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New company has test coverage under 50% lol fml
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Aug 7, 2019 19:36
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No, random cold-calling recruiter from a placement agency, I will not tell you my expected salary before you even start showing my resume to your clients Lol at the very idea of recruitment agencies in tyool 2019
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Aug 7, 2019 20:45
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there are lots of jobs out there that only hire through recruiter agencies, which are all lovely employers
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Aug 7, 2019 21:14
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elite_garbage_man posted:New company has test coverage under 50% lol fml Must be nice. My new company had under that.
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Aug 7, 2019 21:25
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"I don't see java on your resume" It's the fifth word, after my name and prospective title, you loving bonehead
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Aug 7, 2019 22:17
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The Clowner posted:No, random cold-calling recruiter from a placement agency, I will not tell you my expected salary before you even start showing my resume to your clients I love telling these guys what my expected total comp is. oh, you want that in an hourly figure? no problem. somehow I never hear back
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Aug 8, 2019 04:13
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PokeJoe posted:there are lots of jobs out there that only hire through recruiter agencies, which are all lovely employers is there some other kind of employer
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Aug 8, 2019 04:27
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just finished up this process: -recruiter phone screen -engineer phone screen -in-person coding exercise -take-home coding exercise -video chat review of take-home coding exercise -in-person whiteboard exercise -interviews with 4 team members "pass, but we think you'd be a fit for another position" so at this point I'm thinking "oh they already know everything that could possibly matter about me, no way they'd waste both of our time bringing me in for another position unless it was a sure thing" -interview with a manager -interviews with 4 different team members "that's another pass, sorry we hope you learned something and don't consider this process a waste of your time"
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Aug 8, 2019 15:39
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Ferr posted:just finished up this process: This is why I tell people not to take time off for interviews
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Aug 8, 2019 15:41
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Ferr posted:just finished up this process: ugh. these assholes think way too much of themselves. this is way too many steps and the proper response to this kind of nonsense is to tell them to get hosed.
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Aug 8, 2019 15:46
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do you typically get told how many stages there are up front or is it usually drip-fed such that you only know about the next stage? ive never been through more than 2 stages of interview + an online test so this is kinda foreign to me
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Aug 8, 2019 15:48
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if you ask, and they don't want to tell you, then assume the answer is "way too loving long"
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Aug 8, 2019 15:57
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yeah i always ask what the next step is when i interview but maybe i should start being more specific and ask what’s the path to getting a job offer, or whatever
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Aug 8, 2019 15:59
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the best places will tell you up front when you're first talking to the recruiter. "Phone interview w/ the director and then about 2 hours in person with the team" was what I went through in this last cycle.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:00
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jesus WEP posted:do you typically get told how many stages there are up front or is it usually drip-fed such that you only know about the next stage? I once flew across the country for a whiteboarding session, they loved it, and as they drove me to the airport, they let me know that they will be in touch for the 'next steps'. I'm thinking okay next step is let's talk hiring. Next step was a takehome test lololol.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:01
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Not a Children posted:This is why I tell people not to take time off for interviews Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Aug 8, 2019 |
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Aug 8, 2019 16:09
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The Management posted:you will feel that it’s the end of the road before you hang up the phone. But I always feel this way, even when I'm not on the phone?
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Aug 8, 2019 16:45
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interviewing sucks, it feels super random, half the people on both sides don't give a gently caress and have messed up incentives, and there's a difficult balance to strike between effort per application and number of applications.
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Aug 8, 2019 17:05
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jesus WEP posted:do you typically get told how many stages there are up front or is it usually drip-fed such that you only know about the next stage? “can you tell me what your interview process is like?”
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Aug 8, 2019 17:16
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elite_garbage_man posted:New company has test coverage under 50% lol fml Our main product has (according to SonarQube): - 611,000 LOC - 36,000 Warnings - 11,000 duplicated LOC - 15 Unit tests - 0.0% test coverage My teams products has: - 21,000 LOC - 0 Warnings - 18 duplicated LOC - 170 Unit tests - 82% unit test coverage - 2 integration harnesses - Another 50 tests with the integration tests. The main product netted us a $300,000,000 buyout. Remember kids: Good quality code doesn't sell! 
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Aug 8, 2019 17:19
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The Management posted:“can you tell me what your interview process is like?” I tried this once but the reviewer just looked at me like the Nazis at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark?
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Aug 8, 2019 17:23
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Schadenboner posted:I tried this once but the reviewer just looked at me like the Nazis at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark? Oh good, you dodged a bullet.
