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Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Halp how do i send email

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szdbKz5CyhA

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
According to the youtube comments, The guy said somewhere else that it really is just a toy and he bought it from a normal toy shop. Maybe a sex toy company decided to branch out into weird real toys.

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Vanagoon posted:



Does it work? You should make a better youtube video than the one I posted.

I distinctly remember the battery door being an utter bastard to remove. Is yours like that?

It's not mine, but yeah, the battery door is terrible.


Insert coin and twist open :black101:
A screwdriver works better. It needs 4 AA batteries. Gonna scavenge some soon.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

buddhist nudist posted:

They're niche items now, even more so than they used to be. Once the Xbox and Playstation controllers just started using normal rear end USB plugs, the entire market for specific PC controllers dried up real fast. Steam conroller manages survive somehow.

For a while Microsoft did sell a special PC version of the Xbox 360 controller which was just the wired console controller but with a $10 higher MSRP. They still sell PC specific wireless ones that come with the little USB receiver nubbin.

Man it must have been easy for Microsoft to completely bulldoze the controller market on PC just by releasing a well built well designed controller that just worked when you plugged it in, literally the only loving one of its kind on a platform that seemed like it was from a parallel universe where madcatz won the war.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

Chairman Mao posted:

Man it must have been easy for Microsoft to completely bulldoze the controller market on PC just by releasing a well built well designed controller that just worked when you plugged it in, literally the only loving one of its kind on a platform that seemed like it was from a parallel universe where madcatz won the war.

Microsoft had a controller called "The Sidewinder" that IMO was very good, for the time. At the very least, I found it excellent for emulating NES and SNES games.
Not so much by the 2000s and you could emulate PS1 games easily.

The first one I had used a Gameport connection. Now, theres an obsolete technology for you.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Chairman Mao posted:

Man it must have been easy for Microsoft to completely bulldoze the controller market on PC just by releasing a well built well designed controller that just worked when you plugged it in, literally the only loving one of its kind on a platform that seemed like it was from a parallel universe where madcatz won the war.

It has found enthusiastic support in the U.S. military, where it has replaced several bespoke, artisanal controllers and saved hundreds of millions of dollars.*

*According to Raytheon, who decided “if you can’t beat ’em, join ’em” and got the contract for one controller project.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Microsoft has always made incredible input devices. I swore by their Explorer trackballs for years. It really sucked when they stopped making them.

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

buddhist nudist posted:

They're niche items now, even more so than they used to be. Once the Xbox and Playstation controllers just started using normal rear end USB plugs, the entire market for specific PC controllers dried up real fast. Steam conroller manages survive somehow.

For a while Microsoft did sell a special PC version of the Xbox 360 controller which was just the wired console controller but with a $10 higher MSRP. They still sell PC specific wireless ones that come with the little USB receiver nubbin.

I played quake 3 with a joystick/keyboard combo for a while, from what I remember the joystick was my left hand front/back straff and the arrow keys were turn left/right, shoot with space, jump with up/down or something weird like that.

It was completely incomprehensible to anyone that would sit down to play with my key mapping but worked for me somehow.

I think the most recent xbox one PC compatible controllers are just bluetooth, no more special dongle needed and also work with the consoles.

Bluetooth built in:


Non-Bluetooth:


Bluetooth, works with windows without the usb dongle:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LPNKGGI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1


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Chairman Mao posted:

Man it must have been easy for Microsoft to completely bulldoze the controller market on PC just by releasing a well built well designed controller that just worked when you plugged it in, literally the only loving one of its kind on a platform that seemed like it was from a parallel universe where madcatz won the war.

This was also how it worked the whole way back to the Duke, it was just USB with a different plug, but the drivers were community made from what I remember until MS relented and released their own XP drivers. So if you got just the breakaway end for cheap you could use the controller on either an xbox or PC with no modification to the actual controller.

Plinkey has a new favorite as of 21:42 on Aug 26, 2019

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Microsoft used to say that Bluetooth latency was overwhelming and that’s why they had to use a proprietary wireless protocol, but Sony managed to make Bluetooth work well.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Bluetooth used to be pretty laggy, people complained about BT mice as well but now they're good enough for casual use at least. I'm still using (very rarely) the 360 wireless controllers with a $5 knockoff wireless dongle, works perfectly fine.

Speaking of horrible controllers, a just recently LGR did a video on this fuckin thing:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtRqgszxZlg

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
That controller seems like it could be really cool if made properly.

SubNat
Nov 27, 2008

Platystemon posted:

Microsoft used to say that Bluetooth latency was overwhelming and that’s why they had to use a proprietary wireless protocol, but Sony managed to make Bluetooth work well.

As did Nintendo.

I wonder what their excuse is for still using AA batteries, and demanding 20usd(ish?) for a rechargable battery pack, on top of a 50-60usd controller?

