puts his head through the noose, "Vive la France!". American asks for a fork, starts stabbing himself everywhere. Horrified, the chief asks, "what are you doing?!" "What am I doing? gently caress your canoe!")
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