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How did they not write it off as the literal equivalent of putting a snowflake in a bucket?
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Mister Facetious posted:How did they not write it off as the literal equivalent of putting a snowflake in a bucket? Neoliberalism rots your brain. It makes you think literally everything can and should be solved by a market. Also, unless the machine some how vents the heat into space, the machine will cause a net increase of heat in the environment. It’s like suggesting people should keep their fridge door open to cool their home.
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Aug 26, 2019 00:45
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No you see, the ambient temperature will freeze it for free, lowering overhead costs! 
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Aug 26, 2019 00:48
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Did you know that technology fixes everything? Of course it does! https://twitter.com/kerplunkthemunk/status/1165686859713761280
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Aug 26, 2019 01:06
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Mister Facetious posted:How did they not write it off as the literal equivalent of putting a snowflake in a bucket? folks who place their belief in technocratic solutions to social problems don't have any incentive to look at the feasibility of the technology deployed. this is just a more obvious version of "self driving cars will fix traffic" in terms of unsubstantiated belief
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Aug 26, 2019 01:23
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luxury handset posted:folks who place their belief in technocratic solutions to social problems don't have any incentive to look at the feasibility of the technology deployed. this is just a more obvious version of "self driving cars will fix traffic" in terms of unsubstantiated belief At least self-driving cars don't outright violate the second law of loving thermodynamics
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Aug 26, 2019 01:28
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I can’t count the number of times that I’ve heard global warming handwaved away by stemlords who say that once it needs to be done badly enough, a Great Mind will come forward and invent A Thing and we’ll all be saved and continue on with business as usual. This probably explains Musk’s huge fanbase.
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Aug 26, 2019 02:13
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You see what happens Larry!? You see what happens when you cut funding to grade schools!?
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Aug 26, 2019 02:29
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This is a pretty great article. Some historian read every Wired magazine ever published, and wrote about how the era of disruption was pretty much 1995-2005, and is completely over now. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2056305119849492 quote:Disruption tells us that dominant firms are vulnerable, that they likely will not dominate for long. And that mythology has oriented researchers, journalists, investors, and entrepreneurs toward the vulnerability of old institutions and the dynamic potential of start-ups. Scholars from Jill Lepore (2014) to Matthew Hindman (2018) have drawn attention to the flaws in this mythology. But as Vincent Mosco (2004) notes, “Myths are neither true nor false, but living or dead.” My own work on Internet Time has, in its own small manner, helped breathe life into the myths of Internet Time and digital disruption. It is time for us to take a more critical look at stability and disruption. Today’s major platforms deploy the language of disruption to resist regulation. If they are behaving, in fact, more like stable monopolies, then they should be recognized as such.
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Aug 26, 2019 07:42
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Disruption was never about shaking up the market to bring on some imagined dream of competitive battleground of small firms. It was always about becoming the monopoly.
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Aug 26, 2019 13:46
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Disruption was never about shaking up the market to bring on some imagined dream of competitive battleground of small firms. It's also about finding a way to insert yourself into an industry, become a middle man, and squeeze some profit out of rent-seeking.
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Aug 26, 2019 15:03
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Literally “and then a miracle happens...” as a method of solving problems.  Also why is it every one of these idiots have to insist that any carbon-sequestering tech has to be run at a profit? Why can’t we just tax people and operate carbon-reducing tech as a necessary loss, where we eat the cost of the solar / wind farm powering the things and just run them as a manner of, uh, ensuring humanity doesn’t die? I swear, America can’t do loving anything without bringing its filthy little STD-ridden dick called capitalism along for the ride and insisting it gets a piece of the action. And capitalism fucks us all.
