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If they wanted to really to sell the cynicism of corporations doing "social" stuff in 2019, they should have had Homelander parade around with a rainbow flag cape for a month instead of going to PrayAwayTheGay-Con.
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Aug 23, 2019 16:16
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GigaPeon posted:If they wanted to really to sell the cynicism of corporations doing "social" stuff in 2019, they should have had Homelander parade around with a rainbow flag cape for a month instead of going to PrayAwayTheGay-Con. true capitalism-man would do both
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Aug 23, 2019 16:17
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GigaPeon posted:If they wanted to really to sell the cynicism of corporations doing "social" stuff in 2019, they should have had Homelander parade around with a rainbow flag cape for a month instead of going to PrayAwayTheGay-Con. Yeah, that's one of the things where the story really shows its age. Big public-facing corporations being a bulwark of social conservatism is a very pre-Obama sort of thing. On the other hand, this is a society where ubermenschen playing police have largely supplanted sport/music/movie stars as America's icons and role models. So it probably makes some sense that it would skew more conservative.
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Aug 23, 2019 16:39
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GigaPeon posted:If they wanted to really to sell the cynicism of corporations doing "social" stuff in 2019, they should have had Homelander parade around with a rainbow flag cape for a month instead of going to PrayAwayTheGay-Con. I guess you never visited the US bible belt? Pretty hilarious driving along the highway see things like mega-church ads and anti-abortion billboards.
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Aug 23, 2019 16:52
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GigaPeon posted:If they wanted to really to sell the cynicism of corporations doing "social" stuff in 2019, they should have had Homelander parade around with a rainbow flag cape for a month instead of going to PrayAwayTheGay-Con. The people who have a hard-on for the military aren't typically the LGBTQ supporting types.
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Aug 23, 2019 17:22
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Raytheon and Boeing and Northrup-Grumman are falling all over themselves to demonstrate that they support Pride and women in STEM. Like any other big company--like Disney, specifically--Vought would create different products to serve each audience and rely on most people not to connect the dots in any meaningful way. It's not like the major news networks are going to point it out. VVV Then there's Haim Sabam, who believes "Palestinian people" is an oxymoron. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Aug 23, 2019 |
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Aug 23, 2019 17:33
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GigaPeon posted:If they wanted to really to sell the cynicism of corporations doing "social" stuff in 2019, they should have had Homelander parade around with a rainbow flag cape for a month instead of going to PrayAwayTheGay-Con. The believe festival was especially dated but it’s also worth remembering that Isaac “all black people look the same” Perlmutter was running Marvel studios as recently as 2015. There are plenty of reactionaries still running Hollywood and corporate America.
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Aug 23, 2019 17:37
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I don't think The Deep has appeared in any way remorseful over pressuring Starlight into sex at any point. He only seems sad about his loss of status. They could just as easily move on from his character entirely and have him essentially vanish from the show except to appear in the odd lobster killing joke scene. Did the event with him making Starlight give him a hummer happen in the comics?
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Aug 23, 2019 18:44
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etalian posted:I guess you never visited the US bible belt? But also don't see Disney doing those things. Didn't Chris Pratt get momentarily Cancelled just for going to a church that was less than progressive? Starks posted:The believe festival was especially dated but it’s also worth remembering that Isaac “all black people look the same” Perlmutter was running Marvel studios as recently as 2015. There are plenty of reactionaries still running Hollywood and corporate America. That would be a great place to show the hypocrisy, wouldn't? Have the heroes preach about inclusivity to the public, but be a bunch of jerks behind closed doors?
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Aug 23, 2019 18:54
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More like they directly fund anti-lgbtq legislation and possibly “pray away the gay poo poo” gently caress church and anyone religious in general though. It’s ok to hate people who do nothing but spread hate themselves.
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Aug 23, 2019 19:01
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Mat Cauthon posted:Homelander Jr as the only being able to take down his father makes too much sense for them not to do, but I fully expect Homelander to prevail in that situation, should it ever occur, and then really be full on crazy bonkers. YES.
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Aug 23, 2019 19:02
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Can I just say I appreciate that the show runs way faster than I thought it might. I.e. Hugie stops seeing ghostguilt pretty quickly.Bust Rodd posted:Whether or not you read it that way, the gill rape scene is 100% there so the Deep can finally see how it feels to be powerless, and I felt like that scene is meant to catalyze The Deep into some kind of change. That scene's there to show how he doesn't have Vought's clout to protect him and prop him up anymore. But totally agree with the power dynamics thing being great for the show. PostNouveau posted:The doctor pointedly saying Homelander should have been raised with a parent makes me think that Becca is in cahoots with Vought and they planned for the kid to be a "debugged" replacement for Homelander.
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Aug 23, 2019 19:04
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Zwabu posted:I don't think The Deep has appeared in any way remorseful over pressuring Starlight into sex at any point. Yes, but it was Homelander.
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Aug 23, 2019 19:05
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Harton posted:More like they directly fund anti-lgbtq legislation and possibly “pray away the gay poo poo” 
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Aug 23, 2019 19:27
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Jedit posted:Yes, but it was Homelander. It was Homelander but also 2 others IIRC Ennis really pushes things for shock value
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Aug 23, 2019 19:35
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FilthyImp posted:Can I just say I appreciate that the show runs way faster than I thought it might. I.e. Hugie stops seeing ghostguilt pretty quickly.
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Aug 23, 2019 19:37
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Don’t doxx me.
