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All I know is I got a bunch of potato seeds and a book on what animals and plants are good to gather and hunt so I am prepared.
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Shima Honnou posted:All I know is I got a bunch of potato seeds and a book on what animals and plants are good to gather and hunt so I am prepared. Lol the rich still own all the land and will gladly shoot regugees
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Shima Honnou posted:All I know is I got a bunch of potato seeds and a book on what animals and plants are good to gather and hunt so I am prepared. that this was the bonafide D&D solution was funnny as heck
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ikanreed posted:Lol the rich still own all the land and will gladly shoot regugees By then I will be more potato than man and unstoppable Xaris posted:that this was the bonafide D&D solution was funnny as heck I know lol, come the gently caress on of course we won't forget how to grow potatoes, the loving planet is the one that's going to forget.
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They can't keep AC window units in stock in Anchorage, the water in one of the salmon streams just hit 80 degrees and we've had about 5 days of light rain in the past two months. Someone made a new bumper sticker to commemorate this awful summer. 
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Shima Honnou posted:By then I will be more potato than man and unstoppable the irish potato famine happened because the irish spontaneously forgot how to grow potatoes one day
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Xaris posted:that this was the bonafide D&D solution was funnny as heck this is the real punchline: Squalid posted:I'm finishing a Masters in natural resources
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Jul 24, 2019 17:01
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We like to think of potatoes as Irish food but do you know who else loved potatoes? That's right. 
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vyelkin posted:the irish potato famine happened because the irish spontaneously forgot how to grow potatoes one day
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They probably didn't have any handbooks about it.
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i love that there is people that think they'll just become wood hermits and live off the land as if their some loving genius and no one else has had the same idea. where the gently caress are most people going to go to forests untouched by human hands where there's actually stuff to live off, and how are you going to walk halfway across the country to the tetons or rural canada from arizona or w/e. most northeast forests are relatively developed and don't have much animals to eat, and there is very little berries or mushrooms to eat. sierras are almost a wasteland also most of them will have burnt down in 30 years, and the bottom of the food chain like insects n poo poo are dying off so even less mammals n stuff to kill. only a small portion can eat all the buffalo n elk n bears in yellowstone and then that'll go extinct quickly--assuming they can even get there.
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100% of the remaining humans are going to live off the estimated 4% of wild animals remaining. 
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i'm very good at stardew valley. it's ez pz
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i will live in the remaining oak forests untouched by sudden oak death. i will hunt the wild mushrooms, armed with only my wits and opposable thumbs against the nefarious cunning of the fungal kingdoms. when beleaguered travelers come across my mushroom kingdom and see me on my throne of mycelium they will weep, finally understanding that they are dying of their own hubris and greed. my fungal attendants will slowly grow around them, absorbing their nutrients and memories for preservation in my burgeoning mycorrhizal worldsoul.
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lmao @ people thinking they can wilderness survival in a climate change civilization collapse scenario the wilderness ecosystem is going to look like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFNxJVTJleE
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Xaris posted:i love that there is people that think they'll just become wood hermits and live off the land as if their some loving genius and no one else has had the same idea. where the gently caress are most people going to go to forests untouched by human hands where there's actually stuff to live off, and how are you going to walk halfway across the country to the tetons or rural canada from arizona or w/e. most northeast forests are relatively developed and don't have much animals to eat, and there is very little berries or mushrooms to eat. sierras are almost a wasteland Sounds like the best course of action is to ambush and eat the people that think they can live off the forests becoming a cautionary folk tale of skyborne obese men who descend from the trees to prey upon the malnourished.
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dream9!bed!! posted:it's really hard to work when the data of the last few pages is occupying your head. like, gently caress your analytics dude, there's not gonna be any more birds couple keys to work through it 1) give yourself a few days to digest it, it's gonna gently caress you up 2) do not regularly read this thread, these guys love working themselves into a downward spiral until they're openly fantasizing about mad max hellscapes
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Yinlock posted:couple keys to work through it hey, whoa, i'm not on a downward spiral. i'm circling on the bedrock
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Gareth Gobulcoque posted:remember when the worldwide recession of 2008 caused co2 emissions to dip by 2.5% and we have to double that year over year to maybe kinda sort of avoid complete catastrophe. Number must go down.
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Xaris posted:i love that there is people that think they'll just become wood hermits and live off the land as if their some loving genius and no one else has had the same idea. where the gently caress are most people going to go to forests untouched by human hands where there's actually stuff to live off, and how are you going to walk halfway across the country to the tetons or rural canada from arizona or w/e. most northeast forests are relatively developed and don't have much animals to eat, and there is very little berries or mushrooms to eat. sierras are almost a wasteland It's cool being from a farming family on both sides so I have like a half dozen family farms to retreat to if things get bad, one has sheep, a few have guns, one is a potato farm, etc
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if you aren't constantly f5ing this thread what is even the point of being alive??????
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Gareth Gobulcoque posted:remember when the worldwide recession of 2008 caused co2 emissions to dip by 2.5% and we have to double that year over year to maybe kinda sort of avoid complete catastrophe. Has anyone run the numbers on how much closing the Persian gulf will drop co2 when no middle eastern oil can get anywhere
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I keep thinking about the opening scenes of Interstellar. Anyone remember that movie?
