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Lemniscate Blue posted:Up until now, non-citizen US servicemembers and their families living overseas have automatically counted as "residing in the US" when their children were born (like all servicemembers overseas), conferring citizenship. Lemniscate Blue posted:Servicemembers who are citizens confer citizenship on to their children no matter whether they are counted as "residing in the US" or not. Unfortunately, the "Children of newly naturalized citizens born outside the United States and residing permanently in the United States" law above does not have that same language in the law itself - it was supplied by an agency interpretation that the agency has now taken back.
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Okay, so the loophole for this is that a lovestruck grunt or Noble will just sneak their girlfriend on base when she goes into labor, endangering both of them needlessly, simply so the child will be born on sovereign US soil and thus have birthright citizenship. Cool. 
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Still kinda in awe that some service people cant be president. Figured there woukd be an exception for them
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I'm just imagining the fun when someone gets reassigned back to the states and can't take their kid because they don't have citizenship. Imagine the paperwork.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Okay, so the loophole for this is that a lovestruck grunt or Noble will just sneak their girlfriend on base when she goes into labor, endangering both of them needlessly, simply so the child will be born on sovereign US soil and thus have birthright citizenship. Cool. There's no such thing as overseas bases are sovereign US soil (?) for geographical birthright citizenship. Unless 
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Chances of someone having pissed off their command enough they would mess with the paperwork to make them fight a human trafficking charge? Is it possible to get someone on the flight with the paperwork that out of order? Edit: thought this was ce. Im the idiot Stravag fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Aug 30, 2019 |
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joat mon posted:There's no such thing as overseas bases are sovereign US soil (?) for geographical birthright citizenship. Not many people know that only US consulates and embassies are sovereign US soil. Hell, I remember overhearing some rear end in a top hat *years* ago who was spouting off at the mouth about "how all a woman has to do to make their kid a US citizen is crawl into any US military vehicle and give birth." So yeah, that's .
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Liquid Communism posted:I'm just imagining the fun when someone gets reassigned back to the states and can't take their kid because they don't have citizenship. Imagine the paperwork. I'm sure they'll be all white.
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Liquid Communism posted:I'm just imagining the fun when someone gets reassigned back to the states and can't take their kid because they don't have citizenship. Imagine the paperwork. Pre-deployment, not taking care of your family readiness plan is something the chain of command will murder you for. Coming home? Together, alone, in a plane, or in a box, we got the work out of you so gently caress your benefits.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:only US consulates and embassies are sovereign US soil. Not even them. They have some sovereign-like immunities (Articles 21-25), but they are not US sovereign soil/territory. Babies born in US Embassy bathrooms do not get geographic birthright citizenship.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1167493371973255170 What's OPSEC?
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Aug 30, 2019 21:40
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No one looks cool holding a cigar. People only ever look cool if they're chomping on it while shooting a machine gun.
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Aug 30, 2019 21:53
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Is that a cell phone picture?
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Memento posted:Is that a cell phone picture? It is, its very likely it was a slide of a Intel brief, and some fucker took a photo of a possibly classified intel brief to tweet.
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Memento posted:Is that a cell phone picture? He tweeted it from his iPhone.
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Further down in that thread someone points out that he’s holding the same cigar as well. How the gently caress is he continually this stupid
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Operating environment actively rewards it. We're living in the prequel to some sort of bizzaro world war two with the same teams, but they've switched sides.
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I didn’t really want to say it, but you could glean that data from known satellite orbits/positions referenced against the local time of day to get a reasonable guess. If you knew the height of the tower, you could work the trigonometry to get an exact angle that would probably point at a single satellite when combined with the other data.
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That's a whole lot of intelligence given away like it was nothing for a quick twitter dig. Holy moly.
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Aug 30, 2019 22:47
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He got tired of directly telling Russian agents and decided to just let the free market decide.
