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Intel&Sebastian posted:He thinks companies ruin the real-world day to day usage of their production cars just to be able to say "it set a time of X at the nurburgring" Is he talking about Camrys and Sentras here or what
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oh, so he doesn’t hate the track itself, jist that it’s become this holy standard and the trickle-down consequences thereof. got it. how did it become the standard, anyhow?
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I want these tests to happen so bad. Just a fleet of Teslas with brakes melting, wheels whomping, batteries exploding, spectacular crashes... it's going to be like the end of Blues Brothers. Just incredible carnage. abelwingnut posted:oh, so he doesn’t hate the track itself, jist that it’s become this holy standard and the trickle-down consequences thereof. got it. Well-maintained, somewhat open, and relatively close to all the big euro manufacturers, so it was easy to comparison test there, then globalism and gran turismo happened, and it became the world standard. ... Just realized how odd it is there's never been a Tesla on the ring in an official capacity.
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Is he talking about Camrys and Sentras here or what Nah just cars and companies that specifically say stuff about NBR, I think he uses it as a sort of short hand for cars that ride like poo poo just so people can pretend they're gonna take it to a track someday.
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Sep 7, 2019 00:09
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Well yeah but that's the tradeoff that consumers are consciously spending their money so as to maximize.
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Sep 7, 2019 00:12
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Failson posted:... Just realized how odd it is there's never been a Tesla on the ring in an official capacity. because they know it goes into  mode after a few minutes and then performs like a minivan
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Sep 7, 2019 00:22
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Failson posted:I want these tests to happen so bad. Just a fleet of Teslas with brakes melting, wheels whomping, batteries exploding, spectacular crashes... it's going to be like the end of Blues Brothers. There’s a couple of articles about taking the Model S to the track and it sapping 10% charge per mile when going at 100+ mph.
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Sep 7, 2019 01:01
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abelwingnut posted:why does james may hate the nürburgring? Because, for a while, a bunch of manufacturers were making Nurburgring edition cars for every day people who would never be on a track. So the fact that it could go around the ring really fast didn't really matter when it would never even see a track and was just made incredibly worse for daily driving. Stiff suspension that keeps the tires planted on the track = spine shattering ride when hitting every pothole in your undermaintained city streets. Lote posted:There’s a couple of articles about taking the Model S to the track and it sapping 10% charge per mile when going at 100+ mph. Ah, so Elon just needs to make the battery have a capacity of 161.2% excluding any power used getting on the track itself.
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Sep 7, 2019 01:10
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Just ignite the battery pack for extra thrust and eject each stage when depleted
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Sep 7, 2019 01:16
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Cojawfee posted:Because, for a while, a bunch of manufacturers were making Nurburgring edition cars for every day people who would never be on a track. So the fact that it could go around the ring really fast didn't really matter when it would never even see a track and was just made incredibly worse for daily driving. Stiff suspension that keeps the tires planted on the track = spine shattering ride when hitting every pothole in your undermaintained city streets. Just strap another battery to the back, duh
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Sep 7, 2019 01:23
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Cojawfee posted:Because, for a while, a bunch of manufacturers were making Nurburgring edition cars for every day people who would never be on a track. So the fact that it could go around the ring really fast didn't really matter when it would never even see a track and was just made incredibly worse for daily driving. Stiff suspension that keeps the tires planted on the track = spine shattering ride when hitting every pothole in your undermaintained city streets. so why hate the track when the people are the ones buying it?
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Sep 7, 2019 01:40
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Karl Sharks posted:so why hate the track when the people are the ones buying it? it’s what the track represents maaan
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Sep 7, 2019 01:43
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Karl Sharks posted:so why hate the track when the people are the ones buying it? Because James May would have to review these cars when he could be reviewing better cars.
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Sep 7, 2019 01:49
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Sep 7, 2019 02:02
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Porsche lives breathes and shits track testing gently caress lol.
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Sep 7, 2019 02:31
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Put a toy firetruck on a rail around the track like they do for greyhounds with rabbits
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Sep 7, 2019 02:36
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Karl Sharks posted:so why hate the track when the people are the ones buying it? Because he's an old white guy and he likes complaining.
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Sep 7, 2019 03:11
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bring back old gbs posted:also the car has to be able to go pretty fast for 13 minutes and not overheat. no loving way is a tesla doing that without serious specialization, like him ordering a the factory to make a one of a kind car with liquid nitrogen and extra batteries filling the back seats a model s struggled with heat on virginia international raceway, a much smaller track. granted (as far as i remember) it was a stock version, so assumingly if tesla is smart they turn off any battery controls and just have at it. even then, it's a piggish car that probably doesn't have even remotely well setup suspension, poo poo aero, undersized brakes, and lovely steering you'd expect with a novice company. **if** it manages to finish a lap it's probably destined for 8:30ish range
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Sep 7, 2019 03:15
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What's the best time a relatively stock pickup truck has made?
