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US Army has a small (now declassified, although its missions aren't obviously) autonomous space shuttle that they could probably use to try and reorbit a bunch of them, but I'm not sure it won't just draw attention to itself and to whatever changes they made.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:US Army has a small (now declassified, although its missions aren't obviously) autonomous space shuttle that they could probably use to try and reorbit a bunch of them, but I'm not sure it won't just draw attention to itself and to whatever changes they made. The X-37 is most assuredly not an Army asset. The army is more of a space customer, than operator.
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Aug 31, 2019 01:07
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:The X-37 is most assuredly not an Army asset. The army is more of a space customer, than operator. That and its a USAF Asset. At least the B, the A is NASAs.
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Aug 31, 2019 01:11
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That thing also had enough delta-v to go to the loving moon and back, which makes it one of the most powerful spacecraft since the Saturn V roared off the pad.
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Aug 31, 2019 01:22
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Icon Of Sin posted:That thing also had enough delta-v to go to the loving moon and back, which makes it one of the most powerful spacecraft since the Saturn V roared off the pad. What movie is this?
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Aug 31, 2019 01:32
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:The X-37 is most assuredly not an Army asset. The army is more of a space customer, than operator. I could swear it was the Army, not sure why.
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Aug 31, 2019 01:43
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Icon Of Sin posted:That thing also had enough delta-v to go to the loving moon and back, which makes it one of the most powerful spacecraft since the Saturn V roared off the pad. That’s not exactly how it works. It is launched by conventional launchers, none even approaching the Saturn V. It has a tremendous Delta-V budget because it’s got large fuel reserves and is relatively lightweight.
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Aug 31, 2019 02:13
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:That’s not exactly how it works. It is launched by conventional launchers, none even approaching the Saturn V. It has a tremendous Delta-V budget because it’s got large fuel reserves and is relatively lightweight. Yeah, it's quite small.  
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Aug 31, 2019 02:20
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What the gently caress is that thing for?
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Aug 31, 2019 02:24
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FrozenVent posted:What the gently caress is that thing for? dicking around in space, presumably it goes and snoops around satellites or something
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Aug 31, 2019 02:25
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FrozenVent posted:What the gently caress is that thing for? Nobody who isn’t in the program knows for sure. And they’re not talking. It’s some interesting tech.
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Aug 31, 2019 02:26
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the story of it being a testbed for spy sat sensors and thrusters and stuff because it can stay up for years at a time and return safely to earth seems plausible, getting stuff back from space is expensive but worthwhile because you can really pick it apart like you can't with a satellite that can't come back but it definitely isn't using all that fuel just for endurance/exposure tests either
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Aug 31, 2019 02:32
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:That’s not exactly how it works. It is launched by conventional launchers, none even approaching the Saturn V. It has a tremendous Delta-V budget because it’s got large fuel reserves and is relatively lightweight. Yea I guess “powerful” isn’t quite the right word for it, but that’s still an insane amount of delta-v on board.
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Aug 31, 2019 02:33
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FrozenVent posted:What the gently caress is that thing for? Testing spy satellite equipment so that 45 can brag on Twitter.
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Aug 31, 2019 02:35
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I remember being ordered not to read wikileaks or the snowden dump stuff, does that apply in this instance? Keyhole discussions in the smoke pit like it ain't no thang?
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Aug 31, 2019 02:43
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I think “released by POTUS (no matter how loving dumb it was)” makes it declassified, but I really hope I’m wrong about that.
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I think it's kinda like when we dropped Fat Man in that it's a wee bit hard to put the genie back in the bottle.
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EBB posted:I think it's kinda like when we dropped Fat Man in that it's a wee bit hard to put the genie back in the bottle. how appropriate
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Aug 31, 2019 02:48
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Friends. Soldiers. Officers. Please. This is DoD classification we're talking about. You're expecting it to make sense? You're expecting its enforcement to make sense?
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Icon Of Sin posted:I think “released by POTUS (no matter how loving dumb it was)” makes it declassified, but I really hope I’m wrong about that. "It's not illegal if the president does it."
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Aug 31, 2019 02:54
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That was the justification of why it was ok for him to give 5i Intel to putin right?
