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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

isn’t Texas currently somewhat hosed by their own “independent” grid now being a deregulated mess with higher costs woefully inadequate to handle the states’s actual electric needs and since they cut ties to other grids they can’t even offset it by buying power off state?

I guess that’s pretty Texas after all.

Texas has its own power grid because in 1935 Texas said “gently caress President Wheels” and “feds can’t do poo poo if what happens in Texas stays in Texas”.

Forty years later, one company intentionally sent power to Texas to Oklahoma. This company, CSW, wanted to bring themselves under federal law, and if they had to drag the rest of Texas with them, kicking and screaming, so be it.

This signalled the start of what has been called “The Second Battle of the Alamo”.

Texas wriggled out of it and kept their independence. I would say that that it’s unfortunate that Texas won the legal battle, but Texas really just succeeded in cutting off their nose to spite their face.

quote:

Prior to the creation of the PUC during the 1970s, state and federal regulation of the state’s utilities was almost non- existent. The transmission grid that would be overseen by ERCOT was designed to serve specific communities, with limited interconnections for reliability purposes. The state’s major utility monopolies vigorously protected their own territories and resisted federal oversight. Consider, for example, the famous story of the “Midnight Connection” in which an unnamed technician from the Central and Southwest Corp. secretly opened a substation connection between Vernon, Texas and Altus, Oklahoma. Through this unprecedented action, CSW sought to preserve its status as an interstate electric power holding company, which would allow it to come under integration provisions of the Public Utilities Holding Company Act that were legally advantageous to the company.

However, the “Midnight Connection presumably placed the entire state of Texas and all its utilities under federal jurisdiction,” wrote U.S. 7th Circuit Appeals Court Judge Richard Cudahy in a colorful academic journal article about the May 4, 1976 event. “While such a clandestine surge of power may seem insignificant, under the controlling Supreme Court cases the simple transmission of power over interstate lines establishes federal jurisdiction. These utilities had arguably suffered the irrevocable taint of interstate power.”

Cudahy, who at the time was providing legal representation for CSW, said the utility apprised “Texas utilities of the breach in their battlements” shortly after it established its connection to Oklahoma. The “drastic, totally unprecedented” response from two of the state’s largest utilities was to cut their connections from other major utilities, he said. This had the effect of delinking the utilities from the Oklahoma grid — but also potentially putting the entire ERCOT system at risk. The Midnight Connection led to years of legal wrangling and, by an indirect route, to the important 1980 agreement establishing direct-current interconnections between the Texas grid and Oklahoma. Because the power flowing across these DC ties can be controlled, ERCOT has been permitted to maintain its limited connections to areas outside the state while at the same time steering clear of the federal jurisdiction that typically accompanies interstate commerce.

http://tcaptx.com/downloads/THE-STORY-OF-ERCOT.pdf

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Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Dumb Lowtax posted:

Man, Grimes has seen some real poo poo hasn't she

Grimes: I'm seeing double! Four Elon's?!

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

Shifty Pony posted:

I'm at around $4.20

nice

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
Tesla does give you loaners, just not insurance and registration on them:

https://translate.google.com/transl...kret%2F24676839

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


evobatman posted:

Tesla does give you loaners, just not insurance and registration on them:

https://translate.google.com/transl...kret%2F24676839

lmao watch them sell that loaner as new

A Man With A Plan
Mar 29, 2010
Fallen Rib

evobatman posted:

Tesla does give you loaners, just not insurance and registration on them:

https://translate.google.com/transl...kret%2F24676839

Among my social group, 2 of the 3 tesla owners have had month+ service delays. The first guy, a few months ago got a Model X for the period. The other more recently got a base model Ford Fusion lol

Veni Vidi Ameche!
Nov 2, 2017

by Fluffdaddy
Parking garages full of unsellable Teslas, but no loaners available. Here, have a commuter bike and a dented helmet.

