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My name is Eyebrows - Professor Pronounced Eyebrows!
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Darthemed posted:
Uncanny Origins : The Monarch.
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Aug 27, 2019 22:07
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How lesser known secondary mutation: the likeness of a picasso portrait.
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Aug 28, 2019 05:19
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I'm fine with the art style, but the left side of his head is some proper Liefeld Captain America chest fuckery.
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Aug 28, 2019 11:06
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I'm fine with the art style, but the left side of his head is some proper Liefeld Captain America chest fuckery. It's clearly intentional since he drew it with the same balance but from a slightly different angle in the two panels. It's also a really bad idea.
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Aug 30, 2019 04:21
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I'm fine with the art style, but the left side of his head is some proper Liefeld Captain America chest fuckery. 
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Aug 30, 2019 08:05
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I've noticed that in some foreign/non-U.S. comics that while the art is good, they usually draw and represent the black characters as caricatures.
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Aug 30, 2019 15:04
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Darthemed posted:
I think his secondary mutation is his eyebrows
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Aug 31, 2019 02:05
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Not every artist does it but Xavier's had prominent eyebrows since the beginning because he is based on Yul Brynner.
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Aug 31, 2019 02:22
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I'm reading through the follow up comics to Angel and holy hell how did this art get greenlit, it's like d-grade webcomic art.
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Sep 5, 2019 19:04
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Catfishenfuego posted:I'm reading through the follow up comics to Angel and holy hell how did this art get greenlit, it's like d-grade webcomic art. Looks like Andy Kuhn? The thing with licensed books is that most upper tier artists generally don't want to work on them unless it's really popular poo poo.
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Sep 5, 2019 19:19
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Catfishenfuego posted:I'm reading through the follow up comics to Angel and holy hell how did this art get greenlit, it's like d-grade webcomic art. reminds me of BPRD
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Sep 5, 2019 19:52
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Rhyno posted:The thing with licensed books is that most upper tier artists generally don't want to work on them unless it's really popular poo poo. or alternatively huge fans of the franchise in question
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Sep 5, 2019 19:59
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Digamma-F-Wau posted:or alternatively huge fans of the franchise in question Which usually ends in disaster when they realize they don't have the passion they thought they did.
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Sep 5, 2019 20:03
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Is it poor money compared to super hero comics?
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Sep 6, 2019 05:43
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Galvanik posted:Is it poor money compared to super hero comics? non Marvel/DC comic book companies tend to be poor money compared to Marvel/DC/Image, so I guess technically
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Sep 6, 2019 05:46
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Digamma-F-Wau posted:non Marvel/DC comic book companies tend to be poor money compared to Marvel/DC/Image, so I guess technically Dunno if this is the right thread for it since the "business of LCS" is gone but I'm genuinely curious as to what is considered poor money vs good in this field - is it like $40k a year for smaller companies and the Big 2 are double that? And the A-list guys, like say Hickman or Bendis - are they pulling in hundreds of thousands plus revenue/profit sharing? I believe many of the writers and artists are considered contractors as well so they don't even get healthcare, other benefits, etc.
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Sep 6, 2019 08:21
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This is another E&C field of knowledge. But as far as I know, you only get benefits if you are a full time employee of the big two.
