blarzgh posted:On an entirely different note, does anyone have any suggestions for rearranging my office?  It's not a lot of space to work with, tbh. How soundproof is the room? Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Jul 22, 2019 |
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blarzgh posted:On an entirely different note, does anyone have any suggestions for rearranging my office? In this thread: people who don't have to factor "leaving myself an escape route" into their office setup. (I kid, maybe you folks do; I don't know your lives.) Also on my list of office setup considerations is "discouraging people from spending time in my office."
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Jul 22, 2019 22:50
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How could you post a pic without any square footage
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Jul 22, 2019 22:50
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Also, which wall should I put the couch?
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Jul 22, 2019 22:57
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First thing I did with my current office is face the desk to the door . It’s huge
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Jul 22, 2019 22:57
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blarzgh posted:Also, which wall should I put the couch? A+ If you'd like some serious suggestions, it'll depend on how often and when you use the bookshelf and filing cabinet (right now your filedrawer is next to where guests...presumably sit, which is a bit of a risk). who and how do you prefer to use the whiteboard?
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Jul 22, 2019 22:58
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1) My computer screens are parallel to the door, and it looks down a hallway, so no one can see the screen until they actually come in the office. 2) Its a weird space because it used to be two tiny rooms, and now its one - I'm not measuring the goddamn thing. 3) All of the other furniture is pointless; any of it can go, but I've toyed with the idea of buying a couch and have never pulled the trigger (and probably won't) But obv. this is the correct answer:
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Jul 22, 2019 23:03
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Discendo Vox posted:A+ Never use the filing cabinet - its just for looks, and empty binders. Use the bookshelf once/week, and would use it more often if I moved active hearing binders to it and off the top of the credenza. Clients hang out in here about once a month for various things like depo prep, or reviewing interrogatory responses. Edit: Use the whiteboard all the time b/c my brain is a lovely mess and drawing/listing things out is the only way to manage it
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Jul 22, 2019 23:05
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Thanks for the thoughts. Accepted the counter for a 15% raise and a reassignment between partners. I've either just negotiated myself into a good job or a terrible one. Can't wait to find out. Also, Blarzgh, lol if you don't have to climb over your desk to see what is on your monitor.
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Jul 22, 2019 23:11
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Do you ever use the whiteboard in your office collaboratively, or to explain things to others? Do you use your office for client meetings? If you only use the whiteboard for yourself, my advice would bet to rotate the desk 180, swap the credenza and filing cabinet, and put a small round table (think 3 people) in the area across from your desk with some chairs that can be easily used for either seeing people across your desk, or together at the table.
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Jul 22, 2019 23:17
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Discendo Vox posted:If you only use the whiteboard for yourself, my advice would bet to rotate the desk 180, swap the credenza and filing cabinet, and put a small round table (think 3 people) in the area across from your desk with some chairs that can be easily used for either seeing people across your desk, or together at the table. I spent like 2 full years with a small round table in my office, and do you know what happened? PEOPLE SAT AT IT. The table encourages such behavior. Do not trust the table.
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Jul 22, 2019 23:43
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Flip the cabinet so it’s against the wall and/or just get rid of it and set your desk as close to the window as possible so you can stare wistfully and meditate on your life choices. Seriously, though, windows, even with a lovely view, should not be taken for granted. Also I have an L-desk and it’s great. Do you guys keep your computer monitor right in front of you or to the side? I hate having it to the side because it fucks with my neck but also if it’s in front of me it’s awkward when I have clients over?
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Jul 23, 2019 00:15
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Seconding all pro-window comments. You don't know how much you should value them until you don't have them. The two creature comforts I fight for: windows, and a TV in my office so I can have the news on.
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Jul 23, 2019 00:29
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blarzgh posted:1) My computer screens are parallel to the door, and it looks down a hallway, so no one can see the screen until they actually come in the office. But without measurements how can we assess whether the stripping platform is up to code??
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Jul 23, 2019 00:49
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Hoshi posted:My PMs are open if you need any Excel tips bb At this point the only thing I haven't done this semester was dive into VBA. I could add VBA to my final exam model for one class, but it's not really necessary.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:12
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Mr. Nice! posted:At this point the only thing I haven't done this semester was dive into VBA. I could add VBA to my final exam model for one class, but it's not really necessary. Okay fine, what's your fanciest sumproduct? I'll judge on you that
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Jul 23, 2019 01:16
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Hoshi posted:Okay fine, what's your fanciest sumproduct? I'll judge on you that haven't had to use sumproduct much. I've got a lot of offset action going on. Our final project is to build a decision making model for two different retirement plan options that have flexible inputs. We had to add random risk to simulate actual returns. I based mine entirely off of Vanguard's Target Year funds and related portfolios. Using a monte carlo setup I generated a five thousand different outcomes to make a cumulative frequency table that shows the range of predicted results based upon his inputs and a random market.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:20
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Roger_Mudd posted:Thanks for the thoughts. Nothing stopping you from searching for a new gig in the meantime.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:21
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Roger_Mudd posted:Thanks for the thoughts. Retention bonuses are pretty standard in big law - I wouldn't fret it - if it turns out you still have to work for guy who sucks - you can always leave again.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:34
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Mr. Nice! posted:haven't had to use sumproduct much. I've got a lot of offset action going on. Our final project is to build a decision making model for two different retirement plan options that have flexible inputs. We had to add random risk to simulate actual returns. I based mine entirely off of Vanguard's Target Year funds and related portfolios. Using a monte carlo setup I generated a five thousand different outcomes to make a cumulative frequency table that shows the range of predicted results based upon his inputs and a random market. Good on you, not shying away from offsets. Keep on exploring poo poo. Use index match over lookups for the love of loving god.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:01
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Hoshi posted:Good on you, not shying away from offsets. Keep on exploring poo poo. Use index match over lookups for the love of loving god. oh yeah vlookup and such is depreciated and slow. One of my classes this semester has literally been excel: the class, so I've done some good work. Now I just need to find some sort of job.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:18
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Kimsemus posted:Seconding all pro-window comments. You don't know how much you should value them until you don't have them. I got force moved into an office with a window because apparently senior (lol) attorneys need to have windows. Our window offices are generally small, which the exception of attorneys who've been here for decades and finally secured a big office. I moved from a giant inside office where I could do exercises and poo poo to an office I can barely fit my loving bike in. It sucks. I do have not chairs, except my own, which does rock. Though you can do dips on our guest chairs.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:21
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Mr. Nice! posted:oh yeah vlookup and such is depreciated and slow. One of my classes this semester has literally been excel: the class, so I've done some good work. Now I just need to find some sort of job. Getting good at Excel is basically the only way I'm better than any of my peers, and it's only because I put in the practice lol
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Jul 23, 2019 02:53
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I need an excel class.
