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The point of the PC Jr was that it was very, very important to IBM not to cannibalize sales of their full-price version. So the PC Jr had to be worse enough that people who had the money for a PC wouldn't buy it, but good enough so that people who didn't have that money wouldn't feel ripped off. They missed.
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Buttcoin purse posted:At least the model 30 was still ISA so it was only "weirdly incompatible", not "massively and intentionally incompatible" like the higher-end models that used MCA. Wikipedia says MCA was similar speed to PCI, and had PnP, but being high-end and not popular would have meant that they were really expensive. There was a low end model sold to schools that, honestly was a sexy AiO beast with two 3.5” drives. I really liked using those. I believe is was the PS/2 model 25.
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I was in high school at the time and my Dad announced he was going to get a computer. I assumed he was going to buy a PCjr or Apple II but he bought a PC XT I have that machine now and it still works. The Wizardry 1 5 1/4 game floppies I kept still work. My Mac IIsi and Quadra 800 won't even boot up
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I had an AT or XT keyboard that I thought would be cool to use and it was horrid. I like big clunky keyboards, but this one predated cursor keys and you don’t realize how often you use cursor keys until they’re gone. I think the AT’s came before the XT’s so it was probably the earlier one.
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when your home computer only had a 3.5" floppy drive but the game you wanted was only available on 5.25" discs  but also 
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Nothing like a steel frame keyboard that would break your toe if you dropped it.
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Pastry of the Year posted:when your home computer only had a 3.5" floppy drive but the game you wanted was only available on 5.25" discs I remember helping a girlfriend set up her new computer, but it only had a cd drive, so we had to go out and buy an external 3.5 drive because the internet software only came on floppy, and this brand new fancy laptop only had the cd drive. Good thing she had money, as that was $150 bux.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:The point of the PC Jr was that it was very, very important to IBM not to cannibalize sales of their full-price version. So the PC Jr had to be worse enough that people who had the money for a PC wouldn't buy it, but good enough so that people who didn't have that money wouldn't feel ripped off. [that_khaleed_guy_saying_a_thing.pcx]
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Lowen SoDium posted:Nothing like a steel frame keyboard that would break your toe if you dropped it. Saw what I'm almost certain was an IBM M2 in a sorta-scrap heap at a factory and was severely temped to ask if I could just take it, but I was a lowly contractor and figured they'd just say no. 
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LGR visited a famous computer shop/warehouse that is just full of crap for this thread. https://youtu.be/rvM82T3C2Ik Skip to about 13 min in if you want to avoid the preamble and just get to the place old PCs go to die. Also this video about a SEGA digital camera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2OLhp9Whp0 That you could attach it straight to your tv and broadcast was pretty nifty for the time.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:The point of the PC Jr was that it was very, very important to IBM not to cannibalize sales of their full-price version. So the PC Jr had to be worse enough that people who had the money for a PC wouldn't buy it, but good enough so that people who didn't have that money wouldn't feel ripped off. Kind of like how Commodore brilliantly followed up the success of the C64 with the amazing C16 and the C+4.
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twistedmentat posted:LGR visited a famous computer shop/warehouse that is just full of crap for this thread. I love LGR so much. I wish he lived next door to me
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Groke posted:Kind of like how Commodore brilliantly followed up the success of the C64 with the amazing C16 and the C+4. It's hilarious how incompetent Commodore were. They were a bunch of sleazy conmen who got lucky with the C64 and then thought they were geniuses despite pissing away millions on designing machines whose only competitors were their own products. They only ever released two good machines - the C64 and the Amiga, one of which was a fluke and the other designed by an outside team. Meanwhile their list of failures: the C16, C128, Plus/4, Commodore 900, C64GS, C64 LCD, C65, Commodore PC, and probably a dozen others that never got off the drawing board.
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Sweevo posted:It's hilarious how incompetent Commodore were. They were a bunch of sleazy conmen who got lucky with the C64 and then thought they were geniuses despite pissing away millions on designing machines whose only competitors were their own products. They only ever released two good machines - the C64 and the Amiga, one of which was a fluke and the other designed by an outside team. Meanwhile their list of failures: the C16, C128, Plus/4, Commodore 900, C64GS, C64 LCD, C65, Commodore PC, and probably a dozen others that never got off the drawing board. My favorite was when Sun loving Microsystems approached them and said "Let us build Amigas under license and put SunOS on them" and Commodore (then lead by idiots, Jack Tramiel had been forced out earlier) said "No." Friend of mine worked for GVP, a company that built peripherals for Commodore computers that Commodore itself refused to produce. GVP at one point was worth half of what Commodore was. He's got some good stories about how dumb Commodore became.
