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Igotadigbick posted:I have a mighty need to play some wow classic, but my mac died and I am too poor to fix it or get a new, better, not-a-loving-mac PC. My mac screen needed replacing, I dropped 550 on a new screen, and in the worst luck I've had all year, that somehow cracked 2 weeks later. The guys in the shop were really sympathetic, tried to get the supplier to send a new one, but no dice. Then one of them sold me his gaming laptop for 500 quid off a 1500 retail price. Nice dudes. Cost me all my savings, but hey.
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1166740562814341120?s=21 quote:Determining whether Johnson would be breaking the law by ignoring any successful rebel legislation or refusing to resign in the event he lost a vote of no confidence. This seems like it should be the headline and entire text of the article.
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e; ^^^ Incredible that our system runs so much on 'convention' that failing to resign after losing a VONC may not even be illegal.Saith posted:I can't believe Blizzard has gotten away with charging people money for a game they probably bought 15 years ago (and was made free like 6 years ago) without all the improvements and expansions and poo poo like what the gently caress gamers what is wrong with you? Eh, it's folded into the regular subscription so those of us poor fools who are already subbed to WoW are playing vanilla for 'free'. I haven't got around to logging in yet except snagging a character, but I'm looking forward to indulging in some nostalgia now and then, even if I would really have preferred TBC servers. Also strongly looking forward to seeing the people who never played Vanilla not grasping just how rough it was in comparison to today, and then gleefully informing them that at the time it was radically more accessible and easier than most of its contemporaries.
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Ms Adequate posted:e; ^^^ Incredible that our system runs so much on 'convention' that failing to resign after losing a VONC may not even be illegal. Ehh that's better than I thought, actually. I'm a big old hypocrit anyway since I'm definitely gonna grab the Warcraft 3 remake when it comes out so.
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Been hard to keep up with all this stuff while on nightshift. I can't believe Jonny Cronin has caused brexit by stopping parliament from sitting. Have some top tier brainworms https://twitter.com/JonnyGeller/status/1166757264302235650?s=19
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:I mean, I'm half tempted to drop £15 on it because I don't think Blizz made that many sweeping changes to vanilla content from launch to when I started apart from bug fixes and maybe taking aggro off mobs in the starting areas This includes a subscription to modern wow excluding BfE, so I suspect a lot of the people getting excited are lifers who wanted a nostalgia kick and were paying for the subscription anyway.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Where are you getting £15 from? It's £10/pcm and you don't need to buy the base game any more. force of habit from reading so many American stories about it, and i think their subs are $15 a month
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Where are you getting £15 from? It's £10/pcm and you don't need to buy the base game any more. And that's if you only buy 30 days credit at a time. If you know you're in for the long haul it's a bit over £8 a month.
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:I have hope we aren't as servile as we seem imo you had probably better start formulating plans for what happens when brexit happens and they start jamming through trade deals and selling off the nhs and poo poo
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I'm somewhat skeptical they could even accomplish much, they've still got gently caress all for a majority and I don't think the tories as a whole actually have any coherent plan past brexit, plus once brexit's off the table there's gonna still be poo poo like no jobs and nan dying of no insulin and poo poo, seems like even if boris manages to do it he's still gonna hand labour a crushing majority afterwards.
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https://twitter.com/JackNic02816414/status/1166753927800532994 This bot's got good English. Also what devastation?
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I’ve decided I think Johnson is bluffing. The best future for the Conservative party is to be the noble warriors who did everything they could to deliver a Glorious Brexit for the nation but were stabbed in the back by perfidious effete lefties. The other options are to back down in some way - which would deliver half their vote or more to the Brexit Party, or actually deliver Brexit - which would annihilate their support as they would become indelibly linked to the horrors that would follow. So they will appear to do everything possible to make Brexit happen but then allow a VONC at the last moment to let an election happen before the Sword of Damocles drops, and then try as subtly as possible to lose. A time in opposition bashing on socialism would probably be good for them. I don’t care if this is true or not, this line of thinking is going to help me stave off suicide for a few more days at least. Comrade Fakename fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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Boris Johnson, Master StrategistOwlFancier posted:I'm somewhat skeptical they could even accomplish much, they've still got gently caress all for a majority and I don't think the tories as a whole actually have any coherent plan past brexit, plus once brexit's off the table there's gonna still be poo poo like no jobs and nan dying of no insulin and poo poo, seems like even if boris manages to do it he's still gonna hand labour a crushing majority afterwards. in the unlikely event you are wrong, i am willing to grant goons cushy positions in various toll road warlordships after Boris privatizes the British road system and sells it to American consultancies for Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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Nonsense posted:Also what devastation? The devastation of people with brown skin living on the same road.