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Aug 26, 2019 15:14
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Trabisnikof posted:Good luck on your PIP! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH. PIPS!!!!!!!  I remember when I worked in a video game testing company as a games tester, they had a pip system, and I hated it. It wasn't bad on the first full time project I was on, but when I got moved to doing League of Legends skills testing it got really stupid and I got pip'd for not finding enough bugs, DESPITE: -90% of my work was doing scripts aka following a script of tests to do like making sure there weren't any issues with the skins; this had no bearing on my metrics other than not doing it would also get you pipped. -1 Bug 1 Person. If a team of four people was needed to find a bug only ONE person got to claim it. Unlike my previous team where we all shared credit on the bug. -And of course there was a QUOTA system that was a MOVING TARGET week to week; i,e: if people found a LOT of bugs over a 2 week period you needed to also find the AVERAGE number of bugs to not be pipped. So you never really know how many bugs you needed to find to not get pipped. On top of the fact that I never ever managed to get promoted or whatever, on the company email there would be recruitment calls for special projects to be senior/lead on some new project and having like 3-4 years experience at this point I easily qualified, I'd get to like, the "final round" and then someone else gets picked. I would try to contact the person asking for feedback as to why I wasn't picked in the end and it was like pulling teeth each time; one time was because the other guy had a portfolio and I didn't provide one, but only because they never asked, and wasn't mentioned in the ad, how am I supposed to know to give them a portfolio for an internal position? Why are they being ridiculously coy, why aren't they providing any kind of mentoring at all? Eventually I went back to school full time, tried a different game testing company but they were EVEN WORSE and were cracking down on people surfing the internet in their spare time, which I duteously ignored. Eventually I found a better job teaching highschool students games programming and things improved from there. I don't think I've ever worked in a more oppressive work environment then those two game testing companies, pip'ing you for being 5 minutes late unless the metro line was down for technical reasons; you were discouraged from discussing your pay with people; my supervisor who was a team lead, at one point got transfered DOWN to being a senior on some other project despite 8 years experience and also lost his pay for his old position and to my knowledge hasn't been given a better position in over 2 years since; and he was an astoundingly good lead. We were all like, technically "contractors" that were technically employed to some other company and not the game testing company itself. One day there was this old guy who built/maintained all of the desks and furnitures; and we were told he was let go because the company had a bad quarter and he was let go because he wasn't "revenue", the testers, we were revenue, so were fine.
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Aug 26, 2019 16:01
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Vanity Fair fails to admire Elon Musk.
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Aug 26, 2019 17:10
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Disruption was never about shaking up the market to bring on some imagined dream of competitive battleground of small firms. How are u posted:It's also about finding a way to insert yourself into an industry, become a middle man, and squeeze some profit out of rent-seeking. Absolutely. It's just nice to see it spelled out by an actual PolSci academic. There's even a chance that regulators might start listening. 
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Aug 26, 2019 21:02
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Raenir Salazar posted:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH. Oh man, outsourced video game testing is a nightmare for everyone invovlved. The dev's hate for it can also be tracked to the KPI-driven relationship. Oh, a text box is misaligned? You better believe that there's a bug filed for it for every localisation of the game. Then the devs need to be constantly reminded of the importance of correctly tracking and flagging dupes, which they find to be a complete waste of time. And let's not get started on the turnaround time for clarifications, urg... I'm legit surprised Riot is/was bothering with it because in my eyes, it only makes sense for companies that need that much testing manpower in occasional bursts in the first place.
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Aug 26, 2019 21:26
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Mister Facetious posted:You see what happens Larry!? You see what happens when you cut funding to grade schools!? I think this is more an issue with funding for mental health
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Aug 26, 2019 23:33
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Aramis posted:Oh man, outsourced video game testing is a nightmare for everyone invovlved. The dev's hate for it can also be tracked to the KPI-driven relationship. Oh, a text box is misaligned? You better believe that there's a bug filed for it for every localisation of the game. Then the devs need to be constantly reminded of the importance of correctly tracking and flagging dupes, which they find to be a complete waste of time. And let's not get started on the turnaround time for clarifications, urg... Or if they want to circumvent labor laws.
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Aug 27, 2019 00:40
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JK Fresco posted:I think this is more an issue with funding for mental health While crazy people are out there, I believe there's a fundamental lack of teaching in critical thinking/cross examination and research at the primary and secondary school levels. There's plenty enough sane people that believe in stupid poo poo that we don't need crazy people as a scapegoat. And yes, before you say it, I'm in favor of helping both. I still remember the reign of the right honorable Premier "Chainsaw" Mike Harris, who slashed funding to each. 
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Aug 27, 2019 01:45
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Aramis posted:Oh man, outsourced video game testing is a nightmare for everyone invovlved. The dev's hate for it can also be tracked to the KPI-driven relationship. Oh, a text box is misaligned? You better believe that there's a bug filed for it for every localisation of the game. Then the devs need to be constantly reminded of the importance of correctly tracking and flagging dupes, which they find to be a complete waste of time. And let's not get started on the turnaround time for clarifications, urg... I got into the business as an in-house tester. That path, all the way to exec level, doesn't exist anymore and the industry suffers for it.