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Jul 23, 2019 03:34
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Excel owns. I miss my pre-law-school days of getting to make fun of people who used the mouse. Now I use it once a month and when I send something to junior associates they call me with questions like how to make decimals show as percentages. If you want an Excel class, just unplug your mouse. Also vlookup is fine for small lookups though index/match/offset is definitely better. And if you want to learn to make a financial model, pick any company you find interesting and challenge yourself to make a working 3 statement model. As you add detail to it and project it forward you’ll learn a ton.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:42
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Government law. Edit: I missed "much much more lucrative." Do that unless you'd hate it. nm fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Jul 23, 2019 |
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Jul 23, 2019 08:21
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If you think you'll like making money and running the family business, why not? Don't not do a thing just because you've sunk a lot into another pathway. Who cares about prestige compared to doing something interesting and making good money doing it?
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Jul 23, 2019 08:32
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Hoshi posted:Getting good at Excel is basically the only way I'm better than any of my peers, and it's only because I put in the practice lol Every so often at my job I bust out an amazing spreadsheet and get asked how I got so good at excel, and need to come up with a lie on the fly to cover up the actual answer which is “from playing eve online”
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Jul 23, 2019 12:43
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My god why would you have tv news on
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Jul 23, 2019 12:50
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Ani posted:If you want an Excel class, just unplug your mouse. Also vlookup is fine for small lookups though index/match/offset is definitely better. The keystroke culture was strong one of the places I interned but seemed to stop at Excel, no one was willing to commit to navigating everything that way which made me think they weren't that serious Also yes lookups are fine in that they work as intended but people would also say that about macro recorder despite it being transparently garbage.
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Jul 23, 2019 13:01
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Organza Quiz posted:If you think you'll like making money and running the family business, why not? Don't not do a thing just because you've sunk a lot into another pathway. Who cares about prestige compared to doing something interesting and making good money doing it? Seconding this. No one gives a gently caress about "prestige" unless you plan to run for the Senate or you want to lateral into big law.
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Jul 23, 2019 13:40
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Roger_Mudd posted:Anyone ever resign, get a counter offer by current firm, and stay at current firm? I had a coworker do this and the second that profits dipped he was the first one axed
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Jul 23, 2019 14:56
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euphronius posted:My god why would you have tv news on I've always enjoyed the low-level noise when I'm in the mood for it, and just having it on in the background otherwise. sincx posted:Okay, advice needed. It sounds like the real concerns are balancing during purely legal work/"prestige" versus earning more money in the family business. Prestige is relatively worthless -- you can't bank it, spend it, pay your bills with it, and it mostly only matters to you. It might matter if you're going from one big firm to another, but I don't know. The family business isn't so bad -- you can still be a cornerstone in your community, your legal training will still be useful, and there is something to be said to continuing the family business through generations. I never had that option -- consider yourself lucky in that regard. Fail that, if you hate big law or the workload but still want OK money and still want to be a lawyer? Jump ship like I did, join government law. The fed is hiring like crazy right now and it's a good time to get in.
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Jul 23, 2019 15:03
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Go work for yourself and make lots of money, law school really must have hosed your brain up if you are even debating this. “Well I don’t like my job and I don’t make much money and my parents had to outsource the family business and lose out on income...but at least people know I’m a lawyer” is something nobody should ever think or say. Pro tip: regular people think lawyers suck. Only other lawyers think anything of your “prestige” and it’s either (a) I’m better than that lawyer  or (b) that lawyer is better than me and I’m a failure 
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Jul 23, 2019 15:05
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Kimsemus posted:The fed is hiring like crazy right now and it's a good time to get in. Lol yeah enjoy that labyrinthine hiring process. Go make money and be happy.
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Jul 23, 2019 15:20
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Staff generally respect lawyers I guess
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Jul 23, 2019 15:22
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Kimsemus posted:The fed is hiring like crazy right now and it's a good time to get in. Someone needs to file the deportation orders after all.
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Jul 23, 2019 15:32
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euphronius posted:Staff generally respect lawyers I guess The same way lawyers respect clients—need them to put food on the table
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Phil Moscowitz posted:
Outside of legal culture, respect and pay seem to be inversely correlated. Working for a nonprofit in public interest law I frequently find myself introduced as "one of the good ones," endquote. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Jul 23, 2019 |
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