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This may have been one of the most idiotic decisions WCW ever made. Every match after his unmasking made it look like giant men were beating up a literal child. I'm still shocked that WWE never made the same mistake.
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Unmasked Rey is one thing. Unmasked Rey with DEVIL HORNS like he had on the final Nitro is somehow even worse.
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The American Dream posted:The worst one they dropped the ball on was Austin because they knew how good he was. He was upper midcard on his way to main event for 2 years before hogan and his buddies came in. The funniest thing is, if isn't wasn't for WCW and the Monday Night War, WWE most certainly would've dropped the ball on Austin and Foley as well.
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I just realized that now only Sting survives from those who were invited to a party...... AT THE WHITE CASTLE OF FEAR! 
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Once I heard Hogan said he only invoked his CC clause twice. Now while I have a hard time believing anything that comes out of Hogans mouth I also realize that he probably barely ever needed CC since Bischoff would snap his spine to accommodate him.
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Or Nick Patrick, I guess.
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Maxwell Lord posted:I know that WWF were wanting to build to Hart/Hogan at Summerslam 93 and Hogan insisted on putting Yokozuna over instead, do we know if he also helped keep Bret from getting anywhere in WCW? Bret/Hogan was supposed to be one of the destinations from the Starrcade 97 main event. They stop/started on it a couple of times and after briefly feuding Hart with the nWo they put him in/adjacent to the nWo to eventually go back there. Then Hogan bailed for the fall to "run for President/return after football season" and was feuding with Flair when he got back. Then he got surgery and Owen died. So now the story changes. Hogan now sees money in a match with Bret, and he pushes for a match at Fall Brawl, but that doesn't happen either so we get the Sting heel turn and then Russo comes in. Russo's plan for Hogan is to make him an anti-authority babyface so they do the worked shoot at Havoc and he vanishes, and Bret's career is over before he gets back.
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Jerusalem posted:I just realized that now only Sting survives from those who were invited to a party...... Wrestling is hosed up. 6 people who participated at that SuperBrawl are dead now and that was only in 1993. For frame of reference, 2 players from the 1993 Super Bowl starting lineups are dead despite it featuring more than twice as many participants
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The first Royal Rumble, in 1988, had 20 participants. One third of the field have passed away.
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Not to take away too much from all of the premature deaths and tragedies in wrestling, but some of those stats are skewed by how wrestlers work long past the age that most other pro athletes would. Which probably also contributes to premature deaths, but unless we have different lists of "six participants at Superbrawl III": Chris Benoit (26 at Superbrawl III) Brian Pillman (31 at Superbrawl III) Davey Boy Smith (31 at Superbrawl III) Big Van Vader (38 at Superbrawl III) Harley Race (50 at Superbrawl III) Hiro Matsuda (56 at Superbrawl III) The average age of an NFL player has hovered in the mid-late 20s for the past thirty years, which means that anyone playing in that game who avoided drug overdoses or murder-suicides haven't hit the point there they have the health problems that killed Vader/Matsuda/Race in their 60s or 70s. I feel like the wrestling industry of the late 20th/early 21th century is enough of a charnel house of tragedy that it's weird to lump "heavy smoker dying of lung cancer at 76" into the pile.
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Race and Matsuda were in manager roles as SB III, so while they might be taking an occasional bump, it wasn't like they were going as physical as Sting or The Great Muta.
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Wrestlemania 6 is at over 50% Wrestlers/managers. I don’t know if I have the stomach to look at those first few survivor series when there were 50-60 people on the card.
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Davros1 posted:Race and Matsuda were in manager roles as SB III, so while they might be taking an occasional bump, it wasn't like they were going as physical as Sting or The Great Muta.
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The American Dream posted:Wrestlemania 6 is at over 50% Wrestlers/managers. SS 87 isn't too bad.
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I thought Devil Horns Rey was the best of his incarnations, honestly. He wasn't completely shot yet so he still did a variety of moves and had a plethora good matches. Managed to avoid a lot of the usual Vince Russo racism, amazingly. UNless he was also in that tequila bottle on a pole match and I wiped it from my memory in shame.