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Gareth Gobulcoque posted:remember when the worldwide recession of 2008 caused co2 emissions to dip by 2.5% and we have to double that year over year to maybe kinda sort of avoid complete catastrophe. What you're saying is that we get to look forward to unseasonably cool weather ~37.5 years after the recession thanks to the delayed effect.
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Oxxidation posted:if people knew the story of their own lives how many would then elect to live them Definitely not me! SKULL.GIF posted:I keep thinking about the opening scenes of Interstellar. Anyone remember that movie? Whenever I think of our crappy future I either think of Mad Max like blood baths or those scenes. I dunno what it says about me that orgies of violence and a world where the education system pushes people to become farmers instead of scientists or engineers and out right lies to children to do so via legitimizing stuff like the moon hoax are equally scary to me. Whenever I start screaming my head off about not wanting to spend my life digging in the dirt, it's Interstellar that I see. AceOfFlames has issued a correction as of 17:50 on Jul 24, 2019 |
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mastershakeman posted:It's cool being from a farming family on both sides so I have like a half dozen family farms to retreat to if things get bad, one has sheep, a few have guns, one is a potato farm, etc Potatoes to hunt, sheep to gather, this guy is ready to rock.
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SKULL.GIF posted:I keep thinking about the opening scenes of Interstellar. Anyone remember that movie? Where they admit they faked the moon landing
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Oxxidation posted:this is the real punchline: I'm kindof glad that post was memorable because it was always meant to be absurd, and point out the ridiculousness of apocalyptic thinking. I'm sort of confused as to what people think my intentions were. "We will be able to grow potatoes in the future" is not exactly a high bar to expect humanity to clear. It's meant to point the absurdity of survivalist fantasies from the other direction of those here saying its impossible because there's not enough elk, its also ridiculous because regardless of how many elk there are it will always be easier to grow and eat plants. AceOfFlames posted:Definitely not me! Yinlock posted:couple keys to work through it These two posts together nicely illustrate why I felt it worthwhile to make the point that there's no scientifically grounded argument for human extinction scenarios. People like AceOfFlames literally have panic attacks thinking about purely fictional depictions of the end of the world. Even worse, racists like Rime use those same fictional stories as a justification for starving and killing the world's poor. Like Yinlock pointed out there's nothing productive in these misanthropic fantasies, and we shouldn't mistake eschatology for climate science. Just because bad things are possible doesn't make them inevitable.
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Two things. 1. Michigan sucks and I don't look forward to migrating there when we start abandoning entire states. 2. Yinlock posted:couple keys to work through it Lmao
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Xaris posted:that this was the bonafide D&D solution was funnny as heck "haha people won't forget how to grow potatoes" says man pushing seed potatoes into infertile soil
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Xaris posted:i love that there is people that think they'll just become wood hermits and live off the land as if their some loving genius and no one else has had the same idea. where the gently caress are most people going to go to forests untouched by human hands where there's actually stuff to live off, and how are you going to walk halfway across the country to the tetons or rural canada from arizona or w/e. most northeast forests are relatively developed and don't have much animals to eat, and there is very little berries or mushrooms to eat. sierras are almost a wasteland It all stems from the same inability to consider future consequences that created the problem in the first place, no on wants to consider 350 million people trying to subsist on depleted land so they just don't think it through I talked with a Greenpeace guy outside the grocery store who wanted me to donate to a campaign to keep plastics out of the ocean, he got really mad when I told him that it was too late and that no amount of petitions are going to stop the great dying and human extinction. I would have thought an ardent environmentalist wouldn't be so opposed to contemplating our mortality, but I guess it's just too much for anyone to take
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Gonna move to the forest. Stay there when it burns. Die warm.
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Shima Honnou posted:Once you leave Michigan you're dead to me until you come back. If you live right on the border of Michigan, you're like a skeleton that keeps dying and reanimating every time the necromancer in the next room paths within range.
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Mayor Dave posted:It all stems from the same inability to consider future consequences that created the problem in the first place, no on wants to consider 350 million people trying to subsist on depleted land so they just don't think it through really if these issue are just a matter of faith for you i don't know why you wouldn't pick a religion that encourages positive feelings rather than nihilism. I understand its difficult to deal with uncertainty, but nobody is capable of knowing the future, definitely not anybody itt.
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the number of people in his thread or in DND that are worried about climate survivalism is kinda cute. much like the Irish potato famine most fatalities are not gonna be from starvation itself. they are gonna get evicted from some place, end up homeless, and will die of typhus or dysentery in a ditch somewhere, covered in their own feces and vomit. meanwhile the more well off will drive by pitilessly in their fancy cars, because if you have money every necessity of life will still be available in abundance at this early stage. edit: I should say genuinely worried about survival. my maggot farm plan is above criticism edit2: if you want ideas for how this works just read the landlords.txt thread. Torpor has issued a correction as of 19:07 on Jul 24, 2019 |
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Squalid posted:really if these issue are just a matter of faith for you i don't know why you wouldn't pick a religion that encourages positive feelings rather than nihilism. I understand its difficult to deal with uncertainty, but nobody is capable of knowing the future, definitely not anybody itt. someone who's ostensibly going to grad school in the sciences: we cannot extrapolate outcomes based on evidence
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Oxxidation posted:someone who's ostensibly going to grad school in the sciences: we cannot extrapolate outcomes based on evidence there is no evidence of impending human extinction. AceOfFlames's over there is not hyperventilating about mohawked raiders forcing him to till the soil based a rigorous study correlating hairstyle with global temperature
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