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Sep 7, 2019 03:31
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Saw my first wompy wheel in the wild, there was a collision front end to front-quarter-panel at an intersection near my house where the speed limit is 30 mph. The wheel and amputated suspension member of the model 3 were resting a good 5 feet from the car. The other car, a ford focus, looked like most cars look after a medium-speed crash, all four wheels still attached.
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Sep 7, 2019 03:32
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I think the money is there to do it, it's that bottomless tech money bag, Tesla is valued at around what Honda is, I think they're the #2 domestic brand behind GM by valuation but they don't waste any money on actually making cars, instead they just collect sacks and sacks of grift cash
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Sep 7, 2019 04:26
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Speleothing posted:What's the best time a relatively stock pickup truck has made? Dunno but i found this and it looks like it'd be fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swo8zcQoxgA
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Sep 7, 2019 04:52
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clearly we need to goad Musk into sitting in the car himself while the autopilot drives the lap
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Sep 7, 2019 07:37
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bring back old gbs posted:Musk thinks the nurburgring works like a go kart track and he can just buy a ticket lol I mean, kind of? When the track is open, you can in fact just buy a ticket and drive / ruin your car there. That's why you see footage of DHL delivery vans chasing old Gold cabriolets. Really looking forward to bazingas ruining their cars on the track without insurance though.
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Lord Stimperor posted:I mean, kind of? When the track is open, you can in fact just buy a ticket and drive / ruin your car there. That's why you see footage of DHL delivery vans chasing old Gold cabriolets. Oh God. His fans are going to try and prove it FOR him, aren't they?
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SweetWillyRollbar posted:Oh God. His fans are going to try and prove it FOR him, aren't they? 
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I mean, some guy already did 8:50. I don't know if it's the 20.6km lap, but it's not bad for an amateur, maybe a pro can cut a minute to it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dphw4km60m4
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being on a bike and hearing the sound of tires squealing closer and closer to you from behind, like at that pass near the end, would make me poop my pants imo
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Yeah I don't know how the car held together for the entire lap
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probably special reinforced zip ties! those are what everyone else puts cars together with right
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theres still a lot going for the low center of gravity heavy car that still can accelerate rly quick whomping wheel laffs aside theres no reason it seems it couldn't do ok if the battery pack doesn't go into safety mode but porsche knows how to like...drive cars?? and tune them?? etc?? and that's where getting the hardest fastest times is gonna come from
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orange sky posted:I mean, some guy already did 8:50. I don't know if it's the 20.6km lap, but it's not bad for an amateur, maybe a pro can cut a minute to it? Fast times are less about being able to go and accelerate fast but more being able to keep going fast through the turns. The 8 minute mark is dominated ny cars at least a full 300 Kilograms lighter than a P85D.
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because this is 2019 elon is gonna put some shlub behind the wheel of a model s, who against all the odds will kamikaze down the track and only due to pure luck somehow not have smashed into the sides or rolled it over taking a turn poorly or etc and end up accidentally crushing all the other records because thats the one of all possible worlds where the car didn't explode while doing a 1080 through the air into france
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flying shot: james bonds car is driving down the wrong direction on the highway, swerving wildly after his target interior: james bond is banging the wheel. the window wipers are going at max speed, the windshield washers are spraying nontstop, and the radio is blaring mariachi music bond: SIRI! ALEXA! GOOGLE ASSISTANT BLAST THE drat THING JUST HELP ME CHASE THAT CAR!! *a loud fart noise plays through the console as a tiny barrel emerges from the grill and fires a dart with a tiny firetruck on the end into the back of bonds target. the dash screen stops glitching as the driver side chair reclines into nap mode. the car effortlessly dodges traffic as it chases the target*
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orange sky posted:I mean, some guy already did 8:50. I don't know if it's the 20.6km lap, but it's not bad for an amateur, maybe a pro can cut a minute to it? It isn't. The public isn't allowed to drive the full track, they stop you halfway down the main straight. BTG means "bridge to gantry" and refers to the landmarks they use as timing points.
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cumshitter posted:flying shot: james bonds car is driving down the wrong direction on the highway, swerving wildly after his target lol once upon a time even microsoft was cooler than tesla https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR12YYhcEGM
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Bulgakov posted:because this is 2019 elon is
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