The Playstation controllers have been rechargeable by default since 2006.
And the Wii-U controllers and up were also rechargeable.
(Hell, the Wii-U pro controllers had like 80+ hour battery life, and recharged with standard usb mini-b at the time.)

I really hope once XBONE2 comes out, that whatever controller rolls out with it will have an internal battery.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
How bout this controller, Novit Falcon, force feedback spacial controller

Someone connected a fleshlight to it

LifeSunDeath has a new favorite as of 22:14 on Aug 26, 2019

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I still don't get why people have such an aversion to AA batteries. You buy a pack of eneloops from Amazon (or any rechargable brand) and a decent battery charger and you're set for years. My xbone controller dies, throw in some new batteries and I'm good to go. My switch controller dies and I have to physically move to where I can plug a USB cable in to charge it.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Johnny Aztec posted:

Microsoft had a controller called "The Sidewinder" that IMO was very good, for the time. At the very least, I found it excellent for emulating NES and SNES games.
Not so much by the 2000s and you could emulate PS1 games easily.

The first one I had used a Gameport connection. Now, theres an obsolete technology for you.

I still have a Sidewinder Precision 2, and it still works great after god knows how many hours of flight sims/Elite. It must be close to 20 years old.

EDIT: ^^^ I have four AA Enerloops that I bought over ten years ago and they still work well enough for use in my cordless mouse.

A Real Happy Camper
Dec 11, 2007

These children have taught me how to believe.

Cojawfee posted:

I still don't get why people have such an aversion to AA batteries. You buy a pack of eneloops from Amazon (or any rechargable brand) and a decent battery charger and you're set for years. My xbone controller dies, throw in some new batteries and I'm good to go. My switch controller dies and I have to physically move to where I can plug a USB cable in to charge it.

Having had at least one PS4 controller become unusable wirelessly due to no longer holding a charge (and then a trigger giving out making it impossible to use at all), going back to my old 360 controller with some ikea rechargables has been an amazing experience. When it dies I just put in new batteries and throw the old ones on the charger.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Cojawfee posted:

I still don't get why people have such an aversion to AA batteries. You buy a pack of eneloops from Amazon (or any rechargable brand) and a decent battery charger and you're set for years. My xbone controller dies, throw in some new batteries and I'm good to go. My switch controller dies and I have to physically move to where I can plug a USB cable in to charge it.

Yeah, rechargeable AAs are great if the device doesn’t need the density of lithium ion (and controllers don’t).

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
I spliced a Xbox 1 duke & a couple random usb cables in the world's worst solder job. Yes it connected to the pc, but the real reason was to connect a keyboard so I could play phantasy star and chat

Iirc the Xbox either had an extra lead in the cable, possibly for the memory cards, but the guide I used was certain it was for the few gun controllers specifically.

I think in those days some usbs had a fifth yellow one for like... sensing devices were plugged in? Don't remember. I think if that's how usb is almost all devices dispensed with the wire and used the female plug itself.

Whatever the deal, mine had that extra yellow line and I just never connected it and left it hanging out loose lol

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day


you guys remember the game-gear would just chew through batteries...same with the lynx and gameboy.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Cojawfee posted:

That controller seems like it could be really cool if made properly.
3DConnexion makes 3D mice that can be mapped like joysticks.

LifeSunDeath posted:

How bout this controller, Novit Falcon, force feedback spacial controller
I have one of those. Unfortunately it doesn't have the gun controller so it's awkward to use, but it was still kind of fun playing through Half Life 2 with it. I should probably sell it since they're rare and you can get a few hundred bucks for them and it's been sitting in the box since I played HL2.

quote:

Someone connected a fleshlight to it

:stonk: The force feedback is strong enough that when it ran its automatic calibration mode, it sprained two of my fingers and almost broke them, but I guess "don't put your dick in that" is a challenge for some people.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

GWBBQ posted:

:stonk: The force feedback is strong enough that when it ran its automatic calibration mode, it sprained two of my fingers and almost broke them, but I guess "don't put your dick in that" is a challenge for some people.

:stonklol:

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

LifeSunDeath posted:



you guys remember the game-gear would just chew through batteries...same with the lynx and gameboy.

talk about eating batteries like they were candy...

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

LifeSunDeath posted:

you guys remember the game-gear would just chew through batteries...

I remember when I bought mine. Took it home, played my first game of Mickey Mouse, paused after a couple of levels and the batteries were dead.

I think space heaters used less power.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

LifeSunDeath posted:



you guys remember the game-gear would just chew through batteries...same with the lynx and gameboy.

