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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Song of Freedom is a 12th level ability. The two dwarf bards whose names I forgot are pretty darn powerful in their own right. Elan got to it a chapter ago while loading up on some obscure prestige class too
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Song of Freedom is a 12th level ability. The two dwarf bards whose names I forgot are pretty darn powerful in their own right. Yeah but there's two of them singing that so it's more likely they're level six
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Sep 6, 2019 15:50
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goblin week posted:Yeah but there's two of them singing that so it's more likely they're level six No? That's not how it works?
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Sep 6, 2019 16:04
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ikanreed posted:No? That's not how it works? It should be. You should be able to strap 20 level 1 Wizards together into a weapon of mass destruction.
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Sep 6, 2019 16:26
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I'll admit I'm a poo poo dm who forgets half the rules and makes poo poo up on the fly (but my players don't seem to mind) but I think only one needs the skill and the other can just be doing whatever that thing is where you add a small bonus to help
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Sep 6, 2019 16:33
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oobey posted:It should be. You should be able to strap 20 level 1 Wizards together into a weapon of mass destruction. This has nothing on the peasant railgun.
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Sep 6, 2019 16:35
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:This has nothing on the peasant railgun. i'm gonna need details on this one.
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Sep 6, 2019 16:48
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Llab posted:i'm gonna need details on this one. Have a thousand peasants stand in a line. Tell all of them except the one at the front to ready an action to pass an object to the one in front of them, and the one at the front to ready an action to throw it. then, you hand something to the one in the back, and it instantly goes to the one at the front who throws it. Theoretically, since the object just moved a mile in one round, it gets thrown at some absurd speed. In actuality, it doesn't work since D&D has no concept of velocity, so it just does what would have happened if the front peasant just threw it normally.
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Sep 6, 2019 16:55
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Basically, you set up a situation where the game rules do not work anymore, because they're only meant to simulate small-scale combat in a way that's hopefully manageable without a computer and hopefully fun. And then you have to insist on following game rules instead of realistic physics to obtain an unrealistic effect, and then realistic physics instead of game rules to handle the consequence of the effect. At least the blind kobold trick followed the rules entirely.
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Sep 6, 2019 17:18
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If the players allow/enjoy it, rules are suggestions
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Sep 6, 2019 17:22
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World Famous W posted:I'll admit I'm a poo poo dm who forgets half the rules and makes poo poo up on the fly (but my players don't seem to mind) but I think only one needs the skill and the other can just be doing whatever that thing is where you add a small bonus to help I guess yeah. And we've seen that durkon's family is pretty capable as a whole.
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Sep 6, 2019 17:24
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World Famous W posted:I'll admit I'm a poo poo dm who forgets half the rules and makes poo poo up on the fly (but my players don't seem to mind) but I think only one needs the skill and the other can just be doing whatever that thing is where you add a small bonus to help They do mention taking turns breaking dominations, I assumed that meant they could both yell Freedom independently.
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Sep 6, 2019 17:47
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World Famous W posted:If the players allow/enjoy it, rules are suggestions If ignoring the rules is more fun than playing by them, the rules suck.
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Sep 6, 2019 17:52
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AnoHito posted:Have a thousand peasants stand in a line. Tell all of them except the one at the front to ready an action to pass an object to the one in front of them, and the one at the front to ready an action to throw it. then, you hand something to the one in the back, and it instantly goes to the one at the front who throws it. I was extremely hoping for a magical railgun that used peasants as ammunition
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Sep 6, 2019 17:54
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What's the blind kobold trick,?
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Sep 6, 2019 17:58
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Llab posted:I was extremely hoping for a magical railgun that used peasants as ammunition I mean, there's no reason another peasant couldn't be the object.
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Sep 6, 2019 18:02
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Re: the levels of Durkon's family; Is dwarven-land a high level area (and thus, powerful NPC), or OOTS-verse operates under level-scaling system?
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Sep 6, 2019 18:12
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I've been assuming that it's just the case that Durkon's mum is an important and influential person in Dwarven society, and has an extended family so large that it contains a large number of high-level heroes.
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Sep 6, 2019 18:17
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Whybird posted:I've been assuming that it's just the case that Durkon's mum is an important and influential person in Dwarven society, and has an extended family so large that it contains a large number of high-level heroes. I just assumed their second lease on life made them all ambitious and fast leveling
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Sep 6, 2019 18:26
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AnoHito posted:Have a thousand peasants stand in a line. Tell all of them except the one at the front to ready an action to pass an object to the one in front of them, and the one at the front to ready an action to throw it. then, you hand something to the one in the back, and it instantly goes to the one at the front who throws it. It does make for a really good alternative to a telegraph!