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Sep 6, 2019 13:42
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As a rule signing an exclusive contract with Marvel or DC gives you and your family health insurance. But there's a lot of variance in exclusive contracts: some of them allow for outside creator-owned or television/film/prose work and some don't, some contracts stipulate a certain number of books/pages, some guarantee Project X or Y will happen, and I can feel like there have been scenarios where a creator turns down the health insurance (whether it's because they're covered by a spouse, aren't based out of the US, think they're too young and healthy for it to matter) and take a higher base pay in place of the insurance. But after they sort of stopped the Exclusives War of the 1990s, it's harder to tell who exactly has these contracts, and it's probably not the majority of creators at the Big Two. Based solely on searching Newsarama (who faithfully reprint pretty much every press release) for "exclusive" show that in the past year or so DC has announced "exclusive contracts" with Brian Michael Bendis, Alvaro Martinez Bueno, Mitch Gerads, Jorge Jimenez, David Marquez, Sean Murphy, Steve Orlando, Robson Rocha, Rafa Sandoval, Otto Schmidt, Tim Seeley, Liam Sharp, and James Tynion IV. Marvel has similarly announced exclusives with Ed Brisson, Donny Cates, Patrick Gleason, Tini Howard, Matthew Rosenberg, Kelly Thompson, and Chip Zdarsky. The contracts themselves are kind of weird (not that I've seen any of them, but people will describe theirs sometimes) in that I don't think most of them have guaranteed money, but they may offer a rate premium. Some of them have quotas for pages/covers and if your two years is up and you haven't written/drawn enough to satisfy the contract you're still on the hook. This combination leads to some of the weirdness that you see in comics, including fill-ins in both directions; not to point fingers at anyone but it's one of (a huge number of reasons) that some books will just get delayed for months because of a writer or artist being late, while other times rather than let a book slip off the schedule for two weeks you a co-writer or eight pages of a book drawn by someone out of nowhere. It's also why sometimes an A/B list artist is suddenly doing a fill in on a C-list book, that's definitely been a case of 'if I don't draw something I'll never fulfill my contract/get paid, and A-list writer is three months behind on scripts, so... there's a Cowboys of MOO Mesa vs. Punisher book coming out in November? Put me in, coach!" It *does* make me kind of even more curious about whatever is going on with Johns's books over at DC, given that Frank/Fabok/Eaglesham may not be on exclusive contracts (they've all had them in the past, but I can't find any info if they're in one currently) but all of them have had their productivity (in terms of published work) plummet since their various Johns projects kicked off a couple of years ago. I should say all three of them live outside of the United States so at least the health insurance thing isn't an issue for them. As to the original question about how much money there is in doing comics, it varies wildly. Marvel and DC generally pay better than [insert indie here] but within both realms the variance is still pretty high. No one really ever talks about it so it's all reading tea leaves.
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Sep 6, 2019 15:11
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I realize the info might not be available then but I wonder which writers have made the most money off comic writing and related media. Kirkman from tv? Millar from Kinsgman? Ennis is probably getting something for Boys + Preacher. Moore by sheer volume?
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Sep 6, 2019 22:52
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Moore has said that the money for his stuff getting adapted isn't great, which is why he made the decision to not be credited on adaptations any more and just gives the money to the artist.
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Sep 6, 2019 23:08
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I think it's hard to top Stan Lee, probably. Without knowing any of the details (and not being sure entirely what 'counts' as money coming from comics/comic related media) I'm guessing Lee might be edged out by folks like Jim Davis and Charles Schulz, if you want to count them. Also Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird are probably in the mix, they fully owned the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles during the peak of their popularity in the late 1980s/early 1990s, and sold them to Nickelodeon for about $10M back in 2009. Based on the entirely spurious and arbitrary Celebrity Net Worth website, they've got Charles Schulz: $1 Billion Jim Davis: $800M Matt Groening: $600M Todd McFarlane: $300M (?!?!) Bill Watterson: $100M Scott Adams: $75M Gary Larson: $70M Stan Lee: $50M Frank Miller: $45M Garry Trudeau: $40M Robert Kirkman: $30M Mark Millar: $25M Kevin Eastman: $20M Robert Crumb: $20M Brad Meltzer: $20M Neil Gaiman: $18M Jamie Hewlett: $15M Peter Laird: $20M Alan Moore: $10M Jim Lee: $10M Chris Claremont: $10M Marc Silvestri: $8M J. Michael Straczynski: $6M Paul Dini: $6M Geoff Johns: $5M Brian Michael Bendis: $4M George Perez: $3M John Byrne: $3M Rob Liefeld: $2M Craig Thompson: $1M While this list still feels like just someone throwing darts at poo poo, it mostly makes sense to me (McFarlane aside, unless I'm missing something), though it also feels like it's taking into account not just income but like "how have you handled your money", since someone like Liefeld was probably making more than $2M a year during the early days of Image, and Eastman/Laird made tons of money but also poured a ton of it back into weird projects and doomed publishing initiatives and the Xeric Grant and etc. etc. etc. Also obviously I understand if you don't consider the Simpsons TV show as 'comics related' or the money Schulz/his estate get for Met Life ads to be officially "comics related". Even some of the lower ranked people like JMS and Gaiman have probably made more money outside of comics than in it.