It’s because there was a tiny fluorescent tube for the backlight, same with the Nomad and maybe the Lynx as well. There’s kits to replace them with LEDs these days for significantly extended battery life and better lighting. :science:

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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LifeSunDeath posted:



you guys remember the game-gear would just chew through batteries...same with the lynx and gameboy.

The worst are devices that can’t work with the twenty percent lower voltage of rechargeable cells.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
Oh snap i forgot this existed, never had a game gear but really wanted it for the TV situation

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



mobby_6kl posted:

Obviously it's gonna suck because who the hell used a stand-alone mp3 player but it's be cool as hell.

me, I do, else my phone won't last all day

the MP3 player runs on a single AAA battery for weeks

Skinnymansbeerbelly
Apr 1, 2010

Johnny Aztec posted:

Microsoft had a controller called "The Sidewinder" that IMO was very good, for the time. At the very least, I found it excellent for emulating NES and SNES games.
Not so much by the 2000s and you could emulate PS1 games easily.

The first one I had used a Gameport connection. Now, theres an obsolete technology for you.

My favorite thing about the OG Sidewinder was the ability to daisy chain controllers.

Unperson_47
Oct 14, 2007



I have a Sidewinder Precision that still works to this day. I played through Mechwarrior 3 with it last year. It does have a slight problem though; every few years I feel the need to get it out I have to let it discharge the static build-up because it has a huge-rear end metal base on it. It won't be detected by any computer if I don't.


This guy loving rules and now I have to watch every one of his videos.

Unperson_47 has a new favorite as of 04:35 on Aug 27, 2019

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Peanut Butler posted:

me, I do, else my phone won't last all day

the MP3 player runs on a single AAA battery for weeks
Is this a player that’s easily available? I could use a new one that runs on a standard battery instead of an internal, irreplaceable one.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

My first MP3 player ran on a single AA that lasted weeks even with the lovely no-brand kind my family got on clearance. It never broke, had expandable memory, an easily memorized control scheme, and let an awkward middle schooler feel better about not having a smartphone. (#latemillenialthings/#earlyzoomerthings) Plus it gave me some way to play all my pirated music outside. :shh:

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



LifeSunDeath posted:

Oh snap i forgot this existed, never had a game gear but really wanted it for the TV situation

I knew a guy who had one of these for his GBA. It had composite input so one day he brought his N64 to school and we played a few awkward rounds of Goldeneye on that tiny non-backlit screen

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Platystemon posted:

The worst are devices that can’t work with the twenty percent lower voltage of rechargeable cells.

*Looks angrily at Denon AV receiver remote*

They're Eneloop Pros, the best AA batteries you can get, you stupid piece of plastic!

KozmoNaut has a new favorite as of 07:43 on Aug 27, 2019

Unperson_47
Oct 14, 2007



KozmoNaut posted:

*Looks angrily at Denon AV receiver remote*

They're Eneloop Pros, the best AA batteries you can get, you stupid piece of plastic!

What is it about this remote that needs more juice?

Unperson_47 has a new favorite as of 08:38 on Aug 27, 2019

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Unperson_47 posted:

What is it about this remote that needs more juice?

It’s made with components that cut out at a relatively high voltage threshold.

NIMH can provide more juice (power) than alkalines, because their much lower internal resistance means they can handle higher currents.

This is great in electronic flashes for cameras, where NIMH cells (or disposable lithium cells) allow the flash to cycle much more rapidly, but some devices just aren’t designed for their low voltage and aren’t compatible.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Unperson_47 posted:

What is it about this remote that needs more juice?

1.5VDC vs 1.2VDC

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

Humphreys posted:

1.5VDC vs 1.2VDC

Which always annoyed me. If you are making a substitute for a 1.5V battery, why would you make it 1.2V?

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Shut up Meg posted:

Which always annoyed me. If you are making a substitute for a 1.5V battery, why would you make it 1.2V?

Chemistry.
1.2V is simple the compromise between price, capacity and voltage/chemistry.

Lurking Haro has a new favorite as of 11:13 on Aug 27, 2019

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

LifeSunDeath posted:

Oh snap i forgot this existed, never had a game gear but really wanted it for the TV situation


I had one and used it as a bedside TV. Getting a strong signal was a problem and it was useless in a car. I think there was a specific car antenna you could get.

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Shut up Meg posted:

Which always annoyed me. If you are making a substitute for a 1.5V battery, why would you make it 1.2V?

The materials the electrodes are made of determine the voltage.

Nature only gave us so many metals and most of them are unsuitable for one reason or another.

NIMH cells are actually a better substitute than the numbers would suggest. They have a very flat discharge curve—they’re near 1.2 V at both 90% charge and 10% charge.

Meanwhile, alkaline batteries do not have a flat curve. They drop below 1.2 V when they still have something like 40% of their charge left.

Any device that fails to work with NIMH cells is also using alkaline batteries quite inefficiently.

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