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Now they know the satellite orbit, resolution of at least one sensor, and exactly which one to track. And if they know this one, they could potentially just keep looking up at random satellites and find more like it. You could even outsource it to your civilian population, and have a dedicated crew of turbo-nerds looking for more like it (similar to the people that already track space junk here). Oh, and everyone has that info now, not just Iran. They won’t hold on to that, it does them literally no harm to spread that info around as much as possible. quote:You imbecile. You loving moron.
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So how worthless is that satellite now?
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Icon Of Sin posted:I didn’t really want to say it, but you could glean that data from known satellite orbits/positions referenced against the local time of day to get a reasonable guess. If you knew the height of the tower, you could work the trigonometry to get an exact angle that would probably point at a single satellite when combined with the other data. Exactly (part of) the problem.
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FrozenVent posted:So how worthless is that satellite now? As an uneducated civilian it wont make it worthless because we have fuel in our sats to reposition them into different orbits but they can only do that so much. So inorder to shift the orbit to keep that sat safe we would have to degrade our capacity to reposition in the future and then do it some more to shift a different sat to keep watch on that orbit with a different timing. Its just a dumb way to grab your nuts and say whos the loving pope now. Edit: there were plans for the shuttles to be able to refuel them but no idea if they ever did any of that. Also there are some plans to refuel satellites announced over the last 5 years or so but i havent looked into them Stravag fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Aug 30, 2019 |
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FrozenVent posted:So how worthless is that satellite now? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokhran-II#Preparations_for_the_test
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FrozenVent posted:So how worthless is that satellite now? It was a 2011 launch so the better question is how worthless are all of our satellites now? I mean unless they sent a drone over to get better-than-satellite imagery at the same time this sat just happened to be overhead so they could bluff about our capabilities but lol if you believe anyone in this administration is capable of playing 2-D checkers
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Yea, most of what satellites have on board is for station keeping, not adjusting to a new orbit. That holds true for almost every satellite, even the geostationary ones; there’s enough gravity fuckery from the sun, moon, and other planets to throw them off just enough to make their data suspect, and there’s also the slight pressure from the sunlight itself against the satellite (along with the solar wind). We compensate for all of that by putting thrusters on the satellites that should keep them in the right place until their service life ends (and maybe beyond, if the sensors are still worth anything). My graduate certificate was officially in GIS, but I did almost all the remote sensing classes my school offered. Active (radar, sonar) and passive (reflected light only, and magnetometry) remote sensing were my specialties. We mainly used it to take data about elevation and vegetation, but a slight tweak to the data analysis we were using could probably tell you mineral composition, give you thermal data over time, etc. They started offering a post-graduate cert in geospatial intel after I left, so I guess they figured out how to handle it without going into classified territory 
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I was going off of the wiki page for the kh-11 which said its been reported they have hydrazine onboard for changing orbits
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The man is so loving stupid, it causes me legitimate physical anguish.
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Stravag posted:I was going off of the wiki page for the kh-11 which said its been reported they have hydrazine onboard for changing orbits Yeah, it doesn't have enough thrust for major orbital changes.
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I thought most of the spy satellites were already tracked by amateur astronomers? Here's a thread where they figure out it was probably USA 224 https://twitter.com/Marco_Langbroek/status/1167549731704332288?s=20
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They know where A satellite might be. They don't always know WHAT the satellite does. Confirming it is just dumb.
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I was guessing early afternoon on the shadow angle and north arrow, turns out I wasn’t the only one
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Oh my sweet holy gently caress, who’s ready for some irony poisoning?Icon Of Sin posted:Right here
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the Latin means “the devil you know”
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CommieGIR posted:Yeah, it doesn't have enough thrust for major orbital changes. And even *minor* orbital changes are a phenomenally big deal.
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CommieGIR posted:Yeah, it doesn't have enough thrust for major orbital changes. Gotcha. I misunderstood the scale they meant then for repositioning
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Knowing the orbit isn't that big of a deal since it's sort of hard to hide, but giving away our sensor capabilities is really monumentally stupid.
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