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JCVD is the closest thing to a real life Street Fighter character. Bloodsport and Lionheart are basically Street Fighter movies, and then he starred in the Street Fighter movie. He's also a Tekken character because he killed a guy in a mascot costume.
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X-Ray Pecs posted:in the hotel fight scene when they accidentally break into the room where a couple are having sex, the woman is loving the man from behind. It’s such a campy, fun movie. How....how have I never noticed this? I've seen Commando like half a dozen times!
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Sep 5, 2019 17:37
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:How....how have I never noticed this? I've seen Commando like half a dozen times! It's a blink-and-you'll-miss-it gag. As soon as they break through the wall, you see a woman with massive fake breasts pegging a dude on a bed, they jump out of fear, and then the scene progresses as if the couple were never there. Basebf555 posted:The jungle setting really makes First Blood II, I watched the trilogy recently and I was really missing that in Part III. The desert just wasn't as eye-catching and had me bored during the non-action scenes. It's a great setting. I just wish there was a more sinister force besides the people giving commands over radio signals. Halloween Jack posted:JCVD is the closest thing to a real life Street Fighter character. Bloodsport and Lionheart are basically Street Fighter movies, and then he starred in the Street Fighter movie. He's also a Tekken character because he killed a guy in a mascot costume. Absolutely. Lionheart is the best of these, because you get distinctive fighting styles and costumes. Also, the hype-man character, Joshua, is better than Ray Jackson. Bolo Yueng is arguably more sinister than Moustafa, even though the Moustafa fight is waaaaay better.
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Sep 5, 2019 17:47
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Missing in Action 2 has a good sinister Vietnamese enemy in the jungle
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Sep 5, 2019 17:50
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Honestly I think the final fight is the weakest one. Moustafa's gimmick is that he's so strong he can make your punches weaker by playing hot hands with you. It is still better than the Bolo Yeung fight, but I think the parking garage fight is the best one in Lionheart.
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Sep 5, 2019 17:52
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Halloween Jack posted:Honestly I think the final fight is the weakest one. Moustafa's gimmick is that he's so strong he can make your punches weaker by playing hot hands with you. It is still better than the Bolo Yeung fight, but I think the parking garage fight is the best one in Lionheart. The parking garage fight is great, but Lionheart's final battle has one of the most effective slow claps I've seen in years.
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Doesn't Rambo 2 have that awesome but where he's hiding in, like, a vertical mudwall and then pops out to kill a dude?
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Sep 5, 2019 18:31
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Franchescanado posted:The parking garage fight is great, but Lionheart's final battle has one of the most effective slow claps I've seen in years.
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Sep 5, 2019 19:07
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Narzack posted:Doesn't Rambo 2 have that awesome but where he's hiding in, like, a vertical mudwall and then pops out to kill a dude? The Rock also does that with a sand waterfall in the scorpion king 
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Sep 5, 2019 19:09
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Halloween Jack posted:Just rewatched it and I've changed my mind. I love how he turns the whole fight around because he remembers that Attila's thing is punching super good, and his thing is kicking super good, and he's wearing hiking boots, so he should kick. Then his evil girlfriend gets so mad at him that her breasts won't stop heaving. Plus the scene being punctuated by Joshua saying "Don't you know he's gonna kill yo rear end?!" on loop. It's just all types of awesome hype. "Wrong... bet!"
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Sep 5, 2019 19:11
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Narzack posted:Doesn't Rambo 2 have that awesome but where he's hiding in, like, a vertical mudwall and then pops out to kill a dude? Yes, his eyes open first and then he gets the guy. It's a very cool visual.
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Franchescanado posted:It's a blink-and-you'll-miss-it gag. As soon as they break through the wall, you see a woman with massive fake breasts pegging a dude on a bed, they jump out of fear, and then the scene progresses as if the couple were never there. That scene also rules because it’s the perfect distillation of how smart-dumb the screenplay is. Bill Duke: gently caress you, rear end in a top hat! (PUNCH) Arnold: gently caress YOU, rear end in a top hat! (BIGGER PUNCH)
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Sep 5, 2019 20:40
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Splint Chesthair posted:That scene also rules because it’s the perfect distillation of how smart-dumb the screenplay is. My favorite is Rae Dawn Chong, about 15 feet away from Arnold when he drops DPK, asks “what happened to Sully?” She saw what happened, she’s just setting up the punchline. Commando rules.
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Sep 5, 2019 20:51
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Yes, his eyes open first and then he gets the guy. It's a very cool visual. That moment has stuck in my mind since I was a little kid and caught that scene(terrifying at the time) on TV
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Sep 5, 2019 21:48
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Splint Chesthair posted:That scene also rules because it’s the perfect distillation of how smart-dumb the screenplay is. They nailed Internet Arguments a decade early. Narzack posted:That moment has stuck in my mind since I was a little kid and caught that scene(terrifying at the time) on TV Same here bud.