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Aug 23, 2019 20:07
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Vought seems willing to play as many markets as needed - while Homelander and Starlight appeal to the religious right, The Deep greenwashes Vought for granola liberals.
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Aug 23, 2019 21:09
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I can't recall if The Deep was already doing that kind of thing. It struck me that if he were smarter, he'd have gone to Stilwell and insisted on leading a greenwashing campaign with some genuine improvements, instead of stealing a van and a dolphin.
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Aug 23, 2019 21:33
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Lt. Danger posted:Vought seems willing to play as many markets as needed - while Homelander and Starlight appeal to the religious right, The Deep greenwashes Vought for granola liberals. Don't granola liberals hate Seaworld?
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Aug 23, 2019 23:05
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Don't forget, Deep is kind of an idiot. Remember he was pitching his new ideas on how to rescue the dolphins from that horrible place and had to be reminded that oh yea, he's the celebrity spokesman for that place.
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Aug 24, 2019 01:21
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Don't forget, Deep is kind of an idiot. Remember he was pitching his new ideas on how to rescue the dolphins from that horrible place and had to be reminded that oh yea, he's the celebrity spokesman for that place. Yeah, he's an idiot and I think he only even cared about the dolphins at the sea park because he had a personal friend there. Kinda like when he talked to that one lobster and immediately tried to rescue it instead of coming back later and taking all of them or something. It's why he drives a Hummer, because he doesn't care about the environment in general, just the conditions of his pals.
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Aug 24, 2019 11:05
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The deep is a glorified mascot for SeaWorld, its part of his hypocrisy, he can emphasise with animals but was happy to perform for these water parks and even when he has a change of heart he goes to Stillwell, she puts him down immediately and he doesn't fight back about it. Breaking the dolphin out at night was just him trying to have his cake and eat it. Be the "environment guy" and still keep his SeaWorld contract.
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Aug 24, 2019 12:25
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McSpanky posted:Yeah, he's an idiot and I think he only even cared about the dolphins at the sea park because he had a personal friend there. Kinda like when he talked to that one lobster and immediately tried to rescue it instead of coming back later and taking all of them or something. It's why he drives a Hummer, because he doesn't care about the environment in general, just the conditions of his pals. lmao gently caress how is this the first mention of the Hummer
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Aug 24, 2019 13:27
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That’s actually a pretty deep cut of a joke, drat.
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Aug 24, 2019 13:42
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Starks posted:The believe festival was especially dated but it’s also worth remembering that Isaac “all black people look the same” Perlmutter was running Marvel studios as recently as 2015. There are plenty of reactionaries still running Hollywood and corporate America. Remember, as far as the public know, every supe is literally blessed by god and a holy person. It's not just a matter of supes being in religion - the supes are the religion. It's pretty much the "Jesus vs Jeezus" meme. 
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Aug 24, 2019 14:03
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The believe festival isn’t “dated” that’s what half of Pennsylvania looks like all Spring & Summer long! Church festivals are one of the absolute best ways to get poor people to give you money and get their kids hooked on the scene.
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Aug 24, 2019 14:05
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylA6Tn8n6Co
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Aug 24, 2019 15:18
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That dolphin was a freak, it wanted The Deep to touch its blow hole. Bet the lobster was into some kinky poo poo too.
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Aug 24, 2019 21:23
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Black Noir just being this crazy silent green tea drinking piano aficionado is way better than the comic twist.
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Aug 24, 2019 22:19
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One of my coworkers thinks Black Noir is Butcher.
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Aug 24, 2019 22:24
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Bedshaped posted:Black Noir just being this crazy silent green tea drinking piano aficionado is way better than the comic twist. yea the best twist for a guy like him is no twist at all. Why is Black Noir like that? I dunno man he just is a weirdo, he fights crime good and has a cool brand and that's all we care about.
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Aug 24, 2019 22:27
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I mean his name literally means "Black Black"... he's already good leave him be.
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Aug 24, 2019 22:40
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sexpig by night posted:yea the best twist for a guy like him is no twist at all. Why is Black Noir like that? I dunno man he just is a weirdo, he fights crime good and has a cool brand and that's all we care about. Well, the whole point is that he really doesn't "fight crime good". None of them do, and it's not something that Vought care about. It's all about the brand. One of the better parts of BN in the comic is that he has a Noirjet kept aboard the Seven's flying base because the comic writers gave him a Noirjet and so people expect him to have one in real life. But he can't actually fly it, and every time they try to teach him how he crashes it before even getting out of the hangar. Whether or not they go with the twist, I hope they keep that.
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Aug 24, 2019 23:51
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What’s the piano cover at the end, can’t quite place it VVVV cheers 
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Aug 25, 2019 00:32
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beanieson posted:What’s the piano cover at the end, can’t quite place it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdoR7E7b4Mo
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Aug 25, 2019 00:39
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beanieson posted:What’s the piano cover at the end, can’t quite place it The cover they used is also listed directly in the video description.
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Aug 25, 2019 00:41
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Caros posted:The cover they used is also listed directly in the video description. Reading is for nerds
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Aug 25, 2019 00:47
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Jedit posted:Well, the whole point is that he really doesn't "fight crime good". None of them do, and it's not something that Vought care about. It's all about the brand. The Noirjet scene was also included as dumb teasing to BN's secret cause he just rips the plane apart to get out and walks away from the wreckage completely unphased after also killing his instructor. BN would've looked even better in the amazon series if he looked more like comic BN, by covering the actor in Vantablack coated spandex or something like that
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Aug 25, 2019 01:33
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I want a S2 episode just following Noir around exploring his rich inner life.
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