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DesperateDan posted:Got an email a few mins ago that refers to today's events but is otherwise "sign the petition and give money" which is a bit less than "report to your CLP to be given some hand grenades and a rifle" but there's always hope- Ahahahahahwhahaha "there's always Hope" is possibly the most wrong thing I've seen in my years of reading Ukmt
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Replies do contain possibly the first correct opinion I've seen in the wild: https://twitter.com/dyson123/status/1166797359319330816
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Comrade Fakename posted:I’ve decided I think Johnson is bluffing. The best future for the Conservative party is to be the noble warriors who did everything they could to deliver a Glorious Brexit for the nation but were stabbed in the back by perfidious effete lefties. The other options are to back down in some way - which would deliver half their vote or more to the Brexit Party, or actually deliver Brexit - which would annihilate their support as they would become indelibly linked to the horrors that would follow. I don't know if I can believe they've got this much cunning or the sense to self-sacrifice and be in opposition for awhile, but at the same time Boris is certainly vastly more likely to try a gambit like this than Pigfucker or Wheatfields ever was. Please don't off yourself though. OwlFancier posted:Replies do contain possibly the first correct opinion I've seen in the wild: All the cats, too. A Good Boomer  forkboy84 posted:Ahahahahahwhahaha There must be hope. I say that as a cynical misanthrope who thinks by century's end the most likely circumstance is a couple of fascist states in the polar extremes and everyone else is baking. But I have to hope that I'm wrong, I have to hope that we're going to turn this thing around while it's still, well, it's already too late but while the consequences are still something we can handle. Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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You'll look like a right tit if we're all commissars in the corbynist purges and you're dead.
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That could work if the brown was like, dried bovril or something. Also hope is inherently irrational, like that's literally the point of it, envisioning your preferred outcome regardless of the realities. Otherwise it's prediction, not hope.
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OwlFancier posted:Also hope is inherently irrational, like that's literally the point of it, envisioning your preferred outcome regardless of the realities. Otherwise it's prediction, not hope.
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Hope or die. And that's descriptive, not instructive.
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Chuka Umana posted:You’re either with labour or you’re a fascist. It’s that simple. gently caress off. I mean really, no. Until Labour acknowledge the reality that capitalism has to be overthrown and that's not happening through liberal democracy there are plenty reasons for not being with them. Chuka Umana posted:I was being flippant but when is the social democratic aspect of the lib dems going to flex their muscle? It died with Charles Kennedy. But really the SDP wasn't actually all that social democratic, it was the a bunch of liberals taking the huff and making sure social democrats couldn't win the '83 election. Probably a valuable lesson in there for today. Ms Adequate posted:There must be hope. I say that as a cynical misanthrope who thinks by century's end the most likely circumstance is a couple of fascist states in the polar extremes and everyone else is baking. But I have to hope that I'm wrong, I have to hope that we're going to turn this thing around while it's still, well, it's already too late but while the consequences are still something we can handle. I mean yeah, I get all that but sometimes hope gets in the way of doing what needs done. Which is revolution and the abolition of capitalism. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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Pochoclo posted:Here's a really cool youtube channel to watch while drunk and hopeless Link doesn't work.
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OwlFancier posted:I'm somewhat skeptical they could even accomplish much, they've still got gently caress all for a majority and I don't think the tories as a whole actually have any coherent plan past brexit, plus once brexit's off the table there's gonna still be poo poo like no jobs and nan dying of no insulin and poo poo, seems like even if boris manages to do it he's still gonna hand labour a crushing majority afterwards. Why are you assuming that Boris cares about exercising power through parliamentary democracy when his every effort in his entire career has been to sideline or destroy it? The only real question is whether he's going for a dictatorship or a simple disaster-capitalist smash-and-grab - personally, I'm betting on the latter. Like, his government has been publicly attacking its own civil service's no-deal forecasts and trying to cripple our main legislative body ahead of blowing up our trade relationship with our biggest trading partner (and, erm, all our other trading partners). That is not the behaviour of someone seeking a sustainable government.