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Sep 6, 2019 18:27
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If combined with high-density electronic storage devices, the bandwith would be insane. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149 could be used as a template for for IP over Readied Peasant
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Sep 6, 2019 19:29
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...or they could just transmit data with the literal magic that exists. I feel like a 1 or 2 wizards is probably a bit more efficient than a largish army of peasants.
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Sep 6, 2019 19:39
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AnoHito posted:...or they could just transmit data with the literal magic that exists. I feel like a 1 or 2 wizards is probably a bit more efficient than a largish army of peasants. Peasant wages are so low that it's more cost-effective to do this than to use magic.
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Sep 6, 2019 19:44
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Roland Jones posted:Peasant wages are so low that it's more cost-effective to do this than to use magic. Well there's a dystopian nightmare. 12 hour shifts standing an arms length from 2 other guys, one hand reaching toward the guy on your left, on hand reaching toward the guy on your right, constantly ready to pass a message along. Generations of your family spending their lives on the telegraph line.
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Sep 6, 2019 19:53
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Facebook Aunt posted:Well there's a dystopian nightmare. 12 hour shifts standing an arms length from 2 other guys, one hand reaching toward the guy on your left, on hand reaching toward the guy on your right, constantly ready to pass a message along. Generations of your family spending their lives on the telegraph line. Beats being a soldier or miner, anyways.
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Sep 6, 2019 19:56
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Facebook Aunt posted:Well there's a dystopian nightmare. 12 hour shifts standing an arms length from 2 other guys, one hand reaching toward the guy on your left, on hand reaching toward the guy on your right, constantly ready to pass a message along. Generations of your family spending their lives on the telegraph line. Just animate some skeletons to do it instead.
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Sep 6, 2019 19:58
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There's an rpg.net thread where someone maps out a way to defeat Elminster with a bowl of psionic hummus
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Sep 6, 2019 20:15
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sebmojo posted:There's an rpg.net thread where someone maps out a way to defeat Elminster with a bowl of psionic hummus Hey you read my thread! :p (Probably not my thread actually, BUT I DID have a thread on the Necrosis persistent world forums where I and a DM had a duel between a level 20 wizard and Elminster since I argued that any sufficiently optimized (but not cheesy) Mage could beat Elminster; the other guy who would DM it disagreed this was the case and it very quickly broke down into rules lawyering bullshit.)
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Raenir Salazar posted:Hey you read my thread! :p As a balder's gate player as far as I can tell Elminster is just a guy who pops in, says a few cryptic things, and then leaves. Doesn't seem that hard to beat. I love the BG had all those forgotten realms celebrity shout outs, that just leave you going "what the gently caress was that about" if you aren't familiar with the IP. Drizzt it just some guy who needs help fighting gnolls.
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It's a good thread, not least for the insane op meltdown
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Facebook Aunt posted:As a balder's gate player as far as I can tell Elminster is just a guy who pops in, says a few cryptic things, and then leaves. Doesn't seem that hard to beat. Better than all the fan service in never winter nights. I still have no idea who was from any source books
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If no one else is going to talk about the Skeleton Computer, then I will. In certain editions, powerful enough necromancers can create a magic item that would let them create an effectively infinite number of skeletons (as long as they or a minion/lackey/intern refresh the control spell every couple of days.) These skeletons can be given basic commands, like "if the skeleton in front of you raises both arms, raise your right arm", or "if the skeleton in front of you raises either arm, raise your right arm." By doing this, they've designed two-bit logic gates, and can now create a Turing-complete arrangement of skeletons. It's basically Minecraft Redstone but with black magic.
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Sep 6, 2019 20:48
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PMush Perfect posted:It's basically Minecraft Redstone but with black magic. So it's Minecraft Redstone.
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AnoHito posted:...or they could just transmit data with the literal magic that exists. I feel like a 1 or 2 wizards is probably a bit more efficient than a largish army of peasants. What if I have 26 words to say
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Sep 6, 2019 21:24
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PMush Perfect posted:If no one else is going to talk about the Skeleton Computer, then I will. Did anyone actually do this without the DM flipping the table and leaving?
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Pope Guilty posted:What's the blind kobold trick,? I forgot the details but IIRC it was about using blind kobolds to get attacks of opportunity to get extra attacks at your enemy through the cleave feat. KBK KPK KKK Take a configuration like this. B: bad guy, K: kobold, P: player. With the kobolds wandering around, the player gets 7 extra cleave attacks on the bad guy.
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goblin week posted:It does make for a really good alternative to a telegraph! Think bigger: instant long-distance travel network.
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Sep 6, 2019 23:20
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MikeJF posted:Think bigger: instant long-distance travel network. You mean teleport?
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Who What Now posted:When's the meltdown start? It's more of an implosion of concentrated nerdsmug, reading it again, but he starts getting testy around p26.
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