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Sep 6, 2019 23:29
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The Gary Larson one kind of surprises me as The Far Side hasn't been a thing in ages, never got turned into any other media (as far as I know) and doesn't really get printed any more.
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Sep 6, 2019 23:34
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Madkal posted:The Gary Larson one kind of surprises me as The Far Side hasn't been a thing in ages, never got turned into any other media (as far as I know) and doesn't really get printed any more. Licensing. Those t-shirts and calendars add up.
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Sep 6, 2019 23:42
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Madkal posted:The Gary Larson one kind of surprises me as The Far Side hasn't been a thing in ages, never got turned into any other media (as far as I know) and doesn't really get printed any more. There were collection books and calendars for sure.
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Sep 6, 2019 23:43
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Far Side books, calendars (esp. comic-a-day desk calendars), and greeting cards were everywhere in the late 1980s. It was a legit cultural phenomenon. e: I'm pleased to see that Bill Watterson still has more money than Scott Adams, even though he retired 25 years ago to live quietly and walked away from a zillion dollars in merchandising offers while Adams has spent that quarter century endless shilling stuff (the Dilberito! books about brain magic! a series of seminars for pointy-haired bosses!). FMguru fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Sep 6, 2019 |
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Sep 6, 2019 23:47
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IIRC, he was making new strips exclusively for calendars for a while. They were ridiculously popular
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Sep 6, 2019 23:49
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It was in a lot of newspapers. I think it still is in some places.
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Sep 6, 2019 23:52
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Todd McFarlane has all that sweet sweet action figure money.
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Sep 6, 2019 23:58
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There was a Far Side animated special at one point but that's probably nothing compared to decades of calendars. As for Todd, I bet he just managed to sell the Spawn rights at exactly the right time to make a ton of money.
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Sep 7, 2019 02:59
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I misread "Jim Davis" as "Jack Davis" and was pretty confused for a minute.
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Sep 7, 2019 03:13
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Todd has some major financial problems some years ago, is there a ranking for most money lost?
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Sep 7, 2019 07:10
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I figure Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa must be making decent bank as creator/showrunner for Riverdale, even if he's not in the Groening/Schulz level. Does Greg Berlanti count, even though AFAIK he's never written any actual comics?
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Sep 7, 2019 14:10
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Rhyno posted:Todd has some major financial problems some years ago, is there a ranking for most money lost? Stan Lee?
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Sep 8, 2019 08:26
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I feel like being exploited at the end of your life shouldn't count.
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Sep 8, 2019 09:49
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what the gently caress
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Sep 8, 2019 11:39
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It's not like he willingly made those decisions, he was manipulated. Todd threw his money away of his own free will.
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Sep 8, 2019 12:19
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FMguru posted:Far Side books, calendars (esp. comic-a-day desk calendars), and greeting cards were everywhere in the late 1980s. It was a legit cultural phenomenon. All those Official Calvin Peeing On _________ stickers add up to a whole lotta dough. (edit: plus all that Ritalin and Adderall pharma stock he invested in, of course.)
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Sep 9, 2019 05:18
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 Silver Surfer: Black #4  Event Leviathan #4  King Thor #1
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Trad Moore is so loving good. I like the event leviathan page too. The third one does nothing for me though. It’s just standard fare comic art.
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