Vomik
Jul 29, 2003

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan

Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:

Parking garages full of unsellable Teslas, but no loaners available. Here, have a commuter bike and a dented helmet.

they’ve suffered enough why give them a dirt lot time bomb?!

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Dented helmets and Tesla ownership go hand in hand.

Hurt Whitey Maybe
Jun 26, 2008

I mean maybe not. Or maybe. Definitely don't kill anyone.
imagine how bad the outrage would be if like Honda sold lovely civics that didn’t work or meet the specs they said they would on delivery and made people wait months for repair of their new cars

like the media could afford to go in on musk for this one

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


I mean ford sold 1.5 million cars with faulty transmissions and now have multi-month wait times for warranty repair parts which don't actually fix the problem (but which ford hopes will put the next occurrence outside of the warranty period)

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Delivery day!

Didn’t go as expected :( I arrived 7 minutes early to my appointment and no one arrived until 4 after... not a big deal except that the car wasn’t there. Even after confirming multiple times Friday because I am a super anxious person who overplans everything lol. Wasted a couple hours today and I’m just super sad because I was so excited. Tesla offered me $150 in store credit. I assume this is very uncommon but I’m just venting because I’m super depressed today. Hopefully I will get it Tuesday.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/jrhennessy/status/1162953320014569472

A Man With A Plan
Mar 29, 2010
Fallen Rib

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Delivery day!

... I assume this is very uncommon but I’m just venting because I’m super depressed today. Hopefully I will get it Tuesday.

hahahahahaha

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

The heck do you spend Tesla store credit on. Elon shirts and LOVE THE CAR mugs?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
5% of an FSD license that poofs out of existence as soon as your car breaks or leaves your possession.

Scarodactyl
Oct 22, 2015


I'm not 100% sure, but I think this song is basically a melodic curse on Elon and other rich ilk determined to die on mars?
https://scottstutzman.bandcamp.com/track/may-you-die
Can't be sure but it would definitely mesh well with Stutzman's apparent political ideology.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Platystemon posted:

Texas has its own power grid because in 1935 Texas said “gently caress President Wheels” and “feds can’t do poo poo if what happens in Texas stays in Texas”.

Forty years later, one company intentionally sent power to Texas to Oklahoma. This company, CSW, wanted to bring themselves under federal law, and if they had to drag the rest of Texas with them, kicking and screaming, so be it.

This signalled the start of what has been called “The Second Battle of the Alamo”.

Texas wriggled out of it and kept their independence. I would say that that it’s unfortunate that Texas won the legal battle, but Texas really just succeeded in cutting off their nose to spite their face.


http://tcaptx.com/downloads/THE-STORY-OF-ERCOT.pdf

I might be in a state that is as chuddy if not chuddier than Texas but by god they figured out how to provide utilities like a century ago and even the bald-rear end old money governor loves my city's big beautiful socialist electric company

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


A Couple of Build Issues on New Delivery. Please Advise.

I've been meaning to post this.

Picked up my Model 3 recently and the delivery process was great. I looked over the vehicle briefly at the shop and it looked fine. Looked at the main places, curb rash, any paint chips, paint damage, etc.

I got home and looked at it more carefully and realized there were a couple of flaws. Trying to figure out if these are "within spec" or if you guys would take it in.

The rear doors are not evenly flush. One side is high, the other is low. I read about this among Model 3 owners.

Scratches on the shifter

These unstiched parts on my rear doors. Again, I can't tell if this is normal if its a bad stitching job.

Hope you guys can help, bummed that a 50K+ car would have these small issues.
https://imgur.com/Obh1jK7
https://imgur.com/RRoUmvm
https://imgur.com/UDZFCXX
https://imgur.com/KV1wmxy
https://imgur.com/fewHhQt
https://imgur.com/mrx53mY
https://imgur.com/wrK4vQP
https://imgur.com/TpdUGiU
https://imgur.com/seHSJPX

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

"Can't tell if this is normal": A normal thing for car owners to ask other car owners in regard to the new car they purchased.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Excellent trim work. Lmao, what a farce. Maybe he'll get a $150 credit for the elon musk store.