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forkboy84 posted:I mean yeah, I get all that but sometimes hope gets in the way of doing what needs done. Which is revolution and the abolition of capitalism. You've got a strange notion of revolution if you think hope is counterproductive to it lol.
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Darth Walrus posted:Why are you assuming that Boris cares about exercising power through parliamentary democracy when his every effort in his entire career has been to sideline or destroy it? The only real question is whether he's going for a dictatorship or a simple disaster-capitalist smash-and-grab - personally, I'm betting on the latter. Like, his government has been publicly attacking its own civil service's no-deal forecasts and trying to cripple our main legislative body ahead of blowing up our trade relationship with our biggest trading partner (and, erm, all our other trading partners). That is not the behaviour of someone seeking a sustainable government. It's extremely the behaviour of a moron though and boris is a product, he is something saleable and only ever gets anywhere when someone realises that, or when everyone else has given up. I don't at all believe he actually knows what he's doing or thinks more than about ten minutes into the future. He can't say no to things that feed his ego despite being really bad at everything he does. But he like many of his class have blundered into a succession of organizations, papers, parties etc, who have found a use for him. Boris isn't a dictator, he's done nothing that isn't entirely within the functioning of parliament. None of the tories have done anything except be very passive aggressive about toeing the line of how our government works. Everything that has happened has happened because a majority of tories want it to happen. And because they are too spineless to accept a short term or personal setback in service of evading a longer term collapse of their party. I could characterise this as a complete failure of the tory leadership since cameron bottled it because much like blair he was the only one with any political acumen to speak of. It's been a succession of self aggrandizing power grabbers since then. Their party needs someone willing to bite the bullet and cede ground to labour in exchange for a chance to recoup power later, but none of them can do that, none of them have the care or foresight because that doesn't involve their personal glorification, which is why they've all jumped headlong onto brexit as a chance for glory and why none of them have the faintest idea how to actually proceed from there. There is this belief that the tories have some cunning plan to make brexit work for them but I don't see any compelling evidence of that at all. I see a succession of third rate politicians who would never have gotten near the premiership under normal circumstances but who won it basically by default, because all their competition was even worse. A no deal brexit will cause major damage to the functioning of the UK but I don't believe the tories have any plan to deal with that or that they can actually benefit from it, it seems entirely probable to me that it will lead to emergency measures to keep goods coming into the country, a succession of bungled attempts to enforce a hard border with no infrastructure for it, shortages, civil unrest without the police presence or possibly even motivation to quash it, and either a VONC finally as a handful of tories start to seriously worry about their own necks in the literal sense or an election by default if they can stretch out the damage for long enough. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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OwlFancier posted:It's extremely the behaviour of a moron though and boris is a product, he is something saleable and only ever gets anywhere when someone realises that, or when everyone else has given up. I don't at all believe he actually knows what he's doing or thinks more than about ten minutes into the future. This isn't simple blundering according to established tradition, though. That was his mayoral job. This is actively coming in with a detailed agenda to blow up the sovereign governing body of the UK and sabotage civil service readiness. What he's doing may not be against any specific rules, but it's carving through the loose gentlemen's agreements and centuries of precedent holding the country together in a way that is likely fatal to the current British democratic system - it's the biggest power-grab by the executive from the legislature since the fuckin' seventeenth century.