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FrozenVent posted:What the gently caress is that thing for? When asking about what the X-37B does, the answer should be framed in the scope of "what *can't* it do (either because of payload restriction or international treaty/law governing space weapons) and what *shouldn't* it do." The Soviets were poo poo scared of the Space Shuttle because they couldn't conceive of any other use for it other than a manned orbital nuclear launch platform. A manned and recoverable FOBS system - maybe even one that could be reloaded in orbit. It'd be a horrendous waste of resources to do something so dangerous, but the X-37 could deploy an RV from orbit with no launch indication and just obliterate a target with little to no warning. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Aug 31, 2019 |
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Stravag posted:That was the justification of why it was ok for him to give 5i Intel to putin right? "I am literally a Russian asset and you can't do poo poo."
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Aug 31, 2019 03:07
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Guest2553 posted:I remember being ordered not to read wikileaks or the snowden dump stuff, does that apply in this instance? Keyhole discussions in the smoke pit like it ain't no thang? Wikileaks is public. If a Google search can find it, read it.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:When asking about what the X-37B does, the answer should be framed in the scope of "what *can't* it do (either because of payload restriction or international treaty/law governing space weapons) and what *shouldn't* it do." Hobbyists at one point tracked it very near the orbit of a Chinese intel sat iirc
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Aug 31, 2019 03:11
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chitoryu12 posted:Wikileaks is public. If a Google search can find it, read it. No doubt...it wasn't a very good order, but it was an order all the same.
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Guest2553 posted:No doubt...it wasn't a very good order, but it was an order all the same. If the thread hadn't already had the best possible title...
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Imagine being able to move your dark space shuttle in front of the aperature of a space camera on the single orbit it would be observing whatever youre trying to hide
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Aug 31, 2019 03:18
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Icon Of Sin posted:I think “released by POTUS (no matter how loving dumb it was)” makes it declassified, but I really hope I’m wrong about that. Classification power derives from the office of the president. This is the one case in which “if the president did it, that means that it is not illegal” is true.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:When asking about what the X-37B does, the answer should be framed in the scope of "what *can't* it do (either because of payload restriction or international treaty/law governing space weapons) and what *shouldn't* it do." Woops, a fourteen foot tungsten carbide rod seems to have impacted your base at 13 miles per second. Where could that have come from...
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Memento posted:Woops, a fourteen foot tungsten carbide rod seems to have impacted your base at 13 miles per second. “Can’t be us because we’re smart enough to use metallic tungsten.” 
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Guest2553 posted:I remember being ordered not to read wikileaks or the snowden dump stuff, does that apply in this instance? Keyhole discussions in the smoke pit like it ain't no thang? This lawyer thinks so: https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1167531824857436172?s=20
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drgitlin posted:This lawyer thinks so: https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1167531824857436172?s=20 See?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Friends. Soldiers. Officers. Please. This is DoD classification we're talking about. You're expecting it to make sense? You're expecting its enforcement to make sense? I have quite literally sat in a classified briefing where they took great care to confiscate everybody's cell phone, but still had to confiscate handwritten notes at the end because we are required to have paper and pencil as part of the uniform. This was years before I ever saw The Wire or the criminal conspiracy scene. I even had a moment where I turned to one of my brother LTs who pulled out his notepad to ask him why he was taking notes when they just yanked our phones.
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EBB posted:I have quite literally sat in a classified briefing where they took great care to confiscate everybody's cell phone, but still had to confiscate handwritten notes at the end because we are required to have paper and pencil as part of the uniform. This was years before I ever saw The Wire or the criminal conspiracy scene. I even had a moment where I turned to one of my brother LTs who pulled out his notepad to ask him why he was taking notes when they just yanked our phones. 
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Memento posted:Woops, a fourteen foot tungsten carbide rod seems to have impacted your base at 13 miles per second. Yeah, inanimate carbon rod is cool but have you maybe considered using a nuke
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Smiling Jack posted:Yeah, inanimate carbon rod is cool but have you maybe considered using a nuke We weren't talking about getting rid of hurricanes?!
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Hollow Talk posted:We weren't talking about getting rid of hurricanes?!
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Stravag posted:That was the justification of why it was ok for him to give 5i Intel to putin right? well it's probably not too important if it's limited to Iceland, Ireland, Italy, India, and Indonesia
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EBB posted:I have quite literally sat in a classified briefing where they took great care to confiscate everybody's cell phone, but still had to confiscate handwritten notes at the end because we are required to have paper and pencil as part of the uniform. This was years before I ever saw The Wire or the criminal conspiracy scene. I even had a moment where I turned to one of my brother LTs who pulled out his notepad to ask him why he was taking notes when they just yanked our phones. Pencil and paper as part of the uniform, overriding security concerns, makes me chuckle
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