Drone posted:

Whoa, is this actually in the works?

I went to Star Trek: The Experience in Vegas when I was like fourteen and I won't lie, as awful tourist trappy as it was, the turbolift doors opening onto the Ent-D bridge was pretty goddamn phenomenal iirc.

Drone posted:

I went to Star Trek: The Experience in Vegas when I was like fourteen and I won't lie, as awful tourist trappy as it was, the turbolift doors opening onto the Ent-D bridge was pretty goddamn phenomenal iirc.

marktheando posted:

I have reached the second Leah Brahms episode in my TNG re-watch and I don't know if I can handle watching it again. Geordi you creep.

HorseLord posted:

They altered it slightly to make it wheelchair accessible, but I don't think they shrank it any.

To be honest the bridge was a tease. You just stood there watching the big TV over worf's back.

AlBorlantern Corps posted:

You gotta pretend the computer was going outside its parameters to scare Brahms because the computer loves Geordi, and he was not aware the program was doing this. There's some textual evidence in a previous episode to suggest he never even went back to that simulation after booby trap

HorseLord posted:

They altered it slightly to make it wheelchair accessible, but I don't think they shrank it any.

To be honest the bridge was a tease. You just stood there watching the big TV over worf's back.

HorseLord posted:

They altered it slightly to make it wheelchair accessible, but I don't think they shrank it any.

To be honest the bridge was a tease. You just stood there watching the big TV over worf's back.

AlBorlantern Corps posted:

You gotta pretend the computer was going outside its parameters to scare Brahms because the computer loves Geordi, and he was not aware the program was doing this. There's some textual evidence in a previous episode to suggest he never even went back to that simulation after booby trap

Zesty posted:

What the what. Star Trek Discovery Writer fired "quit" for throwing around the N-Bomb.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/walter-mosley-quits-star-trek-discovery-using-n-word-writers-room-1237489

Zurui posted:

I'm imagining an alternate universe where he ended up at the Conn instead of Wesley and then transferred to DS9 as an expert pilot.

Pick posted:

Astroman posted:

That's one reason I disagree with former Doctor Who Showrunner Steven Moffat's philosophy about casting POCs in historical English settings. He does it to represent people, to make the past makeup of the country look more like the demographics of the country today. A world where black people and Asians are accepted neighbors, and people are surprisingly tolerant towards homosexuals, etc in Victorian London and Medieval villages.

Isometric Bacon posted:

Watching DS9 the height of that balcony rail wigs me out. It seriously looked like an OH&S nightmare where anyone stepping backwards not paying attention would trip over the top.

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Historical racism, particularly in, say, the Tudor era, is vastly overstated to make "us" feel better about the state of play of things today. The traditional understanding of different skin colours was pretty much just "you live somewhere sunny you have dark skin", and working class racism was essentially non-existent. It's a ruling class thing.


I'm 6'6 and almost all safety rails are things I can just fold over

Isometric Bacon posted:

Watching DS9 the height of that balcony rail wigs me out. It seriously looked like an OH&S nightmare where anyone stepping backwards not paying attention would trip over the top.

Perhaps they made it for the height of Jake and Nog to sit under in the pilot, not counting on Jake growing 12 feet tall in 3 months time.

The_Doctor posted:

Fellow tall person! My back hurts every time I do the washing up because our sink is just slightly too low for me.

piratepilates posted:

what do you think tng would have been like if tasha yar didn't leave the show early? I'm curious what her character development would have been like over the years. I wonder what worf would have done if they couldn't have him replace her as the security guy

Isometric Bacon posted:

Also whilst pointing out uncomfortable DS9 sets, props to the prop department for building a working turbolift but the violent shunt as it throws itself into action or suddenly stopping looks painful for its passengers.

Dysgenesis posted:

My children (who are small) know to use a step when at the sink to make it the correct height. So all you need to do is dig a hole in front of your sink. But remember to fill it in for the next person.

PerniciousKnid posted:

Don't fill it, just make a hatch door

Astroman posted:

That's one reason I disagree with former Doctor Who Showrunner Steven Moffat's philosophy about casting POCs in historical English settings. He does it to represent people, to make the past makeup of the country look more like the demographics of the country today. A world where black people and Asians are accepted neighbors, and people are surprisingly tolerant towards homosexuals, etc in Victorian London and Medieval villages.