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Aug 27, 2019 02:38
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Game testing contractor is just another part of the gig economy. Its Uber for nerds.
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Aug 27, 2019 04:31
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https://twitter.com/NishRocks/status/1166388405581709313
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Aug 27, 2019 17:59
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Lead out in cuffs posted:This is a pretty great article. Some historian read every Wired magazine ever published, and wrote about how the era of disruption was pretty much 1995-2005, and is completely over now. The author of this article is the guy who called Bret Stephens a bedbug. Edit: https://mobile.twitter.com/davekarpf/status/1166094950024515584 MickeyFinn fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Aug 27, 2019 |
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Aug 27, 2019 18:45
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MickeyFinn posted:The author of this article is the guy who called Bret Stephens a bedbug. Haha -- I didn't even know who Bret Stephens was, but this sounds awesome.
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Aug 27, 2019 19:09
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Oh lol, LinkedIn is trying to push this job at me: https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/1348333381 quote:At Postmates X, we are reimagining how things move in cities. Serve, our personable sidewalk delivery robot, is our vision for the future of delivery. It’s designed to take deliveries away from congested streets and onto underutilized alleys and sidewalks, to save energy, reduce emissions, reduce traffic, and make deliveries faster and cheaper. Why move two-pound burritos with two-ton cars? Yes, there are so many "underutilized alleys and sidewalks" in the more heavily populated parts of Vancouver that are totally not filled with pedestrians for this thing to get in the way of. Sounds like a great idea.
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Aug 27, 2019 19:12
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Has anyone thrown an iPhone at Bret Stephens
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Aug 27, 2019 19:13
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Oh lol, LinkedIn is trying to push this job at me: this technology is completely not mature because any place where it is feasible to have a small, slow robot moving along sidewalks is also a place where it is feasible for people to walk themselves to get a burrito, meaning your market is necessarily capped to folks who are too lazy or want the novelty of a robot with a max range of like 30 blocks
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Aug 27, 2019 19:16
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"Lazy humans" is a really big demographic though
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Aug 27, 2019 19:19
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Oh lol, LinkedIn is trying to push this job at me: Where I live, some of those "underutilized alleys" have hazards like potholes several inches deep filled with standing water, broken glass, uneven terrain, illegally parked trucks blocking the whole alley, and people who wouldn't hesitate to vandalize or steal a robot.
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Aug 27, 2019 19:24
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luxury handset posted:this technology is completely not mature because any place where it is feasible to have a small, slow robot moving along sidewalks is also a place where it is feasible for people to walk themselves to get a burrito, meaning your market is necessarily capped to folks who are too lazy or want the novelty of a robot with a max range of like 30 blocks OK but how far are we defining a block to be? In NYC it's 0.2 miles per block, but it varies elsewhere, and a lot of people with disabilities can't go more than a mile or two without major problems.
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Aug 27, 2019 19:26
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Has anyone proposed a robot-based delivery service where the robots are outsourced so the tech company can unload the risk related to having their property roaming the streets unattended? Like where you or I "invest" in the purchase of a delivery robot (helpfully financed by the delivery company if necessary) and then we connect it to their service and take a cut of the delivery fee. We would be responsible for maintenance of the robot of course and liable for any problems the robot might cause. This seems too obvious to have been missed unless the robot technology isn't there yet.
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Aug 27, 2019 19:34
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Konstantin posted:Where I live, some of those "underutilized alleys" have hazards like potholes several inches deep filled with standing water, broken glass, uneven terrain, illegally parked trucks blocking the whole alley, and people who wouldn't hesitate to vandalize or steal a robot. Ok but what if the robot had a gun
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Aug 27, 2019 19:35
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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luxury handset posted:this technology is completely not mature because any place where it is feasible to have a small, slow robot moving along sidewalks is also a place where it is feasible for people to walk themselves to get a burrito, meaning your market is necessarily capped to folks who are too lazy or want the novelty of a robot with a max range of like 30 blocks
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Aug 27, 2019 19:36
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Rent-A-Cop posted:I would rob that burrito robot just on principal. suck my woke dick posted:Ok but what if the robot had a gun
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Aug 27, 2019 19:37
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A gun is more dangerous to the owner than anyone else. Robot commits suicide, I get a burrito. Checkmate.