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Aug 8, 2019 17:36
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Gazpacho posted:how else can you do one? On site mean Come in, say you need to take a call, then leave
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Aug 8, 2019 17:41
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I've done that before with things other than interviews, the boss noticed
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Aug 8, 2019 17:53
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ratbert90 posted:Our main product has (according to SonarQube): this is the sort of thing i felt obligated to send an explanatory e-mail about yesterday, after a coding screen with a company large enough to pretend that such stupidity doesn't exist (and if it does, it must be the candidate's fault) Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Aug 8, 2019 |
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Aug 8, 2019 18:33
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code coverage is a meaningless measurement like klocs
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Aug 8, 2019 20:15
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chode coverage
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Aug 8, 2019 20:18
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The Management posted:code coverage is a meaningless measurement like klocs 0% probably just means no tests whatsoever though which maybe is bad
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Aug 8, 2019 20:23
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No Mods No Masters posted:Come in, say you need to take a call, then leave doctors appt
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Aug 8, 2019 21:23
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pathetic little tramp posted:Bingo! doing it remote for a few weeks until the move is finished could work. it sounds like you'd be a one person team for the react stuff anyway. however if it's a small company I would be very surprised if their payroll were competent enough to correctly handle whatever taxes etc are applicable to your current area
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Aug 8, 2019 21:26
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Progressive JPEG posted:doctors appt and for your actual doctor's appt if you're going back into the office be sure to dress up. suit & tie
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Aug 9, 2019 00:01
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bitchtard posted:“Friday isn’t soon enough, they want to interview you sooner!!” follow up turns out they were actually excited about meeting me. the first non useless recruiter I’ve met gave me a guide on everyone who’d be in the interview, their LinkedIn, and what tech they would ask about. interview went great and I’m super excited to get into what they are doing. I had a call 10 minutes after the interview saying they are going to make me an offer tomorrow. super glad about having something not be lovely for once and be resolved within a week. there’s no way I would’ve been able to tolerate this bullshit dick against a grinding wheel process without this thread.
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Aug 9, 2019 00:09
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meeting a rare non poo poo recruiter is such a joy, 95% of them add no value.
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Aug 9, 2019 00:18
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jesus WEP posted:do you typically get told how many stages there are up front or is it usually drip-fed such that you only know about the next stage? a take home exercise is a red flag that i will never do again
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Aug 9, 2019 01:51
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wtf did someone tell you to do anyway, write a c++ compiler?
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Aug 9, 2019 03:29
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:a take home exercise is a red flag that i will never do again we once interviewed a guy who was a real talker. I tried and tried to get him to write some code down but he just kept talking. I gave the next interviewer a heads up and said try to get him to code asap because I couldn't at all, and he had the same problem. Thing is he was saying the correct things and he didn't sound full of poo poo, just didn't write any code. So we gave him a take home and he did pretty well on it so we hired him and he does a pretty good job. They're not always bad. They can definitely be a waste of time but I would have said no on him if it weren't for the take home
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Aug 9, 2019 03:45
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Don’t grub for money any time an employer requests a take home exercise, but definitely get a commitment that they will send you detailed feedback if your solution isn’t accepted
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Aug 9, 2019 04:02
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JawnV6 posted:and for your actual doctor's appt if you're going back into the office be sure to dress up. suit & tie no one would believe you went to a computer related interview either i think if I showed up to work randomly in suit and tie my boss would ask who died
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Aug 9, 2019 04:08
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ugh, nonstop talkers are the worst. you have to learn how to be rude and interrupt them and say that it’s time to write some code. otherwise they will talk forever and it hurts them because you can’t evaluate them. take home exams can be instructive to the taker. if they give you something that should take an hour and it would really take 10 hours, you know they are unrealistic and you can  immediately. if it’s a pointless exercise that doesn’t test any real skill other that you being able to grind out some code, they are bad at interviewing. if it’s ridiculously easy then either they don’t understand what your level is or they are morons.a good take home problem should be easy to code but prove you have enough language and critical thinking skills to solve it in a good way. just like any other interview question.
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Aug 9, 2019 04:52
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Gazpacho posted:Don’t grub for money any time an employer requests a take home exercise, but definitely get a commitment that they will send you detailed feedback if your solution isn’t accepted The second developer interview evaluates your skills via a take-home project. You will find the project requirements in this email. Please treat this project as if you are delivering it to a client. The requirements for the test project are: Write an application to Review Restaurants User must be able to create an account and log in. Implement 3 roles with different permission levels * Regular User: Can rate and leave a comment for a restaurant * Owner: Can create restaurants and reply comments about owned restaurants * Admin: Can edit/delete all users, restaurants, comments, and reviews Reviews should have: * A 5 star based rate * Date of the visit * Comment When a Regular User logs in he will see a Restaurant List ordered by Rate Average When an Owner logs in he will see a Restaurant List only the ones owned by him, and the reviews pending to reply Owners can reply the review once Restaurants detailed view should have: * The overall average rating * The highest rated review * The lowest rated review * Last reviews with rate, comment, and reply Restaurant List can be filtered by Rating REST API. Make it possible to perform all user actions via the API, including authentication In any case, you should be able to explain how a REST API works and demonstrate that by creating functional tests that use the REST Layer directly. Please be prepared to use REST clients like Postman, cURL, etc. for this purpose. If it’s a web application, it must be a single-page application. All actions need to be done client-side using AJAX, refreshing the page is not acceptable. Functional UI/UX design is needed. You are not required to create a unique design, however, do follow best practices to make the project as functional as possible. Bonus: unit and e2e tests. This project will be used to evaluate your skills and should be fully functional without any obvious missing pieces. We will evaluate the project as if you were delivering it to a customer.
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