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Has there ever been a good _____ on a pole match? I'm sure there must have been, but I mainly associate that whole concept with terrible Vince Russo joke matches.
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Bret Hart and Davey Boy vs Vader and the Patriot was pretty good
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~like this if you're a strong independent nWo member who don't need no WCW~
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coconono posted:I thought Devil Horns Rey was the best of his incarnations, honestly. He wasn't completely shot yet so he still did a variety of moves and had a plethora good matches. Managed to avoid a lot of the usual Vince Russo racism, amazingly. UNless he was also in that tequila bottle on a pole match and I wiped it from my memory in shame. He got remarkably good again after he lost his huge wwe weight
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rujasu posted:Has there ever been a good _____ on a pole match? I'm sure there must have been, but I mainly associate that whole concept with terrible Vince Russo joke matches. i dunno, this 'pawn stars guy lookalike' vs 'fat luigi' match looks pretty solid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtY-ueby6Zk
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DeathChicken posted:Bret Hart and Davey Boy vs Vader and the Patriot was pretty good Positive there's been some good flag matches, which sorta originated the concept
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It’s sad that flag matches, the backbone of xenophobia in pro wrestling, have been lumped together with pole matches.
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I remember seeing some tape of Ted DiBiase having good coal miners gloves on a pole matches for Mid South but they were pretty short and sweet TV sprints.
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Judy Bagwell on a forklift tho
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCDTwGUo_5A
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Two things: One, that angle/feud was so fun, just wish it'd ended in Wargames somehow Two, Flair for the Gold's opening credits rule and simultaneously, are very much a product of it's time
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Two things: Yeah, they could have found some other people for Wargames. Too bad the Clash rating with their tag match had disappointing ratings, since the obvious step was to break up the Blondes, one of the best acts in wrestling at the time.
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Listening to the latest Talk is Jericho (ever since someone told me the intro song is TAAACOS JERICHO BABY TAAAACOS JERICHO and it was an ad for Chris Jericho's new Mexican restaurant, that's all I can hear), David Arquette was on and talking about his time with WCW. Arquette says he was looking at a 'list of all the dumbest poo poo WCW has ever done' and grumbling that he was #1 on the list, but then he saw "Judy Bagwell on a pole" match and thought "Oh that's insane I have to watch this," started watching it, and didn't realise he had completely blocked out that he was in that fuckin match WCW got so bad, people have literally created psychological blocks to forget they were ever part of it. edit: it starts around 38:25 on the podcast pathetic little tramp fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Aug 9, 2019 |
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pathetic little tramp posted:'list of all the dumbest poo poo WCW has ever done'  Number three: Judy Bagwell on a pole Number four: Black Scorpion Number five: Judy Bagwell on a forklift
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Doc M posted:I immediately pictured the list looking like this but even longer: that's a good picture illustrating the lighting difference in WCW, which I liked better. It looked more sports-like with that lighting.
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Randaconda posted:that's a good picture illustrating the lighting difference in WCW, which I liked better. It looked more sports-like with that lighting. Yeah, but they’d also put a bunch of advertisements on the mat and I always found that distracting.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Yeah, but they’d also put a bunch of advertisements on the mat and I always found that distracting. also sports-like!
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I'll slap you silly.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Yeah, but they’d also put a bunch of advertisements on the mat and I always found that distracting. Just for certain PPVs.
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MassRafTer posted:Just for certain PPVs.  I'm still very cross about it.
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1800 collect 4 life
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Bring back the blimps, goddammit. Why did that ever stop?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Bring back the blimps, goddammit. Why did that ever stop? Bring back the monster trucks
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Randaconda posted:that's a good picture illustrating the lighting difference in WCW, which I liked better. It looked more sports-like with that lighting. I always loved the look and feel of NWA shows from the 80s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBzVubip_CA Davros1 fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Aug 9, 2019 |
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