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Well to be fair, the Vic 20 was a cool machine also. Only thing wrong with it was that it was almost immediately obsolete, superseded by the mighty C64.
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Phanatic posted:He's got some good stories about how dumb Commodore became. 
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I had a Commodore PET and then a SuperPET (6809 and a 6502 at a rocket-like 1mhz!!!) with ROMs for microPascal and microFORTRAN). Then I got access to a VAX and an exclusive dedicated terminal to a MicroPDP-11/83.
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Post-Tramiel Commodore is a prime example of how a company can stay afloat for nearly a decade in spite of a management so bad you think they are getting paid by other companies to deep-six the company.
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Pastry of the Year posted:when your home computer only had a 3.5" floppy drive but the game you wanted was only available on 5.25" discs Should have had a mac, they only used 3.5 floppies. Of course you were also stuck playing whatever was popular enough on PC to get a port a year later. At least most of the 256 color Sierra era games got ported.
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Shibawanko posted:I love LGR so much. I wish he lived next door to me Yea, I wish we were friends and we'd hang out and talk about old computer stuff.
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twistedmentat posted:Yea, I wish we were friends and we'd hang out and talk about old computer stuff. And cook delicious sandwiches.
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Pastry of the Year posted:when your home computer only had a 3.5" floppy drive but the game you wanted was only available on 5.25" discs
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Triple A posted:Post-Tramiel Commodore is a prime example of how a company can stay afloat for nearly a decade in spite of a management so bad you think they are getting paid by other companies to deep-six the company. One of the stories about why Tramiel and Gould had their falling out is that Tramiel wanted to issue more stock so the company could pay off its debts, but that Gould refused to do it because Commodore's debt was held by companies that Gould also controlled. So it's possible they literally were being paid by other companies to run it into the ground.
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KozmoNaut posted:And cook delicious sandwiches. I'd pay him in sandwiches to frame the comic prints I have. That video of him fixing the Youtube Play buttons is very satisfying. Also he introduced me to PushingUpRoses who is one of my absolutely favorite Youtubers. I liked the video for the warehouse because he doesn't mentioning too many specific things but if you're observant, you can see stuff, like the zip drive just sitting there in a box, alone, or that IBM All in one which I'd never seen before.. Also just how varied computer cases are, and when the last time you saw a desktop that wasn't a tower case? I'm really curious to find out if the computer he got that was originally from Sierra works and if there anything interesting on it.
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Just in case you didn't know already, Clint has a cooking channel as well, which he apparently started to work on his video editing skills, and it sort of took off into its own little thing. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz9uUFDhsPYii-ZihoKsbPg
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Triple A posted:Post-Tramiel Commodore is a prime example of how a company can stay afloat for nearly a decade in spite of a management so bad you think they are getting paid by other companies to deep-six the company. No collusion! 
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http://twitter.com/PulpLibrarian/status/1155139839836262401
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Naw naw your fingernails are too neat, too trim. Anyone here got some grody rear end nails? Yeah yeah, those are perfect.
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Where the gently caress is the Nokia 8210 what a trash loving list! 9 because my mom walked into Radio Shack to browse and the register monkey saw a mark 10 seconds in. 
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Mine was 4, too, but my mom had 1 and a bag phone before it, and dad had a Motorola cell phone installed in his ‘91 626 for some reason.
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My ex had a 4. I had a 12.
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LifeSunDeath posted:6, 9 Nice
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It was a landline. The kind that was on the wall with the tangled cable. You know the one.
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Cell phones? About a 5-6 but it was more like a 3. Ma Bell was what I had until then. I think we were on pulse dial at my place in college in the 90's. I was a late adopter. Never wanted to spend the money. I think I got my first cell phone about 2003ish Loved that phone. It was USWest branded, don't remember the manufacturer. It had a battery that lasted for days of talk time. I could drop it 15 feet to concrete and it would be just fine. The battery was so big that you couldn't fit it in your pocket. You had to keep it on your hip.
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blugu64 posted:It was a landline. The kind that was on the wall with the tangled cable. You know the one. bitchin’! Mine was a Fisher-Price it had my dudes Grover and the Cookie Monster on speed dial. it ruled
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