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TwoPair posted:*pushes up nerd glasses* how the hell is superman not as worthy as thor
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# ? Aug 27, 2019 22:43 |
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site posted:how the hell is superman not as worthy as thor Those dang immigrants. They come over here, take our hammers. I won't stand for it, by Odin!
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# ? Aug 27, 2019 22:47 |
site posted:how the hell is superman not as worthy as thor Odin (and later the hammer itself) has his own standards for the worthy thing, it's meant to be wielded by a great warrior. Superman might just be too nice for it.
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# ? Aug 27, 2019 22:48 |
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well, odin is a pretty huge rear end in a top hat so i can see that, but imo retconned storm god hammer would totally let clark wield it
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# ? Aug 27, 2019 22:56 |
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Thor is basically a weapon for loving up frost giants. Odin wants someone who won't hesitate.
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# ? Aug 27, 2019 23:07 |
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Wonder Woman is a much better candidate to be worthy than Superman, given reasonable assumptions about the Asgardian moral code.
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# ? Aug 28, 2019 00:14 |
Admiralty Flag posted:Wonder Woman is a much better candidate to be worthy than Superman, given reasonable assumptions about the Asgardian moral code. I'm pretty sure she's wielded Mjolnir too. Honestly the worthy thing has always been a bit Quasi. Classic Thor was always a very honorable character and a brave warrior but it'd be hard to say he's that much more noble than any of the major heroes in the setting, yet none of them can lift it except Cap. And then over time Thor got written as increasingly flawed and a bit of a party animal and it was like, shouldn't Wolverine be able to pick this up if this dude can? Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Aug 28, 2019 |
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# ? Aug 28, 2019 00:19 |
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Superman is a drat naive boyscout. Superman may be "Good", but that doesn't mean he is "worthy" by the Asgard metrics.
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# ? Aug 28, 2019 00:20 |
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I love this Superman pastiche that showed up during the Incursion storyline. Essentially multiple Earths were phasing into each other, but the Illuminati had found a way to avert it every time so far, untill they run out of options and decide they're going to have to destroy an inhabited planet. That's when an an alternate universe Justice League shows up....... WaywardWoodwose fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Aug 28, 2019 |
# ? Aug 28, 2019 00:52 |
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kinda funny everyone forgot Vision picks up Mjölnir in the movies
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# ? Aug 28, 2019 05:22 |
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Its like if you dropped it in an elevator.
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# ? Aug 28, 2019 05:32 |
Push El Burrito posted:Nah, some guy named Dargo. Then there was actually a 2099 Thor. Oh yeah, Dargo. But I'm about 95% sure there was a scene where Miguel wielded it. "You have no idea how powerful this thing is. We used to use it to drive starships." - Steve Rogers, in 2099.
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# ? Aug 28, 2019 06:26 |
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Parahexavoctal posted:Oh yeah, Dargo. But I'm about 95% sure there was a scene where Miguel wielded it. When they ended the 2099 series Miguel ends up becoming Thor. The Miguel that travelled back in time and has been doing stuff over the last decade is technically from another dimension than the original 2099 timeline which had a pretty definitive end.
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# ? Aug 28, 2019 07:38 |
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Lurdiak posted:Odin (and later the hammer itself) has his own standards for the worthy thing, it's meant to be wielded by a great warrior. Superman might just be too nice for it.
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# ? Aug 28, 2019 12:34 |
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Skwirl posted:Eric Masterson Storm briefly did, using Mjolnir to break the fake one that Loki created for her. In What If, both Rogue and Black Widow picked up Mjolnir. Widow was depicted as worthy while Rogue's was more from absorbing Thor himself. Gavok fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Aug 28, 2019 |
# ? Aug 28, 2019 13:45 |
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Synthbuttrange posted:Its like if you dropped it in an elevator. Vision couldn't summon lightning. So yeah, he's not worthy, just an elevator.
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# ? Aug 28, 2019 18:59 |
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Vision's worthy.
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# ? Aug 28, 2019 19:04 |
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I mean all I'm saying is if he's so worthy why is he so dead?
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# ? Aug 28, 2019 19:17 |
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Mulva posted:I mean all I'm saying is if he's so worthy why is he so dead? Thor's been dead a lot, too, friend.