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Darth Walrus posted:This isn't simple blundering according to established tradition, though. That was his mayoral job. This is actively coming in with a detailed agenda to blow up the sovereign governing body of the UK and sabotage civil service readiness. What he's doing may not be against any specific rules, but it's carving through the loose gentlemen's agreements and centuries of precedent holding the country together in a way that is likely fatal to the current British democratic system - it's the biggest power-grab by the executive from the legislature since the fuckin' seventeenth century. What is the difference between an egotistical idiot without a conception of how the government works or political consequences trying to brute force his way through a complicated problem, and an ultra cunning would be dictator in this instance? Again if there was nothing stopping people from doing this all along this isn't substantively a change to how the country works, what this is is simply a change in the quality of the politicians, a problem the US is also experiencing. They aren't heading for a coup either, if they get a dictator it's because they'll elect one, because they'll want one. This is exceptional blundering, is the point. Normally someone like boris would get filtered out by the processes that are supposed to ensure prime ministers have the education and political talent required to make their malformed projects look palatable. What you are observing is the effect of cults of personality and neolib consensus utterly evacuating the political talent from the established parties. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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OwlFancier posted:What is the difference between an egotistical idiot without a conception of how the government works or political consequences trying to brute force his way through a complicated problem, and an ultra cunning would be dictator in this instance? You're conflating competence with malice. Stop that. Even dumbasses can have detailed, malicious plans and agendas. They're just cruder. Consider Bolsonaro or Duterte. You're also assuming that loose guidelines and tradition are 'nothing'. Those guidelines and traditions were put into practice because the last person to test Parliament's sovereignty on a grand scale got his head lopped off, and they ended up informing and shaping the entire culture and structure of the British government as a body for centuries. If you blow them up, you're going against hundreds of years of institutional inertia designed to prevent this exact thing from happening. It's not a pursuit for the lazy, because at every step you will encounter thousands of tiny obstacles from an organisation that doesn't specifically ban you from doing this, but was never designed or trained to do it. Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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Your position is predicated on competence! That boris has some super clever plan to make brexit somehow work for him rather than working wholly on the short term! That is the point I am contesting. I'm sure he'd like to be king forever but that does not have any bearing on his ability to approach that point. There is no compelling mechanism between boris defaulting the country into no deal brexit and then him somehow coming out the other end as king of the UK or somehow passing enormous amounts of legislation to privatise everything with his almost non existent majority while the country collapses around him. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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OwlFancier posted:Your position is predicated on competence! That boris has some super clever plan to make brexit somehow work for him rather than working wholly on the short term! That is the point I am contesting. I'm sure he'd like to be king forever but that does not have any bearing on his ability to approach that point. I said he was most likely going for smash-and-grab disaster capitalism. It doesn't take a genius to short the pound when you're doing the ultimate in insider trading, or to sell off the country in a way that makes you personally very rich even if you're poo poo at haggling (because national assets are very valuable). Plenty of unexceptionally intelligent heads of state have managed it in the past.
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I'm fairly sure he needs parliament to let him do that, which again, would be no different from any other government we've had in history, they can all do that if they want to. What stops them has always been politics, not the system of government. And now you have a government full of people too stupid to do politics and a populace too disengaged to do it either. Such is the final triumph of neoliberalism. But boris is operating on an absolute knife edge against a party which for all its faults has a much better grasp of politics at the leadership level than he does, than anyone in his party does. And demographically I think we are as a country moving towards greater politicization among the younger members of society, and that this will increase as time goes on and the established order further collapses. So there is a significant chance he could be out on his ear. I would prefer this to before he manages to undo the necessary diplomatic arrangements we have with the continent but it could well be after as well, and we would still be poised to have an important, active political project on the left with the tory party in utter ruins. The fight doesn't end if we NDB, the tories don't really win, I don't think. They blow off their own dick and unfortunately a lot of other people's too, but I really don't think they come out of it in a good way. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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In all seriousness, we should all be stock piling materials so we can defend ourselves when the tory-led groups of bandits comes to raid our homes
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Johnson has spent his entire life wanting to be Prime Minister, so I doubt he'd throw the job away for the chance to make some money, particularly when he's perfectly capable of earning a shitload more by exploiting his inbred posh friends. He'll totally go full-dictator if it's the only way to cling on to power, though.
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kingturnip posted:Johnson has spent his entire life wanting to be Prime Minister, so I doubt he'd throw the job away for the chance to make some money, particularly when he's perfectly capable of earning a shitload more by exploiting his inbred posh friends. He literally said "I see number ten as a stepping stone to the white house" back when he was doing his big US tour after he was Mayor of London. Also recent investigations have found he never renounced his US citizenship.
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Verizian posted:He literally said "I see number ten as a stepping stone to the white house" back when he was doing his big US tour after he was Mayor of London. Also recent investigations have found he never renounced his US citizenship. I can't imagine many Republicans voting for an Englisher, can you?
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