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

baka kaba posted:

The heck do you spend Tesla store credit on. Elon shirts and LOVE THE CAR mugs?

This of course

https://shop.spacex.com/featured-products/nuke-mars-t-shirt.html

Lote
Aug 5, 2001

Place your bets

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Delivery day!

Didn’t go as expected :( I arrived 7 minutes early to my appointment and no one arrived until 4 after... not a big deal except that the car wasn’t there. Even after confirming multiple times Friday because I am a super anxious person who overplans everything lol. Wasted a couple hours today and I’m just super sad because I was so excited. Tesla offered me $150 in store credit. I assume this is very uncommon but I’m just venting because I’m super depressed today. Hopefully I will get it Tuesday.

“Not a big deal except the car wasn’t there”

:lol:

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

lol having to inspect your car and question whether the flaws in fit/finish are severe enough to merit a return instead of just knowing your chosen manufacturer has a robust QC regime that prevents poo poo like mismatched doors and paint bubbles from making it to the dealer lot.

like do they exhibit the same concern about sushi? "Hmm, my shrimp roll might have liver fluke, good thing I have a microscope in my ~~eVeRyDaY CaRrY bAg~~ and can check to see whether there's enough parasites in the sample to merit concern about a statistically significant chance of infection"

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


For those who might be unaware, the experience of Supercharging is actually pretty different than a traditional gas station.

You park the car, and plug it in. When you're done, you unplug it and leave. That's it. You don't even have to manually open and close the charging door.

The Supercharger already knows the car, knows your account and and knows your linked payment instrument. There's no swiping a credit card and entering your ZIP code/PIN, or going inside the station to stand in line to pay cash.

There's no annoying question about your gas discount card. There's no selecting which grade of fuel to put in. There's no annoying advertising playing on the gas pump screen. In fact there's no pump controls, keypad or screen, because none is needed.

There's no smell, no fuel spills, no drops of engine oil or other random fluids on the ground next to the pumps. There's no little lever thing you have to click down to keep the gas flowing without squeezing the handle.

When you're done, there's no button to press to print a paper receipt -- that just goes directly into your Tesla.com account.

After trying a Supercharger for the first time, you realize just how bad the user experience of a gas station is. The only bright spot (and admittedly it is a big one) is that the actual act of filling up with gasoline doesn't take more than a few minutes.

But everything surrounding the act of putting fuel into your car at a gas station is dumb, annoying, and archaic.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


I felt ill copy/pasting that post from the sheer amount of :spergin:

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

how the hell can someone not notice THAT

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

no risks except the part where you're exceeding safe current and heat levels for your daisychained vapist batteries which can make the car explode violently and burn unquenchably while you are trapped inside because the door latches were operated with power from the now-burning battery

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

FAUXTON posted:

no risks except the part where you're exceeding safe current and heat levels for your daisychained vapist batteries which can make the car explode violently and burn unquenchably while you are trapped inside because the door latches were operated with power from the now-burning battery

A small price to pay as an early adopter of climate-saving technology from a man whose other company launches loving rockets into space, a thing it is hard to imagine topping in terms of CO2 production.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

I felt ill copy/pasting that post from the sheer amount of :spergin:

No, these are great. Keep going.

Gas station: A few minutes out the door and depending on MPG 400-700 range.

But ewww...stinky gas fumes and levers and buttons and receipts.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


i a found a tesla solar relaunch thread and now i want to die

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1163018466871263234?s=20

[–]vinodjetley[S] 4 points 3 hours ago
1 Gigawatt per square kilometer of solar energy reaches Earth’s surface.


[–]strontal 4 points an hour ago
On the ground you can capture a maximum of 1kw of solar energy per square meter of panels.

Over a 24 hour day there is a best case of being able to obtain 6.5kWh of energy per square meter.