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Sep 5, 2019 21:54
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Franchescanado posted:It's a blink-and-you'll-miss-it gag. As soon as they break through the wall, you see a woman with massive fake breasts pegging a dude on a bed, they jump out of fear, and then the scene progresses as if the couple were never there.  Commando is the gift that keeps on giving.
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Sep 5, 2019 22:31
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Sep 6, 2019 00:27
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One of the things I like about classic Arnie movies, is that he's always supposed to play a REAL AMERICAN HERO and, like, no one ever comments on the fact that he's a walking muscle mutant with this thick accent. Even better in stuff like True Lies or Jingle All the Way, where he's this nebbish family man, but still hilariously muscled and with his accent
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Sep 6, 2019 00:29
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X-Ray Pecs posted:Commando is one of my go-to pick-me-up movies, it’s outrageously stupid but also a perfect showcase of why Arnold was so good in his prime. He was a massive slab of beef with good comedy chops, with the entire movie set up to show all that off. My personal favorite bit is something SMG once pointed out, in the hotel fight scene when they accidentally break into the room where a couple are having sex, the woman is loving the man from behind. It’s such a campy, fun movie. The best gag in Commando is when Matrix is wandering round yelling 'Jenny' and we see some soldier just smoking a cigar, waiting his turn. It confirms that, yeah, these dudes do just sit around waiting to be shot.
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Narzack posted:One of the things I like about classic Arnie movies, is that he's always supposed to play a REAL AMERICAN HERO and, like, no one ever comments on the fact that he's a walking muscle mutant with this thick accent. Even better in stuff like True Lies or Jingle All the Way, where he's this nebbish family man, but still hilariously muscled and with his accent Even Total Recall kind of does this. The character intro for him plays it like he's this regular joe construction worker who feels unsatisfied with his life, despite the fact that he looks like a 1990 Arnold Schwarzenegger and is married to a 1990 Sharon Stone. It's always amazing. Sometimes JCVD gets the justification of being cajun or a French immigrant to the US or something, but Arnold is just presented as is most of the time.
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Sep 6, 2019 01:43
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At least his nickname was "Dutch" in Predator
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Even if everything else about Commando was bad the part in the mall where a bunch of cops pile on top of Arnold but then he stands up and they are all blown away would still make it one of the single greatest movies ever filmed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcSXHU0zktM
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I will always watch Jingle all the way when it gets shown on tv around christmas time. such an underated arnold movie.
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Neo Rasa posted:Even if everything else about Commando was bad the part in the mall where a bunch of cops pile on top of Arnold but then he stands up and they are all blown away would still make it one of the single greatest movies ever filmed. Him shaking the phonebooth is pretty good, too. Slaapaav posted:I will always watch Jingle all the way when it gets shown on tv around christmas time. such an underated arnold movie. Yeah, I think it's actually pretty funny. "Liz, these COOKIES."
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One of my favorite running gags of 80s-90s cinema is how many stock American White Guy names Arnold was given. He’s been John, Doug, Ben, Harry, Alex, Howard and Adam. In Raw Deal his name is MARK for gently caress’s sake.
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Slaapaav posted:I will always watch Jingle all the way when it gets shown on tv around christmas time. such an underated arnold movie. Jingle all the Way is crassly consumerist, but it’s a movie that sincerely wants audiences to feel worried that Arnold Schwarzenegger’s wife is going to cheat on him with the local Loathario, Phil Hartman. It’s good as hell.
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Snowman_McK posted:The best gag in Commando is when Matrix is wandering round yelling 'Jenny' and we see some soldier just smoking a cigar, waiting his turn. It confirms that, yeah, these dudes do just sit around waiting to be shot. Pay attention to the extras getting killed in the big fight at the end. They didn't have enough, so each of them did more than one "getting blowed up" scene. You'll be able to award style points and pick favorites. Great loving movie.
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Is Commando on one of the major streaming services right now? I haven't seen it in probably 15 years.
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brocked posted:At least his nickname was "Dutch" in Predator Matrix: You know, when I was a boy and rock and roll came to East Germany, the Communists said it was subversive... (thinks for a moment) Maybe they were right? They actually thought of everything in Commando. e: My favorite bit of Commando stupidity/genius is when they know the fuel receipt was for a sea plane because it's  AMPHIBIAN FUEL.