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# ? Aug 28, 2019 20:07 |
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If Superman had been from Oklahoma instead of Kansas Odin would have found him worthy just so he would let Odin borrow his tractor the next time Asgard needs to move in.
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# ? Aug 28, 2019 21:00 |
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Dan Didio posted:Vision's worthy. Then so's the elevator
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# ? Aug 28, 2019 23:13 |
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Which begs the question, is Vision in Valhalla now?
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# ? Aug 28, 2019 23:36 |
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A pickup truck couldn’t budge Mjollnir, so it depends on who’s operating the elevator.
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# ? Aug 28, 2019 23:49 |
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Samuringa posted:Which begs the question, is Vision in Valhalla now? Mecha-Valhalla is a concept I’d like to explore
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# ? Aug 29, 2019 00:08 |
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Then so's the elevator The elevator never lifts it. Samuringa posted:Which begs the question, is Vision in Valhalla now? Yes.
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# ? Aug 29, 2019 01:49 |
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Samuringa posted:Which begs the question, is Vision in Valhalla now? No, he didn't die with a weapon in his hand.
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# ? Aug 29, 2019 02:04 |
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muscles like this! posted:No, he didn't die with a weapon in his hand. Does the weapon need to be in the hand or can it be in the hand, i.e. Wolverine?
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# ? Aug 29, 2019 02:22 |
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the weapon was in his head
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# ? Aug 29, 2019 02:25 |
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Whoa, that's deep.
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# ? Aug 29, 2019 02:38 |
CityMidnightJunky posted:Then so's the elevator The elevator is worthy because it's powered by electricity
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# ? Aug 29, 2019 02:39 |
site posted:the weapon was in his head Yeah, my guitar's in my mind! Leave it to Visiiooooon!
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# ? Aug 29, 2019 02:59 |
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Thaddius the Large posted:Mecha-Valhalla is a concept I’d like to explore Optimus Prime ends up there so often they gave him a loyalty card to get stamped
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# ? Aug 29, 2019 05:34 |
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site posted:the weapon was in his head Vision gives powerful dome.
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# ? Aug 29, 2019 06:00 |
Phy posted:Optimus Prime ends up there so often they gave him a loyalty card to get stamped He doesn't die that often though? Like the original TV series is whatever, but I don't recall him being resurrected that often in the comics? Or at least he doesn't in the series that I've read
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# ? Aug 29, 2019 06:28 |
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Infinitum posted:He doesn't die that often though? Like the original TV series is whatever, but I don't recall him being resurrected that often in the comics? Maybe not often in the same series, but Optimus dying at least once is drat near a multiversal constant. I guess he doesn't always come back, but dude sure does die a lot.
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# ? Aug 29, 2019 06:40 |
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Yeah, it's more a joke about the aggregate character's revolving door attitude towards death than a statement of fact regarding any particular incarnation. (Although in the later IDW comics, there was a diagnosed psychiatric disorder among Autobots called Primus Apotheosis, wherein the sufferer is driven to paint themselves red and blue with truck windows for a chest, clamp a faceplate over their mouth, and in the worse cases, sacrifice their life at the earliest opportunity for even the most remotely noble cause.)
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# ? Aug 29, 2019 07:12 |
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sticksy posted:That is pretty cool. Wasn't there also something with Nazi Cap? It might have been an illusion. Honestly, I barely remember a thing about that mess of an event.
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# ? Aug 29, 2019 09:26 |
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Mjolnir was altered by Kobik at Evil Steve's request so that it said, like, "if he be STRONG" instead of "worthy". That's why Hydra Cap could wield it.
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# ? Aug 29, 2019 11:39 |
Phy posted:(Although in the later IDW comics, there was a diagnosed psychiatric disorder among Autobots called Primus Apotheosis, wherein the sufferer is driven to paint themselves red and blue with truck windows for a chest, clamp a faceplate over their mouth, and in the worse cases, sacrifice their life at the earliest opportunity for even the most remotely noble cause.) That's loving hilarious. What's the equivalent in Marvel comics? Dying your hair red and choosing a fire/bird motif?
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# ? Aug 29, 2019 19:54 |
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ConfusedUs posted:That's loving hilarious. In any universe but 616 it is to be called Spiderman
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# ? Aug 29, 2019 19:58 |