If the panel is optimally oriented toward the sun If the panel is optimally angled toward the sun If the panel optimally sited If there is optimal weather If there is optimal environmentals

Currently good quality PV panels are about 20% efficient. Meaning if all the above applies in the best case of all environments you can obtain 1.3kWh of energy per day per square meter.

[–]arizonadeux thermodynamics says EVs are better [score hidden] 51 minutes ago
Source?

[–]croninsiglos [score hidden] 22 minutes ago*
Nature. (not the journal but actual nature) See "solar hours". Where I live we only get 4 solar hours per day.

Efficiency is about right too for residential solar, source: every PV manufacturer.

Thus, where I live max I can get per sq meter is 0.8 kWh per day. (4 * 0.2)

[–]vinodjetley[S] [score hidden] 3 minutes ago
Elon Musk on twitter. Please read the original post and then ask source, not before you read it.

Not a Children
Oct 9, 2012

Don't need a holster if you never stop shooting.

The big missing part here that ol Musky seems to ignore (and becomes apparent if you spend more than 30 seconds thinking about it) is that, even ignoring the capital costs of building any such system for generation and transmission, we have no scalable method of offsetting that production to when we're not generating power

You can't just make bandoleers of Li-ion batteries for distribution scale power

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Not a Children posted:


You can't just make bandoleers of Li-ion batteries for distribution scale power

You say that but.... what is Musk can????

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

My car may have mismatched panels but at least I didn't have to risk getting gasoline on my shoes like you disgusting PROLES!

NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice
"I sold car 4 months ago & the rear end in a top hat changed the password but still hasn't updated the billing information on Tesla.com"

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


P100D Brake Noise Help

video here

I have been told by my local Service Center that this brake noise on my Model S is "normal" because of the 21" arachnid wheels I have on it. This has been going on for several thousand miles, with many attempts made to resolve it based on other posts I've read, including driving with regen on low, burnishing the pads, etc.

This just doesn't seem right to me since I've driven several other Model S vehicles (including loaner vehicles unfortunately) and none of them have this issue. If it is related to the 21" wheels, would it help to convert to 19's?

It's incredibly embarrassing to drive for a vehicle that I otherwise love so much!

Thanks for any help/advice!

ryde
Sep 9, 2011

God I love young girls
I’m starting to think this Musk guy may not know what he’s talking about

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

i a found a tesla solar relaunch thread and now i want to die

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1163018466871263234?s=20

[–]vinodjetley[S] 4 points 3 hours ago
1 Gigawatt per square kilometer of solar energy reaches Earth’s surface.


[–]strontal 4 points an hour ago
On the ground you can capture a maximum of 1kw of solar energy per square meter of panels.

Over a 24 hour day there is a best case of being able to obtain 6.5kWh of energy per square meter.

If the panel is optimally oriented toward the sun If the panel is optimally angled toward the sun If the panel optimally sited If there is optimal weather If there is optimal environmentals

Currently good quality PV panels are about 20% efficient. Meaning if all the above applies in the best case of all environments you can obtain 1.3kWh of energy per day per square meter.

[–]arizonadeux thermodynamics says EVs are better [score hidden] 51 minutes ago
Source?

[–]croninsiglos [score hidden] 22 minutes ago*
Nature. (not the journal but actual nature) See "solar hours". Where I live we only get 4 solar hours per day.

Efficiency is about right too for residential solar, source: every PV manufacturer.

Thus, where I live max I can get per sq meter is 0.8 kWh per day. (4 * 0.2)

[–]vinodjetley[S] [score hidden] 3 minutes ago
Elon Musk on twitter. Please read the original post and then ask source, not before you read it.


lol this man claims to have a physics degree

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



NoWake posted:

"I sold car 4 months ago & the rear end in a top hat changed the password but still hasn't updated the billing information on Tesla.com"

Please tell me this is real.

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orange sky
May 7, 2007

So, this video very shortly shits on Elon Musk but I'll take any excuses to let you guys know about this channel, I got lost in this dude's videos until I watched pretty much all of them.

The theme of the video is really good, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Z4Jd0AtfI&t=1s

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