Astroman posted:

It's a complex subject that goes to both extremes. Some people want to sanitize language and change the past to prevent offence, as if not learning about hate can cause people not to hate. Others feel that anything or anyone from the past that doesn't pass muster in current society must be completely disavowed. I am an American, and there is a growing idea that we need to throw out our founding fathers, like Washington and Jefferson, because they don't meet the ideals of today with their slaveowning and attitudes towards women. I'm not in favor of erasing them or demonizing them, nor am I in favor altering history to pretend they never existed. If the world of 200 years ago is hurtful, do we not discuss it? Pretend it was all horrible and history began in the 1960s? I think we need to constantly reexamine the past and take the good and bad and learn from both.

HorseLord posted:

The KKK, american nazi party etc are the truest american patriots in the sense that their values are the foundational ones of the country.

HorseLord posted:

England has never ever been a white monoculture. There was always "moors", going back to Roman times. Apartheid segregationist style of racism was never a thing here, beyond the efforts of certain extremists, which is why your men stationed here in WWII were so shocked and appalled to see us freely fraternize with black soldiers. While the 20th century saw the emergence of overtly fascist movements here, they've always been crushed, not by the state but by the people. The majority of the civil rights work that happened here was much more about trying to get grandma to remember that "coloured" isn't polite anymore, getting harmful stereotypes off the TV, rather than dismantling segregationism.


Those people were objectively terrible, it is not a new modern standard we're holding them to. The KKK, american nazi party etc are the truest american patriots in the sense that their values are the foundational ones of the country. Civil rights are a deviation from that, which is why the government itself spent so much effort attempting to crush it.

I think that it's very strange that you equate demonizing them with "not discussing" their flaws or erasing them, when by definition you need do remember them and discuss them in order for them to be demonized.

Other countries have no problem with denouncing the legacy they are founded on, and starting over. France is on it's 5th republic. Russia is on it's third, Germany it's fourth. Instead you elevate the skeletons in the closet to the level of a religion you practice in parallel with Christianity. Please, at least stop worshiping your constitution and write a new one that's actually relevant to 21st century society, it's loving weird.

I understand what motivates you. As an American you were brought up in an extremely nationalistic environment where your country is not only the most powerful, but also most benevolent, and that any harm it's done was a "mistake" rather than by design. Every classroom has a flag and you have to pledge yourself to it every day. Every football match starts with your brave airforce flying over as you put your hand on your heart. USA. USA. You've been told you're number one and you believe it. If America has a problem, and America is number one, then other countries must also have that problem! Because America is number one! Nobody beats America at anything!

So even though European countries emerged very differently and went through a very different and longer historical development, you still assume they have the same problems yours has. Because to do otherwise implies you're not number one at something.

HorseLord posted:

England has never ever been a white monoculture. There was always "moors", going back to Roman times. Apartheid segregationist style of racism was never a thing here, beyond the efforts of certain extremists, which is why your men stationed here in WWII were so shocked and appalled to see us freely fraternize with black soldiers. While the 20th century saw the emergence of overtly fascist movements here, they've always been crushed, not by the state but by the people. The majority of the civil rights work that happened here was much more about trying to get grandma to remember that "coloured" isn't polite anymore, getting harmful stereotypes off the TV, rather than dismantling segregationism.


Those people were objectively terrible, it is not a new modern standard we're holding them to. The KKK, american nazi party etc are the truest american patriots in the sense that their values are the foundational ones of the country. Civil rights are a deviation from that, which is why the government itself spent so much effort attempting to crush it.

I think that it's very strange that you equate demonizing them with "not discussing" their flaws or erasing them, when by definition you need do remember them and discuss them in order for them to be demonized.

Other countries have no problem with denouncing the legacy they are founded on, and starting over. France is on it's 5th republic. Russia is on it's third, Germany it's fourth. Instead you elevate the skeletons in the closet to the level of a religion you practice in parallel with Christianity. Please, at least stop worshiping your constitution and write a new one that's actually relevant to 21st century society, it's loving weird.

I understand what motivates you. As an American you were brought up in an extremely nationalistic environment where your country is not only the most powerful, but also most benevolent, and that any harm it's done was a "mistake" rather than by design. Every classroom has a flag and you have to pledge yourself to it every day. Every football match starts with your brave airforce flying over as you put your hand on your heart. USA. USA. You've been told you're number one and you believe it. If America has a problem, and America is number one, then other countries must also have that problem! Because America is number one! Nobody beats America at anything!

So even though European countries emerged very differently and went through a very different and longer historical development, you still assume they have the same problems yours has. Because to do otherwise implies you're not number one at something.

Son of Sam-I-Am posted:

The choicest bit of lmao