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Aug 27, 2019 19:39
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withak posted:Has anyone proposed a robot-based delivery service where the robots are outsourced so the tech company can unload the risk related to having their property roaming the streets unattended? Like where you or I "invest" in the purchase of a delivery robot (helpfully financed by the delivery company if necessary) and then we connect it to their service and take a cut of the delivery fee. We would be responsible for maintenance of the robot of course and liable for any problems the robot might cause. Tesla is working on it, appreciating cars I tell you! Rent-A-Cop posted:I would rob that burrito robot just on principal. Yeah, I don't really have a need to steal one of the scooters lying around, but I'd 100% be riding around looking for food to pilfer from these dumb robots.
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Aug 27, 2019 19:40
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BeeSeeBee posted:Tesla is working on it, appreciating cars I tell you! I was thinking something a little more accessible to a gig economy person, maybe in the $3-5k range for a robot that gets around on sidewalks and bike paths.
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Aug 27, 2019 19:43
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Spacewolf posted:OK but how far are we defining a block to be? my argument doesn't change if you formally define the distance covered by a block if you create a delivery robot with the same rough form factor as a pedestrian, then you are bound to use pedestrian infrastructure. this places a couple constraints on your robot -you can only operate where there is pedestrian infrastructure like sidewalks and crosswalks in good repair -your robot must move slowly enough to not be a hazard to actual humans sharing that infrastructure -if your robot is slower, the range at which it can operate while keeping food heated is somewhat limited as well these constrains necessarily restrict the operating area of your robot to places where food delivery makes the least sense. not no sense at all, i'm sure there are some applications for this robot. but nobody wants to order food to show up two hours from now, that's a long time to wait and the food will likely be gross by the time it shows up. assuming the robot moves at a brisk walking pace and we don't want to spend more than 30 minutes on a single delivery run, then the robot will be be able to travel about two miles. so it will work great in the major downtown areas which are already walkable and amenable to food delivery, but less so in the large areas of america which are designed for automobile travel. really this thing would just replace underpaid gig workers which... great???
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Oh lol, LinkedIn is trying to push this job at me: Robots getting mugged in dark alleys with no CCTV. It's a bizarre wealth redistribution method, but sure, why not.
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Aramis posted:Oh man, outsourced video game testing is a nightmare for everyone invovlved. The dev's hate for it can also be tracked to the KPI-driven relationship. Oh, a text box is misaligned? You better believe that there's a bug filed for it for every localisation of the game. Then the devs need to be constantly reminded of the importance of correctly tracking and flagging dupes, which they find to be a complete waste of time. And let's not get started on the turnaround time for clarifications, urg... Eeeeeeeeh. For a game like Riot (Speaking of which I got a really nice shirt out of the job from Riot and 50,000 RP so it wasn't all bad, the shirt even had my account nickname on the back!!!!) which charges a premium for cosmetics, its VERY important to test them thoroughly to make sure all of the visual effects and sound effects work; otherwise you'll get a mass of charge backs and bad PR. To make sure every skin works with every change and in every conceivable circumstances is a lot of manpower. This is just for skins; things like gameplay, balance, multiplayer, all of these were all basically their own dedicated teams with at least a dozen people; we had maybe 6 weeks lead time on the public build for testing changes. And this isn't even including the Polish team in Poland working for some other game testing company for some reason. The KPI's sucked though definitely and leads to the behavior you described where we would fight to include every bug we could and argue passive-aggressively with the developers in the comments. As for labour laws I think the main thing was denying us benefits. We worked 37.5 hours a week, did not have paid lunch breaks, no sick days, no vacation days. My understanding is the two big game testing companies in Montreal (VMC and Babel) basically both got bought out by Keywords Studios and its become vastly worse place to work. But I can see the need for a large dedicated and professional team of testers and why it might not be ideal to have a large in house team when a more professional 3rd party might be better at it. In. Theory. My understanding is the dev's/publisher are the ones who mandated quotas on us; which probably didn't help with our attitudes towards them. I never had to worry about quotas with Wizards of the Coast for MTGO. I think we typically could always find so many bugs with each new set that they saw no point. Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Aug 27, 2019 |
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