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Sep 6, 2019 20:40
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Commando and Police Story came out at about the same time and both had big mall galleria set pieces, and god I love both of them. Also both have crazy downhill chase scenes. Hmmm. Commando has better jokes though, ‘I have to go to my shed to get my rifle’, ‘my friend is dead tired. ‘I lied/ let him go’. Also better continuity errors, it’s like they deliberately screwed up details and repeated killing the same extras just to make viewing more fun. Bloodsport is very, very special though, despite the overuse risks of slow motion closeups of fake hits; it contains the only known footage shot inside Kowloon walled city; that isn’t a set.
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Remulak posted:Bloodsport is very, very special though, despite the overuse risks of slow motion closeups of fake hits; it contains the only known footage shot inside Kowloon walled city; that isn’t a set. There’s also Long Arm of the Law, the 1984 Johnny Mak film. Good movie I’d recommend checking it out, especially if you’re interested in that sort of stuff the Kowloon Walled City bits are great.
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Remulak posted:Bloodsport is very, very special though, despite the overuse risks of slow motion closeups of fake hits; it contains the only known footage shot inside Kowloon walled city; that isn’t a set. there is also this jcvd acting masterclass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXIe6pouJTc&t=323s also the 80s synth soundtrack.
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Remulak posted:Bloodsport is very, very special though, despite the overuse risks of slow motion closeups of fake hits; it contains the only known footage shot inside Kowloon walled city; that isn’t a set. That movie started my interest in Kowloon Walled City, which has always fascinated me. I'll always remember the line "We're about to cross an invisible line from Hong Kong into mainland China. From here on out, you have to protect your nuts." My dad and I loved that movie, and we'd often quote it back in Miami in the '90s, substituting in different local neighborhoods. Slaapaav posted:also the 80s synth soundtrack. "Fight to Survive" is actually by Stan Bush, of "(You've Got) The Touch" and "Dare" fame -- from the legendary, cocaine-fueled soundtrack of Transformers: The Movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ4XHW5Q4gU Big Bad Voodoo Lou fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Sep 8, 2019 |
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the entire soundtrack from bloodsport didnt get released until late 2007 which is pretty crazy to think about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7QWBbtjqyg Slaapaav fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Sep 8, 2019 |
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Sep 8, 2019 07:46
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:That movie started my interest in Kowloon Walled City, which has always fascinated me. I'll always remember the line "We're about to cross an invisible line from Hong Kong into mainland China. From here on out, you have to protect your nuts." My dad and I loved that movie, and we'd often quote it back in Miami in the '90s, substituting in different local neighborhoods. You and your dad freaken rule. I think KickBoxer has a really good soundtrack, too. I believe my two favorite Van Damme movies are KickBoxer and Bloodsport. Maybe Timecop as number three, since I don't really consider Universal Soldier as a Van Damme movie.
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Remulak posted:
There have been more movies shot in the Walled City, Jackie Chan's Crime Story was shot just before its demolition and gets the destruction started early with a lot of explosions. Another HK movie shot there was Long Arm Of The Law in 1984. Crime Story is a bit of an oddball for Jackie Chan, it's got both serious stuff and his trademark martial arts dialed down just a little bit to not be too much out of synch with the rest. It's also got one of the most elaborate 'cops raid the gangster hideout' scenes I've ever seen with a detailed look in how you would breach a wall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn90qnEh2mQ&t=2790s The gangster going 'Cops ! Hide the money !' when there are mountains of cash everywhere is the best part.
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Narzack posted:You and your dad freaken rule. I think KickBoxer has a really good soundtrack, too. I believe my two favorite Van Damme movies are KickBoxer and Bloodsport. Maybe Timecop as number three, since I don't really consider Universal Soldier as a Van Damme movie. I can't believe I've never seen Kickboxer or Cyborg. But Kickboxer also has a Stan Bush song in it! My favorite Van Damme movies are Hard Target and Bloodsport, for sure. I was also blown away by how good Universal Soldier: Day of Reckoning was, but that's hardly a Van Damme movie. (I still need to see the other good Universal Soldier that came out before Day of Reckoning.) Big Bad Voodoo Lou fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Sep 8, 2019 |
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CeeJee posted:Crime Story is a bit of an oddball for Jackie Chan, it's got both serious stuff and his trademark martial arts dialed down just a little bit to not be too much out of synch with the rest. It's also got one of the most elaborate 'cops raid the gangster hideout' scenes I've ever seen with a detailed look in how you would breach a wall.
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I started watching Assassination Games last night (yes, I'm old now to the point of sometimes watching movies in two sittings) and it is pretty enjoyable. Scott Adkins and Jean-Claude van Damme have nice chemistry and it was an unexpected treat to see Kevin Chapman (Fusco in Person of Interest) pop up. MrBling fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Sep 9, 2019 |
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I'm glad Adkins has been doing projects with better production values recently because some of that stuff is just too cheap looking for me to fully enjoy it. Assassination Games fell into that category. Accident Man and The Debt Collector were a definite step up for him.
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